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I’m the problem, aren’t I?

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datingARGH · 20/09/2019 13:53

NC for this but I’m regular.

TLDR: guy I was seeing kept making mean and personal ‘jokes’, was non-committal about seeing me and didn’t reciprocate when I said nice things. My background of unhealthy relationships makes me unsure of whether IWBU to call him out.

Long version -
Background (I think this is relevant) I had a difficult relationship with my dad that included some emotional abuse and lack of support among other things. We are recently NC. It took me until adulthood to fully realise that his behaviour towards me growing up was not OK, and I believe his lack of support towards me led me to subconsciously try to fill that hole with unhealthy relationships. I am currently in the process of starting therapy to explore this further, which god knows I need!

Right, so, in the past, I’ve had a tendency to stay too long in unhealthy relationship situations because I think I felt that ending it meant admitting defeat and proving I wasn’t worthy of love. I dated a real arsehole a couple of years ago, and after that had a kind of epiphany about personal boundaries, my dad, and my own behaviour and decided I’d apply it when dating again.

I had a break from dating. Thought I was ready - but I don’t think I am. A guy I was seeing for a few weeks started off super nice, then he began making what he said were jokes but they’d be very cutting and personal (e.g telling me I’m not smart, teasing me that he didn’t really like me, continuing to do it even after I said I’d rather he wasn’t mean to me).

I then told him straight how I felt it was belittling and unpleasant and the conversation became him saying this felt too hard for the early stages when it was meant to be fun. Well yes, I agree, I don’t want to be having intense and serious conversations either, but if he upset me what was I meant to do, just bottle it up to ensure it stays fun? Or was I overreacting to his jokes and getting attached too quickly? In the past I’ve always been super anxious and pushed people away with that and I don’t know if I’m doing it again or if I was justified in explaining how he was making me feel. I reiterate, I know I need therapy!

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Inexperiencedchick · 20/09/2019 14:00

Well done for calling him out on it. No one has the right to bring you down and tell you “you are not smart” Is he himself a God’s gift with the golden brain?
You are actually stopped it at the right time.

I have walked out from my ex when he called me “stupid and cheap” because I wasn’t doing what he expected me to do. I flat out refused it.
Keep working on your self esteem and don’t allow anyone to bring you down.
💐 to you and have some 🍰

datingARGH · 20/09/2019 14:14

Thank you, that’s lovely of you. The thing is I think he is joking, I don’t think he means it, but even so, surely if I explained once that my sense of humour is not making mean digs, he shouldn’t keep doing it?

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Zaphodsotherhead · 20/09/2019 14:19

If someone is making 'jokes' but they are the only one laughing - then they aren't joking, are they? They are monologuing. And if someone asks them to stop 'joking' because they don't find it funny, but they keep on telling those 'jokes' then they think more of themselves than they do of the other person.

You were spot on to bin this guy off. Insulting someone is never funny.

FatArse123 · 20/09/2019 15:32

Interesting that you're only starting therapy, it sounds like you have a really good level of self awareness already. Who knows if your reaction to what he said was you overreacting to his jokes, what matters is that you don't like the way his jokes made you feel. My therapist once said that there's no such thing as a joke, and I do rather believe this. Yes there's being playful, but ultimately put downs are an expression of a person's opinion. Of course, all people are messy and paradoxical, but continuing after you told him it hurts is a red flag for me - he knows what he's doing. You've shown some self-respect here, you should be proud. Smile

Highandlow · 20/09/2019 15:34

You very much sound like me. Best of luck to you . You deserve much better . Hope you find a lovely guy.

datingARGH · 20/09/2019 16:14

Thanks FatArse (feel weird typing that haha) I guess I do have pretty good insight into myself now but it’s taken me a while to get there. I’m just at the point where I don’t know how to move on from here and stop dating becoming this absolutely terrifying and torturous thing which is generally how I find it!

Highandlow I’m sorry to hear you’ve had similar issues, out of interest how did you overcome them? Thanks for everyone’s support

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meccacos2 · 20/09/2019 17:59

Why be with someone who says mean things to you?

He’s showing you he isn’t isn’t interested.

When you pick him up on it and he doesn’t care, he’s telling you he isn’t interested.

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