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I hate my parents..how to move forward?

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threelittlebirdies · 16/09/2019 11:47

I am so confused as to what I do next and I'm frankly exhausted with the constant power battles when there shouldn't be any.

My parents are both extremely controlling, always have been and the relationship has been very strained over the years. However since having children it's reached new heights. They don't care about me they just want everything to be their way. Keeping up appearances that we're a big happy family.

Now after the recent clash they haven't contacted me for weeks when it's often daily, I'm relieved because I don't get drawn into speaking to them daily. It's literally all or nothing with them.

However now my eldest is 3, he has been asking about them, he misses them. I don't want to contact them because their most recent behaviour was very hurtful and this time it was too far because they made it clear they don't care about my dc, I don't want to go grovelling back because that's what they want. It's always been the way. We disagree, they silent treatment and I break because I want an easy life. But I'm past caring now. It's like a switch has gone, I have come to the realisation that they are nasty people and I don't want a close relationship with them.

I'm so worried with how this will affect my dc. It doesn't help that we live nearby so dc will ask when we're in the area why aren't we going to nanny and grandads. Sad

I also don't want to go no contact because it feels very dramatic and I think I'll find it more stressful that very low contact.

OP posts:
sleepynewmumxo · 16/09/2019 11:56

I have a similar relationship with my parents. My mum is very self absorbed. We all have to bend over backwards to please her, and keep the peace, or we get ignored. It's very stressful, and exhausting. She is also very jealous of any relationship my children have with my husbands family. It's hard work.

For the sake of your children, especially if they love being around them, you're going to have to put on your big girl pants and make the first contact. Offer an olive branch, and see if they would like to take eldest out or something, maybe something that doesn't involve you too much.

bombomboobah · 16/09/2019 11:58

I agree it is trickier when they live nearby, I would suggest gradually lowering contact and taking a 'grey rock' approach.
if they are giving you the silent treatment let them, they think it's a punishment but actually it's a gift, use it as an opportunity to redraw your boundaries, don't contact them.

bombomboobah · 16/09/2019 12:01

We all have to bend over backwards to please her to keep the peace or we get ignored
The solution is straightforward, don't please her don't bend over backwards this puts you in a win-win situation
she ignores you, she voluntarily removes herself from your life, she scores a home goal, this is what you want, let her do it!
You have all the power here, you just have to realise it.

Windydaysuponus · 16/09/2019 12:01

My dm was a bully. A very woe is me woman.
Went nc and she doesn't see my dc. If she is mentally abusive to you she is not a positive person to be around your dc ime.
Distract your dc with a trip somewhere else.
They don't really know dgps like you do.
Keep it that way.

bombomboobah · 16/09/2019 12:03

No no no no no
You do not 'put on your big girl pants and make the first contact' !!!!
What are you thinking of sleepy??
For the sake of the children???
children don't need manipulative toxic people in their lives, they need to be shown how to deal with these people and stop them poisoning everyone!!

roseunicornblower · 16/09/2019 12:03

Your child is young enough to eventually get use to them not being around. Don't use the excuse of having children to keep a relationship going if it causes your mental health to deteriorate! Distract your little one when he asks about them!

Drum2018 · 16/09/2019 12:08

Your dc will soon stop asking. Just say grandparents are busy. Don't go crawling back. If they make a move to contact you then you need to accept any contact on your terms from now on. Any more nastiness from them just cut them off if it makes your life easier. You are relieved now that you don't no have to speak to them daily - if you accept them back into your life you'll be back to square one, unless you call them out on their behaviour and tell them you are quite happy to cut all contact if that's what they want. But follow through if they start their crap again. You take control instead of letting them control you now.

bombomboobah · 16/09/2019 12:12

Start working to get everything on your terms, you do not have to accept daily contact you can have weekly contact monthly contact whatever you want
you're an adult, you are of equal standing to them, you do not have to obey them or be beholden to them

zafferana · 16/09/2019 12:14

Your DPs are extremely controlling, so why would you want them to have a close relationship with your DC? Your instincts are right OP to not go grovelling. Controlling people rely on others' people pleasing tendencies to exert that control, so stop playing the game. Don't call. Your DC is only 3 - he has no idea what you're protecting him from and you certainly don't have to say - but just say 'Not today' if he asks when he'll be seeing your DPs. Having DC is not a good reason to keep toxic DPs in your life - if anything it's an additional reason to keep them at arm's length. Do you want them controlling your DC too?

threelittlebirdies · 16/09/2019 12:14

Thanks all for your replies, they are so helpful.

DH is very much of the opinion that once our dc are older they will be fine with knowing that we aren't close or didn't see them because they are toxic. He is of the opinion that if his grandparents treated his mum appallingly he wouldn't want to be close to them and would be happy that the decision of very low contact was made.

You are right Rose, I probably shouldn't put them seeing their grandparents at the expense of my mental health.

It does affect me and make day to day life more stressful sometimes, which the dc will pick up on.

It just really hurts, I look at my dc and think how can they treat me like this. I'm that little person to them. I know that my MIL loves me more than my own mum and as much as I'm so happy she's in my life it almost hurts me more that the woman who gave birth to me doesn't give a shiny shit.

It feels like a cruel to be kind situation but I'm still so conflicted.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 16/09/2019 12:41

threelittlebirdies

Do have a look at and or post on the "well we took you to Stately Homes" thread on these Relationships pages.

A good rule of thumb here is that if the parents or relations are too toxic/difficult/abusive (and controlling behaviour is abusive behaviour) for you to deal with, its the same deal for your kids also. Do not subject your children at all to your abusive parents under any circumstances. They will simply use your kids, your most precious resource, to get back at you with.

Would you have tolerated this from a friend, no you would not have done. Your parents are no different.

Re your three year old you are the parent. You get to make these decisions without apology or excessive justification. You can assure your child that you are making a wise and loving decision for them as well as yourself. I am not going to script what you should say because you are the only one who knows your children, but you must convey that this isn't up for negotiation. This is NOT a decision that the child gets to make. Yes, children usually love their grandparents. Children are often quite indiscriminate in their love which is why they need parents to guide them. Not every person is safe to have around and this is a good time to teach that important life lesson. The more matter-of-fact you are, the more matter-of-fact your children will be. When we act hysterical, they will usually reflect our hysteria. If you act anxious, they will act anxious. If you appear unsure, they will push. Model the reaction and attitude you want your children to adopt.

If you have another set of grandparents in the picture then focus on them. It is rare that both sets of grandparents are nasty. Emphasize to your children how much we enjoy being around grandma and grandpa so-and-so (the decent and loving grandparents). Cultivate your children's relationship with the decent, loving grandparents. Teach your children to be grateful for the decent, loving grandparents. Gratitude is a highly effective antidote to loss. Focus them on what they have, not what they don't have. Model that attitude of gratitude.

You will find that the children will eventually stop mentioning the loss of the abusive grandparent if you are not bringing it up. If you are talking about your own parents in the hearing of your children then you are inviting them to keep talking about it, too. I can not over-emphasize the need for your explanation to a younger child to be calm, pragmatic, measured and short. Long explanations make you look defensive which will tend to peak the interest of the child and prompt him to push the issue. You can gauge what is appropriate information depending on the age of the child. If the child is older and has experienced or witnessed the grandparent's nastiness in action then you can say more.

Young children are not known for their long attention spans. This works in your favor. With younger children you have the advantage of distraction. It is easy enough to get the child's mind off onto another track. Every parent has done the distraction routine at one time or another. "Mommy, I want to see NastyGram today!" "Honey, we aren't going to see NastyGram today because we get to go to the park and eat ice cream." (Make up fun time on the spot if necessary for this distraction.) "Yay!!" says the child and off we go. Subject changed, kid distracted. In time, NastyGram will fade from memory. Any bonding that may have occurred will dissipate in the process of time.

Remember, you are the parent. You're older and therefore more experienced which is the point of being the parent. The child is dependent on your good sense and protective wisdom. You're smarter than your child; use that to your advantage (such as using the distraction method). You are the final authority. This is not a negotiable issue. Your son doesn't get to decide on this one because they lack the understanding, wisdom, experience and good sense that, hopefully, you have. So don't look like you're unsure or open to quibble. You'll undermine yourself if you look anything but firm and resolved on it. Use your advantages as parent to smooth the effects of the cut-off. Over time this will all quiet down. Kids tend to accept what is. It will happen more quickly if you follow the above advice.

Most of all, do not operate from a fearful mindset. Don't be afraid of your children's possible, or actual, reactions. Don't be afraid that you are depriving them of something important by cutting off a set of grandparents. You are only "depriving" them of bad things. Reassure yourself with that truth. Family is not everything. Blood is not binding. You are escaping the Mob Family. What should connect us is how we treat each other with love and respect. This is always a good lesson to teach our little ones. If any part of you is unsure of your decision then, for Pete's sake, don't show it. Your resoluteness will go a long way toward reassuring your children that you are acting in everyone's best interest. If your children know that you love them, they are going to feel reassured that this decision is also based in your love for them. They will find an added sense of security to know that you, as their parent, are willing to protect them even at the cost of your relationship with your own parent(s). Rather than being fearful, see the plentiful opportunities in this. You are protecting your children from someone whom you've experienced as being abusive; you are reassuring your children that you are in charge and are watchful for their best interests (creates deep sense of security); you can teach healthy family values which include that family doesn't get a pass for abusive behavior; you can strengthen and reinforce the healthy relationships in your extended family. Kids are less likely to feel like there is a void in their life if you fill it with good things.

Cutting off from your parents is a good thing. No need to act otherwise. Your children will sense it is a good thing by how you behave. Model how you want them to respond and it is likely they will imitate. Don't be afraid of their questions. Kids are amazingly resilient and well-equipped to handle truth. Parents are supposed to protect their progeny. If your child doesn't agree with how you go about that don't worry. They will often disagree with your decisions for their best interests. Nothing new there. It is your job as parent to make the tough decisions. If you know it is the right decision then proceed with confidence. Showing confidence is a quality of leadership. As a parent you are supposed to be a leader. Lead...and they will likely follow.

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