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Therapy for this or am I just a nasty, sensitive, dramatic person?

33 replies

TherapyGal · 19/10/2019 10:21

After a long time of wondering why I felt so uncomfortable, sad, confused and angry around my parents, mixed in with some great times too, I’ve finally decided to get therapy. I’m nervous about it because I don’t know if I even have anything worth talking about. The therapist has said for my first session (we had an informal session last week), to think about key things growing up that confused or hurt me. I’ve been doing this and I’m worried they are silly things that happen to everyone? I’ve listed them here for some perspective and harsh truths. It could be that my problems as an adult don’t relate to this at all.

  • no privacy, diary read aloud one evening as I begged my dad to stop
  • I was allergic to horses and every week was taken to stables so my younger sibling could ride. When my eyes started to stream and I couldn’t see, I was told I was making it up and trying to ruin things
  • wasn’t allowed certain foods or preferences, was never ever allowed to cook for myself, use washing machine or make any decisions at all like this. On the occasions I tried my mum would be hysterical saying I was making a mess or was going to break her appliances
  • constantly called a nightmare to bring up, this was said in front of my parents friends and other family members and in comparison to younger sibling
  • if I got upset I was called sensitive and dramatic, there was never ever opportunity to sit down and talk to either parent. They didn’t do talking about things.
  • at school I would be immaculate. One day my tights laddered on the way in (age 8) and I was told that was it now my teachers would think I was scruffy and my mum was embarrassed I was her daughter. There was so much pressure that I could never sleep as a child and everything was about achievement
  • called hitlers daughter repeatedly
  • smacked, dragged round the house, clumps of hair everywhere on a regular basis usually when I wouldn’t go to bed
  • age 18 going to the summer dance at school, my friend spilled water down her dress before we left and she laughed and said it would dry. A few days later my mum asked why I couldn’t be more like this friend and how nice it would be to have a daughter like that
  • when I had an eating disorder growing up, I had zero help. My parents were wealthy and spent thousands a month on all sorts of things to help with academics or new cars or holidays. I resent that they didn’t pay for me to see someone about my eating.
  • when my sibling began to play hockey nationally, I was left alone from 7am to 11pm every Saturday, between ages 14-17. One summer i didn’t see my family for a month because they were travelling with my sibling. I was upset about this and told that I should get some interests.
  • strangely as an adult my sibling is very defensive about my career v hers. I’ve actually become much more ‘successful’ from an outsider’s perspective. This has made me wonder what damage was done to her growing up too.
  • if there is ever any sort of family argument these days, I am told I have always been difficult and they were brilliant parents who gave me everything.

We’ve had lots of nice times so it is very hard sometimes to think about these things. But as I’ve got older I’ve noticed that friends and colleagues don’t seem to have an opinion of me like my parents did. So I wonder what is the real me? Who am I? I feel lost. I don’t think I am horrible or difficult or unreasonable. But if you asked my parents that’s exactly what they would say. Maybe I’m a narcissist for not recognising it in myself? I’m just lost.

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TherapyGal · 19/10/2019 10:42

Anyone? Sorry I know it’s long

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Interestedwoman · 19/10/2019 10:43

What you describe is abuse. A lot of it is, but it's most clear here:-

'- called hitlers daughter repeatedly

  • smacked, dragged round the house, clumps of hair everywhere on a regular basis usually when I wouldn’t go to bed'

That is physical and verbal abuse.

It doesn't have to have happened all the time to be abuse.
Other things you describe like the stable thing or being left in the house, are neglect. Not giving you emotional support, parents not being people you could turn to, for help, is emotional neglect.

Abuse and neglect are serious things.

Also, it doesn't matter whether all of what you experienced would be viewed as 'serious' or not by others, the effect has been serious and so it warrants therapy to improve your life. You also don't have to justify yourself anyway- have therapy if you want to try it.

Best wishes and please let us know how you get on xxx

TherapyGal · 19/10/2019 10:45

Thanks Interested.

It’s all so messy because I had everything as a child but felt so so alone, sad and scared most of the time. I wonder what sort of person I’d be now if I hadn’t had those feelings as a child.

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Trills · 19/10/2019 10:48

am I just a nasty, sensitive, dramatic person?

Thinking this about yourself is probably reason enough to get therapy.

You don't need to "need" or "deserve" therapy or be any degree of "bad enough" to benefit from it.

(your parents do sound pretty bad, but even if they didn't sound bad to us you'd still have plenty to talk about)

Interestedwoman · 19/10/2019 10:51

I'm not saying this to talk about me but as an example of how a seemingly small thing can be very traumatic. I experienced a lot of bullying and rejection and that has effected me, though I thought it wasn't even something I could call 'trauma' but it is.

Also, the thing that had the biggest effect on you mightn't be the most classically awful thing- I was more (consciously) traumatised as an adult by one of my cats dying than by sexual assault.

If the things that upset you the most aren't the most classically bad things, the therapist will roll with that. Some petty-sounding experiences were hurtful because of the context of what was happening in our lives at the time, or our past experiences.

Hope I've made sense and feel free to chat by PM at any time. x

Windmillwhirl · 19/10/2019 11:02

Op, I'm so sorry to read what you went through.

It sounds like there was definite emotional neglect.

Have a look at this link and see if anything resonates. And go to therapy.
drjonicewebb.com/the-3-most-tragic-childhood-emotional-neglect-symptoms-in-adults/

TherapyGal · 19/10/2019 11:23

Interested that’s really helpful thanks

The link also has described me completely

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Robin2323 · 19/10/2019 11:54

Sounds like you were the family scapegoat.

I hope you learn how move on from this with therapy.

BuffaloCauliflower · 19/10/2019 12:10

OP this is more than enough to justify therapy, you were abused and neglected, I’m so sorry you went through this. I really hope therapy will help you.

TherapyGal · 19/10/2019 13:10

I feel so sad around my family even when they are being nice it confuses me. I am constantly filled with stress and on edge. I hate it. I don’t feel like this around anyone else.

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TherapyGal · 19/10/2019 13:11

I have problems trusting people in relationships. I never assume they will cheat or anything like that, but I don’t trust anyone emotionally to be there and find it extremely difficult to ask for help or be vulnerable in any way

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HarryElephante · 19/10/2019 13:32

If you are looking for validation, don't come looking for it on the Internet.

Focus on healing as it sounds like you e been through a tough time.

But, ultimately, no one can answer the questions you posed in the thread title. If these are your truths, then who is a random stranger on the internet to disagree.

Be kind to yourself.

TherapyGal · 19/10/2019 13:35

I don’t know Harry. I’m just trying to work out if I’m unfairly blaming my childhood on my feelings now, or whether these things were unusual.

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lazylinguist · 19/10/2019 13:44

You were abused. None of that is the behaviour of normal, loving parents. It sounds truly awful. I doubt anybody could have a childhood like that and emerge without problems and relationship difficulties. It sounds as though you very much need and deserve therapy. I hope it helps you. Flowers

GrumpiestCat · 19/10/2019 13:48

I was told I was oversensitive all the time. I was just sensitive. You've taken on their descriptions of you and they aren't very nice descriptions. A lot of what you said sounds absolutely awful, and all of it unpleasant. You're not in the wrong to think they let you down. Good luck with the therapy. Incidentally positive self talk really can help you reframe how you think about yourself so try to get in the habit of presuming you're a decent nice person and think about all the good positive things you do and have done.

LaurieFairyCake · 19/10/2019 13:48

It's very clearly abuse and neglect. It couldn't be more clear. Your feelings are valid and I hope you get them heard in therapy Thanks (I'm a therapist)

Zippetydoodahzippetyay · 19/10/2019 13:52

Omg @TherapyGal I am so glad you have decided to go to therapy. What you endured as a child was most definitely abuse. I am not at all surprised that you developed an eating disorder in an environment like that. Your self-doubt is a direct result of the emotional abuse you suffered. You weren't allowed to have feelings or thoughts that differed from what your parents expected. You will probably find therapy long and draining at times but I think it will be marvellous for you. I hope you learn to trust yourself, validate yourself and nurture yourself. All the very best.

TherapyGal · 19/10/2019 13:53

How does it work when your childhood was also filled with nice birthday parties, support with academics, financial support, always there for you to watch you in a play or a sports day etc etc etc always well dressed.

I feel terrible for being angry with them. I was such an unhappy child and it makes me wonder if, as they say, I was a spoiled brat

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Yuccatree · 19/10/2019 14:18

Just because your parents did these things, it doesn't mean they respected your developing mind or you as a person.

It's far more to a child to provide them with emotional stability and support than financial support or to help aid their future. By denying you of what you needed they actually had the potential of hindering your future.

I also feel as though they did those things as a means of keeping up appearances and doing what they thought they should for their children e.g. the academics, attending plays, being well dressed etc.

It also begs the question of what their upbringings were like?

If they were also raised in wealthy, academic environments perhaps focus on emotional growth wasn't such a big thing for them also as children.

TherapyGal · 19/10/2019 14:21

Parents both had hugely neglectful childhoods, but in one case it was full of wealth and in the other case was the opposite. Neither had a good education.

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RedPoppiesAndSpots · 19/10/2019 14:28

My mouth fell open at the first point you made and continued to be so for the rest of your list. Individually one of those actions would not constitute abuse or neglect. Add them up and your parents seemed to behave like cunts. Regardless of the nice other shit - that list was horrible.

I am sorry you had to go through that.

Yes, you should get therapy to understand you did not deserve any of that treatment and that you deserve to heal yourself.

PlasticPatty · 19/10/2019 14:34

I have had loads of therapy, over a period of about ten years. But I am pretty much (feels like 'totally' but I don't want to overstate it!) free of my emotionally abusive childhood and I am happy.

You get started on that therapy, OP. Work on some mindfulness, too. They did those things. Those things were wrong and unjustifiable. It was unfair and cruel to do those things to you. But you can leave them behind and not experience the hurt any more (I'm not saying it will go away - your experiences are as they are - but how you feel them now will be different).

Good luck.

RandomMess · 19/10/2019 14:37

They were abusive and what an awful environment to grow up in now wonder you have struggled emotionally.

Yes yes yes to therapy!

Thanks
Starfish28 · 19/10/2019 14:38

Your parents sound abusive and neglectful. I’m very sorry about your childhood. Have you looked at this ongoing thread on mn www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/3677536-But-we-took-you-to-Stately-Homes-August-2019-onwards-thread

lazylinguist · 19/10/2019 16:13

None of the academic support or birthday parties cancel out abuse and neglect, OP. Your parents' childhoods may be the reason they behaved as they did, but it's not really an excuse. Like them, you had a neglectful childhood - but would you use that as an excuse to treat a child the way they treated you?