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So confused but actually not

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Onabusgoingnowhere · 19/08/2019 07:15

Sorry for ambiguous title but I’ve name changed as have posted various things over the past year questioning if DH has been emotionally abusive/manipulative. Think silent treatment, angry outbursts, minor name calling, storming off without saying where - even on holiday. Joint counselling wasn’t helpful & led to his own counselling which just seemed to validate his reactions (his childhood had made him feel vulnerable etc). I’m now having my own counselling which he doesn’t know about which has been helpful. My therapist wouldn’t say if she thought he was abusive but did say that in a healthy relationship that word wouldn’t enter your head.

Anyway, after a mixed holiday (you may remember my post about him being really affectionate for the first few days then saying I wasn’t reciprocating enough at which point it all stopped), he said he could handle things like me going in the spare bedroom a couple of nights a week to escape his snoring (another issue but I set an alarm at 5.30 on those days so we are in the same bed to wake up), if there was affection outside of that. I suggested to my therapist that I try to make more effort to be affectionate but put sex on the back burner to build on other things for now). She thought that was an emotionally mature proposal.

It’s been going ok for the past few days although it felt weird to start with. But if we are affectionate in bed after a minute or so he’s up my top which puts me on edge. I have not said anything. After a good weekend when we were close & happy I thought, he’s put an arm over me in bed this morning (crack of dawn but there you go), I’ve done the same but The next minute he’s leapt out of bed, slammed the door, swearing under his breath. Says I’m being a block of ice & he can’t keep up with my moods.

I’m so confused but there’s a niggling voice wondering if this is all part of manipulation- we got close so he’s moving the goalposts re temporary ban on sex which he originally agreed on.

Please somebody tell me what you think.

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HollowTalk · 19/08/2019 11:05

Leave him now and have a happy home. You can't live like that - you must be a bag of nerves.

Jaffacakesaremyfave · 19/08/2019 11:13

Dont feel ridiculous, it is rape. There are so many myths about rape only being perpetrated by men you dont know hiding in bushes. In actual fact, the vast majority of rapes are by people we know and often trust and rape by coercion is no less serious or psychologically damaging. You have likely been gaslit by your husband into thinking your feelings dont matter, you make a big deal from nothing etc etc but this is NOT true. Your feelings DO matter and you have a right to be happy.

I'm so glad to hear you are finally going to end things. Your children want you to be happy over and above anything else (I know this from the flip side as my dad is a narc and I'm endlessly frustrated and sad that my mother wont leave him). Yes it is going to be hard at first, but you are an extremely strong woman to cope with all that has been thrown at you by this man. You are a survivor of abuse so please dont feel like your story isn't as bad as others and let it put you off doing the freedom programme. My exH was also physically violent and I can tell you first hand that it was the psychological stuff that was the most damaging. I also felt like my story wasnt as bad as others even though the abuse was horrendous so it is a common way for victims to feel (mainly due to gaslighting).

There are some excellent resources on you tube which you could watch in the meantime before your next session. Lisa Romano is another really good one on healing and codependency. The more you learn about narcissism, the more prepared you can be for what you are up against and I found it so validating to know it wasnt all in my head like me ex wanted me to believe.

Just incase you ever start to doubt he is one, watch this video

Jaffacakesaremyfave · 19/08/2019 11:25

Thankyou. EMDR sounds abit woo but apparently it works and I'll give anything a try after spending years thinking i had anxiety/depression due to genetics, when actually it was PTSD all along from my childhood and marraige.

Also, please teach your DD's about narcissistic abuse. Children with a narcissistic parent are much more likely to marry a narc themselves. Both me and my sister married narcs and I'm in no doubt it is because of witnessing my mother being abused my my dad. He never laid a finger on her but his selfishness, entitlement, criticism and rages left us both horrendously codependent.

Luckily (after a string of abusive relationships after leaving exH) I have finally gotten to the place where I understand it all. My Dsis on the other hand is hopelessly lost to codependency and I fear will never get it. She's jumped from one abusive relationship to another and i can no longer be around her as i find it too painful.

I'll be teaching my DC about this when they are abit older as toxic people are everywhere and i think it's a life skill to learn how to spot them and protect yourself.

Onabusgoingnowhere · 19/08/2019 13:59

Thanks Jaffa. I constantly tell my DDs if he’s displaying bad behaviour that it’s not acceptable etc but I guess by not leaving I’m implicitly saying it is.

It’s strange but now I’m coming to the realisation that calling him out as a narc isn’t me over analysing I suddenly feel absolutely drained. I know I’m a strong person & I have been up until now. I need to dig deep & get that back. Going to give myself a bit of tlc this afternoon & also watch some stuff on you tube. Thanks again.

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Jaffacakesaremyfave · 19/08/2019 14:27

Look up adrenal fatigue and narcissism. It's a real thing!!!

Yes, lots of self care is so important right now and part of that is refusing to be treated any less than how you would treat another human being.

You are showing your DC that strength by leaving and they will be very proud of you xx

Jaffacakesaremyfave · 19/08/2019 14:32

And sadly yes, if you stay then you become an enabler. Children learn by actions not just words and it creates cognitive dissonance in them because they know your partners behaviour is not OK but by staying you are saying it is. It's what causes codependents to be unable to recognise abuse when it is right under our noses and stops is from trusting our instincts when we know something is not right.

Lisa Romano is great for learning more about this and she talks alot about parenting which I have found so useful.

It's never too late to break the abuse cycle!

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