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Evidence of abuse but people still don't believe you

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raskolnikova · 03/09/2019 20:49

This might be long, so please bare with me. So nine months ago I had a baby, and there were some unpleasant incidents with her father, who I was with at the time, after that.

The most serious one was when she was about three weeks old, and on a heart monitor after almost being a victim of cot death. He went out to the pub and came back completely hammered. Things escalated, he punched a window frame, pulled my hair, threw my phone against the wall in a rage, I had bruises on my face and arm because of that night. The neighbours called the police, although I was blamed for them turning up. He later bought me a new phone, then took that back off me. I have pictures of the bruises.

A couple of weeks later, my parents came to visit. He took my keys off me, told me I had no right to be there, and if I wanted to be let back in I had to ask. So my parents turned up and I still had some bruising, and no keys or phone at that point.

There was also another incident when I felt intimidated and I left the flat in the middle of the night with the baby after calling the police, and then had to stay in a women's refuge for a week.

We are now far apart geographically, I try to be civil and message him about how the baby is and send him pictures. I was going to let him Skype her, but I have been so worn down by everything I don't want to. Sometimes he is civil, sometimes emotional, sometimes abusive. He is convinced I have been having sex with basically everyone, and this is encouraged by his rather unhinged friends, who say that I slept with them or that they know I was sleeping around, which are all lies. The other week I opened my messages to a long rant that included the message, 'you can't make any decisions except what cock to have today.' Nice. Confused

The other day he was ranting on again, I asked him to stop but he didn't, for some reason I can't block him on my laptop. So I sent a message to his mother, including an example of what he was saying to me. He was furious about this, blocked me and told me not to speak to him again.

Fine, but there were certain practical things that needed sorting out, like the Internet that he still uses in my name. So I messaged his sister, who had previously seemed reasonable, with what I thought was a straightforward message about this. Well, according to her, I 'have no empathy for anyone else', I'm 'deluded', I 'live in a fantasy world', whilst my ex is 'the kindest soul'. Apparently 'women like you are an insult to those who have really been abused' and one day I will 'get a reality check.' With regards to the women's shelter, I 'chose to go' (well yeah, how else would I get there? Confused). I sent a picture of the bruises and asked how they happened if I am a fantasist, but she just cryptically replied that she 'knows what happened when the police came.' Okay then.

So I have been wondering, how much proof do you need to have for people to believe you? Pictures of bruises, a broken phone, a stay in a refuge, crazy messages... but I'm the bad guy. I'm don't want his family to side with me and hate him or anything, but just to not make excuses for this kind of mental behaviour. (Although I won't be in contact with them now so it is a moot point I suppose) He doesn't even deny that these things happened, though obviously he has a different version of events to me.

I don't know anyone else who has experienced this in real life, so I have come here. Anyone else been through similar, only to be called a fantasist with no empathy? Because it hurts.

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Ronnie27 · 03/09/2019 21:20

You will never ever win against people like this. Just keep as far away from them physically and mentally as you can. You don’t need them to believe you, you need to move on with your life for the sake of your child. Messaging family etc is just poking the bear. I know it hurts and you want to be believed because you think it will make you feel better but the truth is that the only way you feel better is by not being in this headspace anymore and not caring what any of them say or think about you - better things will come when you leave all of this far behind you.

expatinspain · 03/09/2019 21:28

His family will always take his side, so don't even go there. Anything that's in your name cancel, you don't need to discuss anything with him. As for being civil, don't bother, don't send him pictures of your child, literally have no contact with him. I don't see why you even keep up this level of contact with him. Just cut him out of your life and he can go through the courts. With everything he's done and the evidence/police involvement if he sends abusive messages etc, you can get a non molestation order against him. You really are doing yourself no favours engaging with him at all.

Illstartexercisingtomorrow · 03/09/2019 21:43

You don’t need them to validate what you have been through.

Windydaysuponus · 03/09/2019 21:49

Remember his dsis was cut from the same cloth. And his dm gave birth to both of them.
Block them all.
He can contact you via a solicitor should he wish...

Aminuts23 · 03/09/2019 21:50

Stop engaging with him and his family. They are not ever going to acknowledge what he is. Just block and ignore all of them. Cancel the internet he uses and just get your own. Have no ties to him financially. If he wants a relationship with his child he’ll have to go through the proper channels. Just build your own life. Take time to recover. Put boundaries in place and stick to them or you’ll never be rid of him. I’m sorry but contacting his sister was a mistake. You must make a clean break from them all. He sounds dangerous to be around your child anyway. Keep both of you safe

Eckhart · 03/09/2019 21:56

Clean break, and stick to your boundaries. Keep the photos and any other proof you have of the abuse.

His family can believe whatever they want about you. It doesn't matter. YOU know the truth.

Are his family far away from you too?

raskolnikova · 03/09/2019 21:59

In hindsight yes contacting his sister was a mistake. I had done it previously and not had an issue so I thought it would be okay. We don't live in the same country as the father now, so he won't be around the baby. I see what you are all saying and I appreciate the responses, it can be difficult to think about these things objectively when you are in the middle of it sometimes.

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raskolnikova · 03/09/2019 22:00

And yes, his family are also far away.

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Justtryingtobehelpful · 03/09/2019 22:06

Read docdro.id/py03

It covers how abusive men manage to create allies of others against you. It also covers the blowing hot and cold.

It will be a revealing read for you.

Well done on getting free. I hope it stays that way!

Eckhart · 03/09/2019 22:29

Trying to convince them will only show them (and him) that you need their validation, but your power is in your silence, and in developing your ability to stand strong, without a thought to whether they support you or not.

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