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Thank you to mumsnet and the relationship board

33 replies

Pasteldenata · 23/08/2019 08:37

I just want to say a quick thank you this morning to everyone who has posted on these boards over the past few years.

I started looking at this stuff about 5 years ago, and really think that is when I first realised there was something really wrong with my marriage.

I bought the Lundy Bancroft book after seeing it recommended on here. It was then I decided to end it. Although it took 18 months for him to move out - he never hit me but his behaviour became so much worse and the aggression was more and more on the surface.

When I’d been reading these pages, I was fascinated by the posts about “healthy relationships”. Reading about men who came home from work and helped bath the children, who didn’t shout and swear at their wives, who treated it like an equal partnership and not as if women were there to serve them.

I’d never seen a relationship like that growing up and all my relationships (I realise with hindsight!) have been abusive.

When my ex used to rage at me “I’m better than 90% of men in this town” (and his friends are misogynistic wankers as well), I felt some kind of quiet confidence, knowing that there was a whole big world out there, where men did NOT behave like him.

Three years later, the divorce is still not through and I have seen a side to him that is so much worse than I could ever have imagined. That lies he tells (often to my face , about me!) leave me shaking sometimes because it is just so hard to get my head round.

He has made my life as difficult as possible, both by hiding finances and by stopping /changing contact time - because he does not want me to have time alone, we have three DC and really think his aim is to “break” me psychologically.

It won’t happen. I now have a caseworker from a domestic abuse charity (though it took me a LONG time to accept the word abuse as it thought it wasn’t “bad enough). He will not get custody of the children (which is just a threat anyway) and I will be more free of him at some point when the legal stuff is sorted.

There are still days when I feel like giving up as it feels like I am living in a psychological war zone no-one else can see. I am trying the “grey rock” approach, and, to be honest, it seems to be making him worse as he is trying more to get a reaction.

But it will be okay. I have real friends now, I have achieved a lot (after being told for years I couldn’t cope without him 😂) and I see him for the weak man he is.

But I would never have seen or accepted how bad it really was, without reading what women here had written.

People can say there is too much “LTB”
on here, but I needed to read posts on other women’s stories, and those responses, and still do. He made me think that his reality was correct and mine was wrong. Reading posts here helped to counteract that.

So, thank you Flowers

OP posts:
MoviesT · 23/08/2019 08:40

Very glad for you OP. Three cheers for good old mumsnet!

stayathomegardener · 23/08/2019 08:45
Thanks
slowco4ch · 23/08/2019 08:49

So happy for you, it has been a long road but the destination is in sight! Well done you. Your children will thank you most of all...even if it is only later in life. Star

JamesBondFire · 23/08/2019 08:50

This is so good to read! Well done for getting rid.

I'm in a healthy relationship now but I often wish I'd found MN sooner so I didn't waste so much time with my abusive ex. He used to tell me the same things about being one of the better guys and how lucky I was that someone would 'care' so much about me Hmm!

Dappledsunlight · 23/08/2019 08:58

Oh, fantastic to read about your positive story, OP! Wishing you every happiness for the next stage on your journey of self fulfilment. So glad that Mumsnet gave you the courage to leave what sounds like a terrible situation.

SomeAfternoonDelight · 23/08/2019 09:12

Good for you OP X

Onabusgoingnowhere · 23/08/2019 09:14

Thank you for this post. Just what I needed to read while having a wobble about ending things.

I am also fascinated when I read how kind & just plain considerate men can actually be! It’s completely alien to me. To give you an example, a lovely chap at work once offered to peel a satsuma so I didn’t get the smell all over my hands & I almost cried 😂

My wobble is because he’s acting so hurt & sad (two nights ago he was shouting at me & telling me things hadn’t been done/said by me that definitely had!). Mumsnet has taught me that the wounded victim behaviour I’m being presented with now is all part of the abuse cycle & not to get drawn back in.

So, yes, thanks Mumsnet & thanks for your post OP!

PicsInRed · 23/08/2019 09:20

Well done OP and welcome to the other side.
Flowers

Tongo · 23/08/2019 09:53

Good for you for getting out

Zaphodsotherhead · 23/08/2019 09:58

I grew up with my parents who had a very equal and sharing marriage. Both worked, both did the housework, both cared for me and my sibling. So it simply never occurred to me that there were relationships where the men refused to wash up or hoover or care for the children, until i found myself in one (I was a SAHM, up until the point my second child was born he'd been an equal parent).

I think that's the value of this board (and Mumsnet). It shows us the variety of expectations and relationships that exist, and helps us realise that sometimes we are not the 'only person who thinks it's wrong', as we can be convinced by partners who really don't want to try (or genuinely think they are right that a woman's place is as a subservient partner).

AnneKipanki · 23/08/2019 10:02

Mumsnet is amazing . Good for you @Pasteldenata .

RosaWaiting · 23/08/2019 10:04

I’m so glad you got out OP Flowers

bluetue · 23/08/2019 10:05

Well done OP

The relationships board is very sobering indeed

Apileofballyhoo · 23/08/2019 10:05

I've learned so much from the other women all over this board. I'm glad things are working out for you, OP.

Miniloso · 23/08/2019 10:07

Nice post OP 💐

If it wasn’t for Mumsnet I would still be in an abusive relationship too. I had no idea that I was until I found it.

IChangedMyNameForThisQ · 23/08/2019 10:17

Another big up here. It's thanks to the collective wisdom and experience of MNetters (mainly on this forum) that has helped me understand and process 17 years of hell from a narcissistic, controlling and batshit crazy (she's won the award a few times when I've detailed some of her stunts) MiL.

Just wanted to say that. I don't often enough.

Oh, and I'm a blokey type. Occasionally people ask "what's a bloke doing on Mumsnet ?". But good advice is good advice.

brassbrass · 23/08/2019 10:25

MN can be bonkers sometimes but there are amazing threads of support for people who may have no other outlet in real life. Wishing you all the best OP Flowers

Shoxfordian · 23/08/2019 10:27

Good to hear you're out of that relationship op
Stay strong Flowers

MargoLovebutter · 23/08/2019 10:30

Well done OP. I've been on and off these boards for 18 years and whilst it is sometimes bonkers, I have genuinely benefited from input and advice from MNers too.

Stay strong - you'll get there in the end. I did - happily divorced for 14 years now!

hellsbellsmelons · 23/08/2019 10:30

Well done OP.
So pleased you are out of it.
Keep up with the grey rock.
It's normal that they rebel at first, but if you stick to it rigidly he will get bored eventually and that is when it works.
Get all the professional support you can and good luck.
Wine here's to your new life. It won't be smooth sailing as you were with a controlling abuser, but it will improve.
It all takes time.
Freedom OP. You deserve it.

IncrediblySadToo · 23/08/2019 10:34

🌷well done getting out!

I’m glad the board helped you to see what he was really like and that there’s was a better life out there for you and congratulations on finding the strength to use what you learnt!

There’s nowhere like MN - it’s amazing when the chips are down! Bonkers & frustrating these days too, but still ‘worth it’ for the ‘good bits!

ChiaraRimini · 23/08/2019 10:57

+1 thanks from me.
I joined MN in 2010 when I was pregnant with DC3 for the pregnancy and birth boards.
After the baby was born things went downhill and I came to the relationships board in 2012 after a row with my husband which proved to be the turning point for me.
I read loads of threads about EA and coercive control and realised my husband was highly manipulative and controlling. I was terrified of getting divorced and still loved him. I tried to get him to work on the marriage but he wasn't willing or able to change and after several more ups and downs we split at the end of 2016. Life is stull hard work as a single parent of 3 but I am a calmer, happier person now that I am no longer tiptoeing around him, I can organise my life how I like and it's much less stressful.

MrsTishellsNeckBrace · 23/08/2019 11:05
Flowers
doodleygirl · 23/08/2019 11:10

Well done OP, I think you now have a fabulous future ahead of you Flowers

WoManAdultFEmale · 23/08/2019 12:57

Thanks for sharing, OP.

This board also helped me to realise I was being abused. Abuse which escalated gradually over the years and wore me down, which is why it never seemed "bad enough", until the day ex punched me in the face.

Even after all the counselling I received, intervention from SS and Dc's school, I stayed. Until he punched me. One punch can kill, emotional abuse kills you slowly.

The main thing is I left. The BEST and most liberating decision of my life, regardless of other uncertainties leaving gave rise to.

Flowers