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Why does being nice = I owe them more?

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Shutupseaguls · 25/08/2019 06:54

I've name changed for this one as it may be outing.

I am not good at reading social situations and honestly never feel attraction to anyone so probably don't notice signs (a family member once told me someone could be standing holding a sign saying they fancied me and I wouldn't even notice).

Anyway back story I have had two relationships in my life and the second was for a long time. He was a longterm friend and offered help when I broke up with my first partner. I was a single mom of one and he used to come and hang round we would go out for days etc then he started making me feel bad like I owed him more etc. He ground me down with all the "I can't believe your stringing me along" but then turn back to being nice. I am a people pleaser which I know isn't a good thing and eventually I just gave in. It sounds so stupid looking back but he had a way of making me give in and we had 2 more children. I swear if I hadn't been sterilised (which really pissed him off) I would still be having them. He also never took no for an answer and isolated me from the world until I got the strength to get a job and finally left.

I still feel an idiot for putting up with it all I don't know why I did. He did used to use the kids to stop me leaving and it now turns out he is abusive to them too so I now parent completely on my own.

Back to now I'm 2yrs free happily doing very un exciting things and just being nice to people trying to make friends as I lost so many. There is a guy who works at my dc school who I talk to every day about school stuff at drop off and pick up. His dc also attend a group with mine and as they don't drive I give the dcs lifts if needs be. I give other people's kids lifts too if they need help so not just his.

Over the holidays we be went to the park and they were there kids played happily and we had a chat. Before we left he said "we are coming here again next week pop down if your about so the kids can play" turned out that day we were free so went there kids played again. Then I start getting texts asking how I am so I just reply fine you. Nothing interesting and they suddenly turn to him telling me he wants someone to love him and his kids and want to go out I said no I'm happy as I am. He says I guess you just want to be "friends" then you really shouldn't mess with people like this.

It's completely thrown me and made me feel sick as it feels exactly like my last relationship. I don't know what I've done wrong as I was just acting how I would with anyone and now school is just going to be weird.

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RadishesAndLentils · 25/08/2019 13:03

it's THEIR problem and they have created notions such the "tease" and putting the blame on the woman they fancy in an unrequited way

God, this. Like it's YOUR fault that they fancy you.

It's so not you, OP, it's him.

sprouts21 · 25/08/2019 13:14

I agree with a pp who said try to make friends with women. Most men don't want to be friends with women, they want sex.

Shutupseaguls · 25/08/2019 15:55

Thanks everyone for making me feel better. I'm not much of a looker so don't tend to have this problem very often and most people do think I'm gay as I dress in jeans and T-shirts and have a short hair cut.

I am one of those chat to anyone types though.

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AMAM8916 · 25/08/2019 17:17

Hi. Would you say that you're quite attractive? It doesn't really make much of a difference as men shouldn't be randomly hitting on women like that but if you're quite attractive, maybe men feel drawn to you?

If that's the case, I'm sure there's a few ways in which you can put a stop to most of these men thinking you'll take them on romantically just because you've made conversation with them. The first would be to drop into conversation that you're really happy being on your own! Or to say something like 'it's nice to make a parent friend' and put elaboration on the friend part.

Some men honestly think that if a female who they find attractive speaks more than 5 words to them must fancy them back.. idiots

DPotter · 25/08/2019 17:32

Skim read an article a while back with the headline "some men interpret women behaving politely as flirting" or something similar.

Rang a bell with me over a few situations in the past, which got a bit awkward when the guy clearly though there was more going on from me than I did.

Will try and find the article

DPotter · 25/08/2019 17:43

Actually I think it was this twitter comment.
twitter.com/roemcdermott/status/1150547465499795463?lang=en

Looks like there is s lot of academic research on this are as well.

NabooThatsWho · 25/08/2019 17:46

Some men think that if a woman is politely friendly to them, the woman fancies them.
Some sadly don’t seem to be able to have any kind of emotional connection with women without expecting sex or a relationship.

I fucking hate the term ‘friend-zoning’, usually said by a male describing a female who was friendly to him, but didn’t give him the sex or relationship he felt entitled to.

We owe men NOTHING.

Shutupseaguls · 25/08/2019 20:22

@AMAM8916 I'm far from it I look pretty mumsy or butch. You know the type who blokes think they are doing a favour as they won't get anyone else.

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Shutupseaguls · 25/08/2019 20:23

As for the friend zone I had a go at my DD for spouting that rubbish the other day and explained why it's wrong and that no one owes anyone anything.

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user1479305498 · 25/08/2019 21:59

I’ve found you can be friends with men but it usually comes from getting to know them well be it work or friends of friends you meet a few times in mixed company etc, if it someone who tries to chat when you don’t know them well , they usually have a motive.

Shutupseaguls · 26/08/2019 17:04

Haha gets better just got another text asking if I knew anyone who was single and would be interested. Talk about making a girl feel special!!

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Cbawy · 26/08/2019 19:28
Shock

He's such a walking penis!

Qcng · 26/08/2019 20:06

Wow!

I'd be tempted to reply "your mum" Grin
Dick head.

Shutupseaguls · 26/08/2019 20:13

Haha good one. I haven't even bothered responding. Was tempted to say I don't dislike anyone enough for that.

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