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Unfulfilled promise

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ghi30lkr · 09/09/2019 09:03

Not sure what to do anymore. I need space/quiet time in my life to be fully happy and functional. This means totally alone me-time at home, where I have this total silence, or the music I like to listen to, or whatever other conditions I need. To be away from everyone and everything. I have a full time Mon-Fri work and very social hobby couple of hours per week. So I really need a couple of hours per week my alone time as well. My partner however has nothing going on in his life except his full-time job during similar hours than mine and thus is always at home after work and during weekends. When we moved in together, I tried to adjust and deal with it. But the more time passed, the more difficult it was for me. I tried going walks alone or staying longer to work, but that does not help. I suggested him things to do alone outside, but he has not picked anything up. To be honest, I have told him from the beginning that I need space in relationship, he says OK, but then nothing happens. I finally started saying directly that I really need some alone time at home to be fully functional. It seemed he finally really understood it. He found a group activity he could like. But has now delayed joining the activity for a few months. Every month he says that he will start the next month.

I get that it is totally unfair for him to tell him to get out of the house, but my need to be alone is something I cannot cope without. I have suggested we are not compatible due to this and perhaps we should not be together, because I really do not want to make him uncomfortable. But he said that no, he wanted to stay together and that he would find a way to give me my time. Moreover, he often says he needs to be active and healthy as well, so a group activity with training aspect in it would benefit him. I have waited for months now, and this anticipation has kept me going. But now I get the feeling that it will not happen anytime soon.

I'm afraid to ask him the question whether he starts his activity or not. Because I'm not sure what to do when he says "no".

I have tried to adjust with it for a year now and while I have gotten more used to not having my own time, I still feel constant irritation inside myself. It also exhibits itself in my behavior towards him, when the need to be alone escalates - I am withdrawn and somewhat pouting and I cannot help it.

He is mostly a good man and it feels silly to break up over such thing. But I also feel silly that I just accept that my most important need will not be fulfilled. I also feel silly of even needing what I need, especially as I have already coped for a year and perhaps it gets better over time. Perhaps I'm most upset because of him promising me for months something and than not fulfilling his promise.

I just do not know how to handle it, to be honest. I must ask him, because just ignoring it does not help. But how to handle the answer, I really do not know.

OP posts:
ghi30lkr · 09/09/2019 10:40

Oysterbabe, this is exactly what I did several months ago, when I figured out that subtly directing him isn't working out. I was very blunt and direct and explained well and thoroughly what it means for me. This is when he said he understand and finds a solution and then he suggested he would start this social activity. And has now dragged his feet for months.

But thank you all again. I gained very valuable thoughts. It is good to know that there are other people like me who also need some space and I do not feel so silly anymore for needing it. I am not quite ready to end the relationship yet, I want to give it one more try. So I think I will try to speak to him again. Ask him about his plans, remind him bluntly about our previous conversations about my need and then suggest I find my own place to go sometimes. But to be really honest.. I am worried it would be the right thing to do to end it, but it scares and hurts me so much..

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Aussiebean · 09/09/2019 10:45

Speaking from someone who needs that time as well and in the trenches of young children. That alone time is invaluable.

If he is a man who WONT understand and support that, then no matter how sad it is now, in the moment, in a couple of years you will be a ball of stress, anxiety and resentment with no way of voicing your needs because he has already told you that your needs don’t matter.

LemonAddict · 09/09/2019 10:52

He sounds absolutely suffocating... hewont go out alone at weekends, he wants you to go out with him, he won’t take up a hobby that doesn’t involve you, he sulks if you want to stay indoors but stays with you - and you don’t get a minute to yourself in the house.

I feel like I can hardly breathe just reading your posts, I can’t imagine living with someone like that.

You are both fundamentally incompatible. He should go and find someone as needy as he is.

hellsbellsmelons · 09/09/2019 10:59

I have already cut back my hobby time to compromise his need to spend more time with me. I have cut back my time with my family and friends living rather far away from me
WTAF do women do this?
Never give up your hobbies for a man. Ever!!!
Why can't he go with you to visit family?
Never ever put a man before your friends.

He's not respecting your need for space.
You are allowing him to push your boundaries further and further out.
You are NOT compatible.
He is way too needy!
Please get your life and your space back.
No man is worth this angst!

hellsbellsmelons · 09/09/2019 11:04

Me going away for a night for example is not an option because he is already home alone when I am spending time in my social activity, so it would mean more alone time for him
Jeeeezzz!!!!!
Stop letting him dictate how you spend ALL of your time.
I feel suffocated just reading your posts.
Goodness knows how you cope living with this day in day out.
It won't change.
He may start this new hobby but it won't last long before he needs to be back in control over every minute of how you spend your leisure time!
I can't believe you cannot see what we can all see.
Step back.
Look in from the outside.
AND THEN..... RUN - THE HILLS ARE THAT WAY >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

RLEOM · 09/09/2019 11:08

You're not compatible. I have a friend like this and she has accepted she'll find it hard to live with someone as she likes her own peace. Me on the other hand, I'm happy spending my time with my partner, I love the closeness and am not fussed about getting me time.

BringMoreCoffee · 09/09/2019 11:14

Love isn't just something you feel, it's something you do. And it involves listening to and respecting the other person, and compromising to make them happier. Does he do this? That said, a healthy dose of allowance for being human is reasonable.

Are you really confident that, if he gave you this one evening a week, you would enjoy his company the rest of the time and not feel stifled? Or would it just allow you to keep your irritation in check better?

A bit of pop psychology
If you love something set it free.

Good luck with it anyway.

ghi30lkr · 09/09/2019 11:57

Replies coming in so quickly, I have missed some previously.

Reading and reading I'm actually starting to fully realize the incompatibility factor. Thinking about it, I get a bit scared that the PP who suggested that I might not be happy with him taking the hobby, rather it would just keep my irritation in check could be right.

I guess I am blinded by the fact that he has very good qualities, BUT someone suggested that these are just bare minimum. I haven't thought about it like this previously. He is the best man I have met, but then again it seems the other men have not even had the bare minimum qualities. I guess I have thought that if a man is smart, good at some things and is keeping his surroundings clean then he is a "superman". I have heard and read so many stories about men who cannot even do that, so I guess this is what makes me scared of leaving this relationship.

And I must admit, I really do feel so bad for him, because I want him to be happy and be loved and all that, but in this situation I just cannot provide him all that. If I live on his terms, then I am withdrawn at home and he is unhappy. If I push him to live on my terms, then he must do something he does not want and is unhappy. Basically I am being selfish for putting him through all this just because I'm scared of breaking up. But at the same time I do like many things about him and he claims how much he loves me and how he never wants to lose me, so it is difficult to see the harm I'm making by continuing the relationship. I thought that I'd just like to find a solution. But now, reading an thinking it through I see that perhaps it is all leading to break up eventually.

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Zaphodsotherhead · 09/09/2019 12:27

Me going away for a night for example is not an option because he is already home alone when I am spending time in my social activity, so it would mean more alone time for him

Unless he is a young dog, being left alone while you do other things should not be a problem for him. If it is, he needs to grow up a bit and learn to manage on his own. It sounds a little bit to me as though he is running this relationship by being clingy and needy and his neediness is just driving you away.

magicstar1 · 09/09/2019 12:50

I feel for you OP, as I'm exactly the same. Luckily my DH has a hobby which he loves and can take him out for most of a day, or the odd Saturday overnight and I love that space. If your partner is suffocating you, then he's not the one for you.

StrangeGoesWithEverything · 09/09/2019 14:23

It's easy to tell someone you love them and say you don't want to lose them. But the words, as nice as they are, have to be backed up with actions if they are to have substance. He understands what you are asking, and there are various ways he could give you that, but he doesn't want to. I think that tells you more than his words do.

It might be unreasonable to ask him to leave the house for a couple of hours a week but it isn't unreasonable to ask him to leave you alone for a while and not have him 'poke' you during that time. And it isn't unreasonable to ask him to visit his parents on his own, as then he doesn't have to spend his time alone while you are having your down time.

For what it's worth, I completely understand your need for some time alone in your home.

Bookworm4 · 09/09/2019 14:29

I understand your need for peace, he as an adult should be capable of leaving you alone if you want to be in your house and not be disturbed. He’s not a toddler, I’d go into my bedroom and lock the door if he insists on coming to door tell him bluntly to fuck off.

TheAlternativeTentacle · 09/09/2019 14:45

Is it your house?

Rented or otherwise?

I think in life you need to be in a relationship that you have a level of peace when you are together and no pulling or pushing when you are apart.

If you are unable to be in the house at the same time but also don't agree on times apart I can't see this working unless one of you stops doing things that make you happy.

ChristmasFluff · 09/09/2019 15:59

He sounds suffocating.

Having said that, I am like some others on this thread - I value my alone-time too much to ever give it up, and will never live with anyone again.

Mabelface · 09/09/2019 18:55

Just to add - I have a dp. He knows of my need for me time and that I need to decompress when I get home. I see him 3-4 times a week with only 2 overnights. Whilst he's like to see me more, he understands that this is enough for me, and I don't love him any less. In fact, we get the chance to miss each other and I can look forward to seeing him.

HypatiaCade · 09/09/2019 19:10

Ugh! What a limpet!!!! Stop listening to what he says, and look at what he does. He NEVER wants to do anything without you, and would prefer you not to do anything without him. You have cut back on seeing friends and family because of his 'need' to be with you. Bin him.

ILikePaperHats · 09/09/2019 23:40

Has he not got any friends? Or family? He sounds extremely introverted and needy. I would feel absolutely suffocated in this situation. You say he doesn't want to break up but that's the only thing stopping you isn't it? If he agreed you'd get rid of him like a shot

Aria999 · 11/09/2019 06:46

It doesn't sound as if you love him?

I also like being at home. I do go out but would be horrified if my partner required me to!

However he does sound clingy, he should be respecting your other suggestions to get what you need (separate corners of house / you going out).

Iris27 · 11/09/2019 07:12

It sounds like he doesn't give you a minute at home - he needs you to go with him to see family? its ridiculous and actually I think he's being quite controlling. It's suffocating and I think most people would be reacting the way you are.

I don't think you're being unreasonable at all asking for him to give you space, even asking him to leave the house for a while. You can't even relax in your own home. If he was more relaxed about not being with you constantly it might not have got to the point where you are asking him to go out of the house for a while. It's overbearing.

I don't think he's behaving like a normal adult here. He's the one with the issue not you. You shouldn't be cutting down your hobby time etc because he can't bear being without you.

He's slowly taking away your freedom OP.

GlasshouseStoneThrower · 11/09/2019 07:17

Do you have the option of turning a room in your house into a study where you can be alone and uninterrupted? That might work as a compromise.

To be honest, it does sound like there might be a compatibility issue here. You're fundamentally very different, and his needs are clashing with yours. It doesn't look like it's going to be easy for either of you to change even if the will is there.

CodenameVillanelle · 11/09/2019 07:19

You're incompatible. You like hobbies and need alone time at home. He likes being at home and being around you.
You could stay together but live separately, but you can't carry on living together.

jewel1968 · 11/09/2019 07:31

So I would do the thing where you leave him at home at get your alone time away from the home. If it bothers him so be it. It may make him come to the table and talk about your need for alone time and this time he might listen.

I am intrigued by this strong need you have to be alone and decompress and how others echo this. It seems to have a big impact if you can't accomplish it. I can sense your pain. I like the opposite. I present as an extrovert and draw energy from others (although too much can exhaust me) and seek out distraction. Are you an introvert?

humdrum21 · 11/09/2019 07:34

I have just got out of a relationship like this. The sense of freedom is so immense. Of course you shouldn't have to keep leaving your own house. It is so stifling and horrendous having someone trying to grasp every last part of you.
Obviously I don't know the entireties of your relationship but escaping this overwhelming 'love' showered on me has been the best thing I ever did. There is nothing appealing about being suffocated. I am loving planning my own time again.

Loopytiles · 11/09/2019 07:37

You’re labelling both your preferences as “needs”.

You don’t “need” to be alone at home for X hours a week. You would much prefer this to being alone in a room, or doing an individual activity out of the home.

He doesn’t “need” you there. He wants you there.

Agree with PPs that you’re incompatible and should split up, or at least live separately.

Whenaretheholidaysover · 11/09/2019 07:37

You have picked completely the wrong person to be a partner with and move in with. He is the opposite of what you want. Why didn’t you choose someone independent and busy and outgoing?