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Relationship help (mother and me)

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screamer1 · 12/08/2019 23:10

My mum and I have quite a tense relationship. In some ways we are very close - I love her very much, She would do anything for me etc (and I know how lucky I am to have that.) However, we have some real issues that I just can't seem to resolve.

As background, she was from an abusive family (I've never met them as she's completely estranged from them). She was quite a domineering mother, but very present (she's from another European country and I think there's some cultural clashes that occur).

Anyway, she just consistently does stuff that either pisses me off (at best), or at worst really upsets me. For example, we had ivf and I dealt with it by creating a bubble for myself and DH and not wanting to discuss it, etc. During this period she kept sending me text messages about how we must have a terrible relationship because I can't talk to her, that I don't trust her etc. She still now will send me random messages out of the blue with a similar vibe.

Today we were out to see an exhibition with my two young children, and they didn't want to hold her hand (only mine). She kept making a massive deal about how they wouldn't hold her hands and then turned to me and said "I don't know why they won't, there must be a reason. They must hear things". I know it sounds petty but it's this sort of stuff that really upsets me. It's like a low and constant onslaught of emotional guilt-tripping. I live up the road from her, we see her at least once a week. We always invite her round (if I invite her to anything it's always "I didn't think you'd want me there"). But it feels like nothing is ever good enough for her. I feel constantly guilty, as though I'm letting her down and that we should be going to spa days every weekend.

For my part, I think I've just started slowly pulling back from her, and that has probably just makes things worse. But she says these explosive things and I'm meant to just plod on like everything is fine (when inside I'm either furious or very sad).

I've had therapy about it but it hasn't changed anything really. I'm just worried that when she dies it'll be with the thought that I never wanted her around. And I'll be left with the knowledge that she felt like i never loved her or something.

I know this is so minor compared to so many other people's worries. But it really does upset me, I just don't feel like there's anything I can do to fix it.

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screamer1 · 12/08/2019 23:10

Oh god that's so long!

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MrMagooooo · 13/08/2019 09:00

Have you tried telling her how you feel? If you don't tell her, she will never know or ever be able to change.

She might not listen but you either live with it or you distance yourself if you pick her up on things every time until she gets it. If she doesn't get it you're back to putting up with it or distancing yourself again.

Technically you don't owe your parents anything and if any person was getting me down I would limit contact with them.

GreenTulips · 13/08/2019 09:05

You won’t change her. It’s her mindset.

The kids pick up on her negativity and act accordingly. She made her own bed and you can’t change it.

You need to step up and ignore or call her out.

I didn't think you'd want me there" REPEAT it back to her ‘you didn’t think we’d want you there?’ Wait for her answer -she won’t have one
Keep doing

screamer1 · 13/08/2019 09:39

I've told her many, many times. It always turns round to how much I annoy her, or how I said something when I was 15 that upset her.

I've just received a text from her now blaming me for how the children don't feel safe around her and how they are picking it all up from me. I can honestly say I don't think I do ANYTHING that shows my annoyance in front of them. Yesterday I was constantly encouraging them to hold her hand. In the text she's bringing up loads of examples of times that she thinks I've shown her up in front of the children, which is why they are like that. It just seems so unfair to bring a 2 and 4 year old into the whole thing.

Literally everything I do is seen as a micro aggression towards her.

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Lazydaisies · 13/08/2019 09:44

Your mother sounds like she has long standing abandonment issues from her childhood that she is looking for you to resolve. You cannot do that for her, only she can. Her behaviour is pushing you away but it is really her fear that she will lose you that is causing it. It is very difficult if she doesn’t get help but what you are doing, putting good boundaries in place is all you can do.

screamer1 · 13/08/2019 14:08

It's just sad that I don't know how to fix it.

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GreenTulips · 13/08/2019 14:10

You don’t have to fix it.

GreenTulips · 13/08/2019 14:11

Text back ‘clearly you can’t stand to round me or my children, I take it you no longer wish to visit or be invited out?’

Gamble66 · 13/08/2019 14:44

Honestly I would address this and fast - your children - very young children ; prefer to hold thier mother's hand - big deal. Tell her it either stops of she doesn't see you again. Do not inflict this bullshit on your children as they get older - it's abusive and manipulation.

AbbieLexie · 13/08/2019 14:58

It is not your responsibility to fix it. You will never be able to fix it. Step back - detach - firm boundaries. Flowers

Lazydaisies · 13/08/2019 15:00

Yes OP it is very sad that we cannot solve the problems of those we love. But we can’t and trying to is an absolute frustration.

bumblebeejockstrap · 13/08/2019 15:02

Could you send her a text along the lines of ... 'i know you are afraid of us not being close, but the blaming will end up creating a wedge between us. we all love you very much, but the constant need for showing interest/emotions the way you deem apropriate is getting me down, and will in the end cause resentment instead of a good relationship.'

Of course not word for word but getting thru to her that you acknowledge she is needy and that you don't get a good relationship this way.

KissMeBunty · 13/08/2019 15:06

From personal experience, you need to be tough with her. I know you'll probably feel like crying, but you need to tell her that it's unfair, every bloody time she says something. Your kids can't grow up hearing her speak to their mother that way.

screamer1 · 13/08/2019 19:00

Thank you so much for replying. Good advice, and I know you're all right. It just feels quite lonely sometimes.

I will take on board all the advice about boundaries. Thanks again.

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