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Did I do the right thing?

21 replies

GeekyGirl1982 · 27/08/2019 02:48

I'm a single mum with an 11 year old. Her Father left when she was 7.

Two years ago, I met someone and we really hit it off. This isn't really relevant, but to avoid pronoun confusion, this new partner is a woman. She moved in 9 months ago, having known my daughter from a few months before that. At the time they seemed to really hit it off.

However, over time my partner became less and less patient with my daughter, and started to shout at her with alarming frequency. When I tried to get my partner to calm this down, she said it was my daughter's fault because she doesn't behave and shouts at my partner. I tried to explain that children are very good at giving what they get, so the first step in calming things down needed to come from her. I showed her the 123 magic technique, to give her an alternative.

Not much changed, and it escalated to swearing at my daughter, frequently, and name calling and character devaluing. I said that this had to stop immediately, and the swearing became less often but not much else changed.

I begged and begged. Tried talking to my daughter about what was happening. At this point, partner seemed to be holding a lot of resentment towards my daughter, claiming she couldn't see why she needed to be polite to a child who wasn't polite to her. To be clear, it's not as though my daughter was continually disrespecting her, it was more that sometimes they'd get into a fight, and 11 year olds tend to fight dirty when it comes to a verbal slanging match. Sometimes these things were so bad, at the time it felt very necessary to tell partner this wasn't ok immediately and in front of my daughter.

At this point, we are arguing a lot (about this, and a general lack of appreciation for me from my partner). One night my daughter was being a bit of a monster at bedtime, and got into a strop where she nearly said she didn't want to say goodnight to Mummy. She caught herself at the last minute, and was just about to say goodnight to me, my partner shouted at her to go to bed without saying goodnight. My daughter was very upset and refusing to go to up the stairs, and so my partner pushed her, really hard, up the stairs. I hit the roof.

My behavior went a bit crazy at this point, lots of rage and telling my partner to leave me. We had one assessment appointment with relate, where they explained to partner that my daughter's bad behavior wasn't personally directed at her, it was more like my daughter had found an outlet to express anger with her. My partner then started telling me that this proved her point all a long - my daughter was being unfair on my partner, and I needed to stop it.

I started to find things unbearable, and the arguments between us really escalated. One evening, as we were about to go to bed, my partner said something really nasty to me. I challenged this and said this wasn't ok. My partner ignored me, reading her magazine. I pulled it from her hands, at which point she picked up my kindle and threw it. When she saw it wasn't broken, she picked it up and hurled it against the wall to make sure she broke it. At this point I started to feel that the physical behaviour towards my daughter may not be a one off mistake.

Fast forward a few weeks, and one disasterous holiday, I sat my partner down and said whilst she was often great with my daughter, there were some very worrying behaviours. I asked her to look at the NSPCC description for emotional abuse. She said that only 3 things applied - I said that's 3 too many. She then said that this was only someone else's opinion, not fact. I said I was worried and so, for now, could she make sure she was not alone in the house with my daughter, whilst we try and work things out. This was refused, and resulted in a blazing row.

After threatening to hit me (my daughter heard that) I said she needed to leave immediately, with enough stuff for two nights (or as much as she could pack in half an hour), or I would call the police, and she could come back when calmer to collect the rest of her things) She left, and has since tried to make me feel bad about throwing her out because she is sleeping in the car. I asked her to leave at 7pm and she has family within an hour and a half from here.

I am relieved, racked with guilt for putting my daughter through any of this, and desperately sad that I am loosing a partner who is at other times really kind and caring, great fun with my daughter, and gives me amazing birthdays.

I also feel terrible for throwing a partner of two years out like that.

Although the story is even longer than this, and of course there are many things I could have handled better. I'll give more background if needed.

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TanteRose · 27/08/2019 02:51

you did the right thing.

your poor poor daughter Sad

please focus on her

GeekyGirl1982 · 27/08/2019 03:00

You're right TanteRose, I've luckily got the whole week off work to spend with her, going swimming, having sleepovers and general girly time with Mummy. I'm being careful not to show her I'm upset (which is why I'm still up at this horrible time of day), because she thinks it's her fault that we've broken up. I'm going to end up graffiting on the walls of my house, "The way someone chooses to treat you is NOT your fault, and Mummy & broke up for lost of reasons, including 's choice of how up treat you"

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Hidingtonothing · 27/08/2019 03:03

Yes of course you did the right thing! That kind of behaviour (abuse, for the avoidance of doubt) will only ever get worse and you had to protect your DD. It sounds as though your ex's behaviour got slowly worse, which is a head fuck because it makes you question whether it's really 'that bad', it sort of creeps up on you rather than being immediately obvious. But you did see it, and now you've stopped it and you and DD are safe. Stop questioning it now, she put her hands on your DD and left you with no option, your ex is in a bed (or car) of her own making Flowers

MoaningMinnie1 · 27/08/2019 03:07

You did the right thing to throw her out, Geeky. Your daughter must come first and it sounds as though the chemistry between her and your partner was not good, certainly not good enough for living together.

Things will get better. Don't feel guilty, if the woman chooses to sleep in her car when she has relatives not far away, that's up to her. Not your fault.

GeekyGirl1982 · 27/08/2019 03:12

Thanks Hidingtonothing

In my stronger moments (not the pathetic "I miss my girlfriend and we could have sorted this out" ones), I'm really ashamed that it took me weeks to get to this point from that incident, even though I said at that time "you ever lay a finger on her again and I'll get the police involved" - I should never have allowed an opportunity for a second time.

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Hidingtonothing · 27/08/2019 03:43

I hope this doesn't sound harsh but you can't change what's done, you can learn from it and do things differently in the future but it's a waste of mental energy beating yourself up for something that's already done. Both you and DD will have some healing to do so let that be your focus now, that will help DD far more than you beating yourself up Flowers

GeekyGirl1982 · 27/08/2019 03:54

Not harsh at all. Thank you 😊

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BoopBoopedooBoo · 27/08/2019 05:04

You've done the right thing. Stick to it. Her behaviour escalated and would continue to escalate if you hadn't thrown her out. She will probably come back to get her things and grovel and try to win you back; don't fall for it. My ex did this to me. I was naive and believed him.

Lovelybaba · 27/08/2019 05:21

You have done the right thing
Sounds like your partner was abusive both physically and mentally and you may not have seen it to begin with.
Me and my siblings went through a simile thing with our step dad, no physical abuse, just control and manipulation. Mum didn't see it at first but it progressed towards her untill she finally had enough.
Your daughter will forgive you as she will see you have done the right thing.
Dont let your partner make you feel bad, always listen to your gut. It will be hard at first but if you push throw you'll find you and your daughter will be much happier

FuriousVexation · 27/08/2019 06:31

You have absolutely done the right thing.

With your DD I'd probably go down the route of "X was unkind to you and to me. I asked her to stop being unkind but she didn't, so it's best we go our separate ways."

At 11 she's old enough to understand this, and it's not a bio parent with whom she might identify.

I hope you both have a lovely week of fun and sunshine! and your ex has a shitty week of humidity and sweat

Ilikethisone · 27/08/2019 06:39

I have a friend in a very similar position. Except she temporarily left the property.

She feels that, as it's her first same sex relationship, she out up with more than she would if it was man. She believes somewhere in her head, the abuse to her and her children wasnt as bad because it was a woman shoving. Which in some ways makes sense.

I can only tell you what I told her. You cant change the past or the mistakes you made, but you can move forward and not keep making the same mistakes. Abuse is abuse. Doesnt matter who it's coming from. It will still cause her and her children damage.

Good luck op, you did the right thing.

Whathappensinvegas · 27/08/2019 06:50

Do you have done the right thing. I’m jealous of your decisiveness tbh.

category12 · 27/08/2019 07:00

You did the right thing. Should have done it sooner, but it's hard to do.

ImogenTubbs · 27/08/2019 07:18

You did the right thing! Her treatment of your daughter, and increasingly of you, sound completely out of order, and, as you say, crossing the boundary into abuse. Glad you have some time with your daughter. Stay strong!

Vasya · 27/08/2019 07:43

You've done the right thing.

I think it would be ok for you to tell your daughter that you feel guilty that you didn't act sooner. Don't try to make excuses, but I think she's old enough to understand that you recognise you should have ended the relationship long ago, and that things have been very hard for your daughter in the meantime. I think it would help her understand if you acknowledged how it has been for her, and reassured her that she's your priority and that you will always look out for her.

Kids are very resilient, and she will hopefully now thrive in a calmer home environment.

I hope you're ok. It's very hard to end an abusive relationship, so keep reassuring yourself that this is a new start for you and your daughter Thanks

GeekyGirl1982 · 27/08/2019 12:35

Thanks to every single person who posted on here. I was so unsure of what I had done - even expected my therapist would tell me off (nicely) for dumping someone out onto the streets after telling them we'd try to fix things and get back to where we were before, that step-parenting is hard and I was being too demanding. I think this will sound horrific to someone who has never been through this, but the relationship itself has you second guessing yourself the entire time, so you never really know what side is up when you are in the thick of it.

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RRJR · 27/08/2019 12:49

I don’t think you did the right thing

The right thing would’ve been getting rid of this vile woman a hell of a lot sooner than you did! Instead you allowed her to continue abusing your child. You played a part and you need to take responsibility for that

If this woman had been a man your replies would’ve been very different

Sorry, you failed to protect your daughter. This woman verbally abused her and physically abused her too and all you did was have words/slanging matches? Hmm

GeekyGirl1982 · 27/08/2019 12:58

I do think you could be right - what I didn't say is that there were also some really beautiful moments of them appearing to bond, playing together, hugging and saying they loved eachother, and my partner did try to change her behaviour, saying it was because she didn't know how to parent and that I needed to help her. Wrong wrong wrong at the time and so clearly wrong in hindsight.

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Batcrazymum3 · 27/08/2019 13:05

I agree with RRJR! You should have got rid as soon as she put her hand on your daughter. I would be pressing charges, not feeling sorry for her because she needs to sleep in her car.
I’m sorry you are feeling down about this but think how your daughter is feeling though all this, she can’t feel save in her home because her mum witnessed someone physically attack her and still allowed her to live in her home.

Keep her away from your ddaughter for good.

hellsbellsmelons · 27/08/2019 13:21

I should never have allowed an opportunity for a second time.
YOU wrote that. So of course you have done the right thing.
It took longer than it should have but you got there in the end.
Keep reassuring your DD that none of this is her fault.
Stay strong.
Focus on your DD and do not get into another relationship for a while.
You let her over step a lot of boundaries.
Work on those before allowing anyone else into your lives.

tirednhungry247 · 27/08/2019 13:32

Good mamma.
Good job 👍🏼
Your girl comes first

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