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Worried about my mum - morbidly obese, addicted to food?

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worriedaboutray · 16/08/2019 15:34

My mum is 54 and has been overweight since before I was born. She slimmed down to a 12/normal BMI for her wedding day, then her weight gradually crept up. She has been around 21 stone for most of my life, occasionally losing a stone or two via Weight Watchers but then swiftly returning to the 20s.

As background, I'm still at university so visit in the holidays, and therefore spend enough time with her to see this play out (time which I really treasure; I love her and she's a fantastic mum).

She has had one hip replaced due to severe osteoarthritis. The NHS wouldn't do it due to risk and she had to go private. The other one needs doing, and both knees, and even the private provider won't touch her now until she loses weight. She's got a BMI of 52.

She had two alcoholic parents, one has now died, and I see a real pattern in her food consumption that reflects their addictive behaviours. She does not see it, and I have never broached this.

Forgive the inappropriate analogy, but her weight has long been 'the elephant in the room' in our family for as long as I can remember. Nobody mentions it. She occasionally describes herself as fat, and we brush over it awkwardly. As kids, she occasionally took us to theme parks or fairs and she was never able to ride them. She got an extra seat on the plane last time we flew anywhere as a family.

She is now at a point where, due to her size and arthritis, she gets out of breath walking up the stairs in the house, even walking slowly. She does no exercise and brushes it off as being due to "age", but it is because she can't do it. She could walk to the end of our road but would be out of breath and would walk incredibly slowly. She thinks she has arthritis because her father had arthritis (in his 70s and after doing hard manual labour all his life).

The parallels to alcoholism, from my perspective, are as follows:

  • Secret eating - waits until we are in bed and then eats, waits until I'm in another room and then eats (but I can hear it), goes to McDonald''s on the way home and then hides the rubbish.
  • Stores food that is "hers" in a cupboard. I recognise that some people keep a stash of chocolate etc. but she has four different tins containing various biscuits, a large tin of raisins (family sized biscuit tin), about six boxes of crackers, ten tins of rice pudding, ten tins of custard, and a shelf in the fridge that is hers (mainly full of soft cheese and yoghurts made with cream). There is no chocolate because chocolate is consumed the moment it is bought. If anyone touches her stash, she gets very angry, so we don't go near it.
  • We recently went to a craft workshop and she spied the cake on the side that was for the break. An hour in, she asked if we could have cake now and got her piece. No one else was ready yet because it was an hour after breakfast, and it was slightly embarrassing that she asked.
  • Eats more or less every hour, or says she will feel sick/dizzy/have low blood sugar.
  • Eats very large portions, e.g. soup but with 2/3 of a French baguette covered in cream cheese.
  • Often says "I wasn't going to eat cake today" after eating cake, or "I was being good" and then eats something.
  • Asks me to walk to the shop to pick up chocolate for her, which I find really difficult and always want to refuse to do, but I don't want to hurt her feelings.
  • My dad brings home chocolate most nights, e.g. a family packet of Minstrels or Maltesers. He puts his in a cupboard and eats it gradually, mum eats the packet straight away and then goes in her cupboard for biscuits.

A good example is that we went out as a family, had a three course lunch, and went to browse a gallery. Mum obviously couldn't walk, so took herself off to sit in the cafe, and when we came to see her she had drunk a hot chocolate and was eating a sandwich. We ate at 2 and this was at 4. My brother commented that we had only just eaten, and she said "yes, this is my dinner" but when we got home she ate a second dinner.

  • If I eat anything at all, she asks "ooh what is that? ooh yum maybe I should have that". She can't not remark on whatever everyone is eating, and is openly delighted by the presence of food.
  • Looks forward to eating and imagines her meals out loud to me constantly, usually just after eating the previous meal.
  • Food shops almost every day, accumulating healthier items that are inevitably ignored and thrown out.
  • Has visited a nutritionist and bought "healthy meals", but eats them as snacks.

I'm so sorry if I sound like I'm monitoring her intake, but it's so hard not to notice it. She has such an unhealthy relationship with food, and the effect it's having on her joints is stressful to watch.

She delayed going to the doctor about her other hip because she knew her BMI would be too high. My aunt has recently had a gastric band and has dropped loads of weight, my mum doesn't like this muc and is snarky about her. The same happened when her childhood best friend dropped loads of weight - "her poor face looks so old now".

I know she had a difficult time being an overweight kid. But so did me and my brother; we were both massively obese and now struggle hugely to keep the weight off. I was bullied horrifically at school as a result and still bear the emotional scars, but I am grown now and can take responsibility for my own weight and happiness.

I am now at the point where I struggle to sympathise with her when she tells me about how painful her hip is, while eating bags of chocolate.

She uses her good blood pressure and normal cholesterol levels to justify that she is healthy and fine, ignoring the arthritis, which is now even reaching her shoulder.

I really want to help. I know calling someone fat never made anyone thin (I had to go through this myself). But she is so unhappy, so immobile, and I think the more her mobility drops the larger she will get. I think she is addicted and needs help. What can I do, please?

OP posts:
RantyAnty · 16/08/2019 18:16

Would it be possible to consult a dr or therapist who specializes in eating disorders?

They might be able to offer you some advice.

She could have the surgery but she'll still have to deal with the addiction part of it.
Maybe she has given up?

Since she does AlAnon, the OA might be a good idea too as it would be familiar. I wonder if you went and asked her to go with you as support, if she would go?

Footle · 16/08/2019 18:21

Even if she's not diabetic she will be insulin resistant. It's a much tougher problem than lack of willpower.

CassettesAreCool · 16/08/2019 18:41

OP it's an illness and it is so, so hard to watch someone you love struggle with an illness as your Mum is doing. What you can do is let her know how much you love and appreciate her, and how much you want her around as you proceed through your life. Maybe the fear of dying young and leaving you will strike a chord with her?

Just a thought. I was obese (not morbidly so) and realised my 'fat suit' was a means of fending off a particularly hard truth in my life. Once I had addressed that truth, the fat melted away and I was ready to face the world again. I think the hard truth in your Mum's life is her parents' abuse of her - to my mind, parental alcoholism = child abuse, though I may get flamed for that - could she get counselling for that?

JemimaPuddlePeacock · 16/08/2019 18:48

Hey OP.

I just wanted to say I’m so, so sorry. You clearly love her so much, but she’s killing herself slowly and there’s nothing you can do about someone else’s addiction. All you can do is love her for who she is and appreciate her and the time you have with her and hope that someday she’ll wake up to the problem herself and address it. But frankly at her age and size and how long it’s been going on I can’t see her recovering.

Just wanted to say, as someone who lost my own mum to addiction, whatever happens you’ll get through it. You’ll survive. You’ll cope. You love your mum and always will no matter how long or short a time you have with her. I understand the fear of not knowing what you’d do without her but there are many of us who’ve been through it and survived. It just hurts. So much.

Gingerkittykat · 16/08/2019 19:05

Until your mum gets treatment for her eating disorder then nothing will help. The problem is that there is very little help out there, and GPs etc are often harsh making it hard to walk through the door.

I have a long history of eating disorders, first starving as a teen, then bulimia in my late teens and 20s then binge eating and resulting obesity as an adult.

I was lucky enough to get help from a team in my area who work with obese people with a BMI of 40+ and it was a structured programme with a dietician and psychologist and it was about the mind as much as the body.

Like @CassettesAreCool there is even subconscious reasons for staying fat. Mine was a result of abuse and liking the invisibility from men and lack of male attraction. For many becoming more attractive is a strong motivator to lose weight but for some it is terrifying.

I don't know if something like that exists where you are, or if your mum would even make the first step.

Being morbidly obese is a miserable shame filled place and must be horrible for people to watch a loved one being there.

Tana433 · 16/08/2019 19:35

I could cry OP because until a couple of months ago you could have been describing me. I was/am just like your mum with regards addiction to food. I am 47 now and have always been big, not as big as your mum but as 5ft 2" I weighed 15 stone at my heaviest and if I hadn't taken it in hand would be much bigger

Tana433 · 16/08/2019 19:38

I have total addiction to food, anything and everything unhealthy and lots of it. Im so embarrassed. I am on week 10 of complete healthy eating and trying to love myself a bit more. I cant tell you how good I feel. 2 stone has come off and I am down a dress size. Im still huge but its a start and I feel like im taking back my life. I wish your mum lots of luck to change her outlook.

Redtartanshoes · 16/08/2019 19:51

Nothing useful to add but a hand hold. I’m in my 30’s, mum in her 60’s. She’s a size 30+, no idea what she weighs. She’s lost 7 or 8 stone in the past but then falls off the wagon and piles it all back on. She’s depressed so she eats but is depressed because she eats.

She too is totally obsessed by food and eats a ridiculous amount. We’ll go out for breakfast and she’ll as for extra eggs and toast and such like.

She too can hardly walk now, and blames it on arthritis but really it’s due to her weight. She even has a blue badge now she had so many probs wLking.

It’s so so sad, but I know there’s nothing I or anyone else can do: she can’t give up food. I know she’ll not live as long as she could, and will end up in a wheel chair within the next year or 2. I’m sad for all the things she’s missing out on, the places she can’t go, the things she can’t do just because of her eight Sad

Mummadeeze · 16/08/2019 20:05

I sympathise. My Mum is in denial about her diet. She has diabetes and has had two heart attacks but still eat lots of junk food including sweets and biscuits etc. She is extremely sensitive about it and it is impossible to give her advice. She is very defensive too and absolutely insists she doesn’t eat much and eats healthily. I don’t know what to do either as she is ill all the time and makes her life a misery but refuses to believe it could be associated with her diet. I have given up really, she doesn’t want to change and you can’t force someone to. Sorry not to be more helpful but I understand how worrying it is.

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