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Childrens services affecting family relationships

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5unshineLollypops · 15/08/2019 15:39

Hi! Has anyone else had SS get involved with spurious accusations about a child's disability and accuse the parents of fabricating what a top rehabilitation specialist says is xyz and the child needs to see a certain specialist, but SS prevent that from happening to ignore all the evidence in order to accuse the parents? despite the child being supported medically via consultants and pediatrician to this day for the disability because they have supported the child unable! to walk and hardly able to move at all...

Has anyone had the social worker convince the teenager in the home that the parents are lying and there is nothing happening that is real to the younger child with the disability. Then the SW encouraging bullying and majorly physically (and some emotionally too) abusive family members to get involved and against the parents - causing them to come and physically attack the parents and eventually supporting the teenager placing herself into foster care as she came of age to put herself into care. Then encouraging the teenager not to talk to the parents or let them know anything about them even going away from England - though the parents still have parental responsibility...? The teenager was coaxed out of a lovely, loving, kind, caring and supportive home which in reality - they laughed and played with their family in of evenings and weekends until only a few days before they went, and the teenager could not ever dispute their sibling's disability really and so they say.. well that was worse ages ago... so... (it doesn't exist magically because they say so - sound familiar?) - majorly deceived and involved in negative attentive things - as an adolescent.

Then, has anyone had a social worker do visits at your childminder's house several times (I suspect to ruin us having such wonderful and genuine childcare), and had the social worker go to their church and express safe guarding concerns which they have to take seriously, because they say so and pretending anything you say is a lie - though there has been no! fabrication of any disability. And then the SW suggest they go to your friend's and meet with your child when they go there... age above 11!! with nothing child protective for the parents to do as of core group meetings. Meanwhile the sibling in question is telling the truth - that she doesn't need a SW, the symptoms are real and parents are fine, sibling is just a teenager... etc. and is being completely ignored and having the schools act as if the things to do with the disability they have happen to them, aren't happening to them when they do.

It's a lot like the SW just wants everyone who loves and supports us, not to. In the name of child protection, which is such a farce in our case. All I have had is This is going against on the board - just because I say so! and it stands. Anyone had a clear psycho evaluation to prove the truth too? all evidence exposing the truth completely ignored? They need to take me to court. Do you have video's of your child in pain and with the disability because the pediatrician asked for them? and SS conveniently would not ever come when the child was unable to move down the bed, sit up or go anywhere with pain, and refuse to watch the videos. Anyone had SS then get a random pediatrician who has never met any of you assess your kids medical notes but report on none of the evidence truth showing reports (as if they never had them given to them), and decide your guilty, then SS run with that report as if it's all they need to keep on going against you..?

I just could do with indirectly talking with people who may understand a mess like ours. And if there are folks reading this who can relate to some of or a lot of these things, I think we should connect. SS should not be destroying people and sweet families. I seen two Counselors who said it's a miracle I have survived all I have been through with all this at all (there's more diagnosis's - there has been a lot! to get through in our home within those two years.. stage 2 Cancer, Asperger's & Seizures) and caring for my family and having our church family & faith, are all that is keeping me going - say the counselors.

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MummyMini · 15/08/2019 15:51

This sounds like a bit of a mess and very confusing. Have you sought legal advice?

I’m a social worker myself.

Fl0rence1985 · 15/08/2019 19:32

Not all social workers are bad BUT the ones that are, really are terrible.
I know some people will say there's no hidden agenda blah blah but for some there really Is!
If you're on a cp plan, it is really hard to argue with anything they say because they shut you down and say you're being obstructive and not working with them, even if you have proof that what they are doing is not in any way good for your children and they are causing irreparable damage.
I've been through it and it got to the point where it was just laughable because everyone in the room knew it was wrong but wouldn't go against the social worker (who sat there doodling, staring out the window and smirking throughout) after that I asked for the full complaints procedure and followed through with it. I've never heard of a 'child protection' case closed down as quick as they did. They went through the motions of stepping it down but I didn't see them once inbetween meetings, hardly saw them throughout the whole shit show, either but the apparently had grave concerns for my children 🤔
Try going down the complaints route with documented evidence and highlighting everything you believe is wrong. They're not easy to fight against, they probably get used to hearing parents say they haven't done anything wrong and it's all lies. You need to prove it and not be fobbed off as another 'yeah we've heard that story before' case

Soontobe60 · 15/08/2019 19:44

The procedures social workers have to follow are rigorous to say the least. A family doesn't suddenly come to their attention, they have to be reported by someone else, school, GP, neighbour etc.
OP, your post is very rambling and therefore is confusing. Are you saying that the social worker is wrong? What about whoever raised the initial concern? If your children are on a CP plan, the meetings are chaired by a senior person who will have full understanding of procedures.
What is it you're asking us?

Fl0rence1985 · 15/08/2019 20:08

Not all social workers follow their rigorous procedures or get pulled up on their underhand tactics and lies. If you believe that's not true then you're lucky not to have been on the receiving end of the mess they can and do create.

JK1773 · 15/08/2019 20:40

You need to take legal advice OP. Legal aid is available to deal with social services. Have they actually gone to court? Are they threatening to? Sounds like a lot going on without any real input on your behalf. If they’re alleging you’re fabricating illness they should be going to court so that a medical expert your lawyer agrees to can look into it properly and thoroughly!

Frith2013 · 16/08/2019 01:00

I’ve had a social worker write in a Cafcass report that a school friend of mine worked in the women’s refuge so we had hatched a plot between ourselves that I could move into the refuge and I could (a direct quote here) “cry domestic abuse”.

I did email a lady at the refuge (as I had not been allowed to use the phone or car for 5 years) but I didn’t know her and still have never actually met her!

So nothing surprises me any more.

TheBouquets · 16/08/2019 01:05

I have not seen things with Social Workers on the same story as you but I have seen the most disgusting twisting of facts and some very clear stupidity. I have also seen Social Workers unable to admit that they got things wrong.

I have watched them demand that a young mother of several children should tackle an extremely violent serial criminal. No Social Worker would take on the violent criminal not even a very large male Social Worker. They gave in to all the demands of the violent criminal.
Social Workers also published the addresses of quite a number of vulnerable females and children.
My experiences of Social Workers have not been good and have never improved no matter how often their mistakes are shown up.
I would not believe a word from a Social Worker. They bluster through their lies. Their personal lives leave a lot to be desired.
Then there are the baby "P" cases, we know about baby P but how many others there have been whose lives have been blighted by Social Workers one way or another.

5unshineLollypops · 21/08/2019 15:32

I was posting to talk to people who understand such things. I'm not getting into any more details than the main facts and issues. It was only one person backed up by one other at the school and SS who accused us in the fist place.

Yes, of course I do know what is the truth and what is not.

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5unshineLollypops · 21/08/2019 15:36

I can relate to many things commented on this thread. Thank You, it's helpful to see we're not the only ones.. I didn't imagine we were.

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5unshineLollypops · 21/08/2019 15:46

we had a solicitor who we don't have now because they retracted taking us to court and therefore I am not eligible for legal aid - solicitor support. I Welcomed this going to court! all ignored real evidence would be shown there and so that 'because they say so', won't stand.

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corythatwas · 21/08/2019 20:46

I have been in a situation where a child's disability (also one affecting child's ability to move) has been doubted, but not by SS but by other authorities.

What strikes me about your story is the odd reaction of your teenager. It doesn't seem like a normal reaction for an untroubled teen to suddenly take herself into care because a random adult comes and tells her her younger sibling is not disabled. Were there problems before? How as her relationship with you? With her sibling? Was she ok in herself? Was she traumatised by the attacks by other family members? Hard to understand exactly what is going on here.

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