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Was this abuse?

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Jaffacakesaremyfave · 12/08/2019 22:27

After escaping recently from a 2 year hell of abusive relationships, I have been trying to analyse my past behaviour so i can change and stop attracting abusive men in the future.

One of the things I've realised is that i was so codependent, i couldn't actually recognise abusive behaviour in front of me when it was so clear to everyone else i was being abused.

The one relationship that I can't quite figure out is the only man who I believe treated me well but then there's so many doubts to this too. I can see things so clearly now in other people and posts on MN but it's still so hard for me to see things in my own life so I need some perspective on this.

I met him when working abroad and dated for 3 weeks when I fell seriously ill. The first few days of illness my exP (who was a final year medical student) had to take me to A&E but they just thought I had a tropical illness that can be mild and theres no treatment so I was sent home. My exP had arranged a weekend on a resort the week before this and I felt so bad for ruining his weekend he'd paid for that I agreed to still go despite being ill.

On the bus journey to the resort, I really started to deteriorate and was having rigors (shaking uncontrollably due to very high fever). The whole bus journey he debated whether to take me back into hospital but we were quite remote so we agreed I'd go to the hotel and see the dr at the hotel.

When we got there, the hotel dr wasn't there and I didnt want to travel hours again as at this point my body was shutting down and I needed to sleep. I know it sounds nuts that I didnt go straight to hospital but I was in a poorly developed foreign country and I'd been told it was this mild viral illness and there was nothing they could do so I thought that resting in an air conditioned room for 48 hours before we travelled back to the capital would be better. I was also having periods where I stopped feeling nautious enough to eat and the fever would break for a few hours so I kept thinking I was getting better. My ex decided to get drunk and high the entire weekend while I was really suffering in the room. He kept encouraging me to eat etc but I could sense his resentment that I'd ruined the weekend and he didnt let it ruin his fun.

One night he came back to the room drunk and had sex with me after just feeling my head and saying how hot I was. I was pretty delirious and very weak and I just didnt have the energy to stop his advances. I cried afterwards and recognised it felt wrong but then I didnt exactly scream and shout or push him off either so it still feels quite 'grey' about whether this was rape.

I have a vague memory that he apologised the next day but then I think I've blocked alot of this out. What's sad is that I dated him for over a year after this and in every other way, I believed he was 'perfect' and always regretted breaking up with him. When we finally got back to the capital, I was admitted into hospital straight away and had to be given IV's for severe infection and dehydration and was in hospital for 5 days.

My ex visited me every day but I could sense his embarrassment about being seen by his hospital colleagues being associated with me. I guess I can understand he maybe felt unprofessional and didnt want his colleagues to know about his private life but it's also quite callous as he refused to come into A&E with me and waited outside when I had no one else there with me. He did ultimately look after me and cleaned up my sick etc. when I came out of hospital. Maybe he did all this out of guilt? I think I very much trauma bonded with him and because of that, he always felt like 'the one' who I broke up with.

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Lily2811 · 12/08/2019 22:35

I don't know if it was abuse but it sounds very wrong of him to have tried to have sex with you when you were so unwell.

Lily2811 · 12/08/2019 22:36

It sounds like you need some counselling about this if you don't mind me saying, perhaps something trauma based like EMDR. It sounds horrible what you went through. I hope you're okay Flowers

Jaffacakesaremyfave · 12/08/2019 23:00

Thanks @Lily, I've actually just booked some EMDR therapy (for lots of stuff) and have my first appointment next week.

What I've realised is that I've only ever dated narcissists. I mean literally ALL my relationships longer than a few months were narcs but this guy I really struggle to understand. He had a few of the warning signs e.g. 1. He said he loved me very quickly (2 weeks) and it was all a whirlwind and he was very complementary in the beginning, 2. He gave me his phone to look at photos and messages popped up from another woman and were clearly sexual but he said he hadn't spoken to this women in weeks (before he met me) and I could see from his whatapp that he hadn't responded since the date he said but then I know you can delete individual WhatsApp messages to make it look like you didnt respond. 3. his ex was 'crazy' and always accused him of cheating but he said he didn't, 4. He gave me his passwords to everything (which I now know creates a false sense of intimacy) and I never asked for them or said I didnt trust him, 5. I found intimate pictures he had taken of me during video sex which I didnt consent to and also provocative pictures of another woman on his google account, 6. he moved on within weeks of us breaking up and when i rang him after we broke up he pretended to want to get back with me and made me play along for 30 minutes then to turn around at the end to say he'd met someone else and didnt want to get back with me.

He was very different to my other exes and I felt treated me really well but then we were long distance so it was all very intense when we were together.

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Quartz2208 · 12/08/2019 23:25

I imagine the hospital was because as a medical student he let you get so ill you need a 5 day drip after he kept you confined in a room and raped you so yes therapy might help

Jaffacakesaremyfave · 13/08/2019 11:29

Thanks @Quartz2208, that is very validating for me as it's all very confusing in my mind still.

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Shoxfordian · 13/08/2019 12:18

Yeah therapy will help
Plus the freedom programme if you haven't done it would help you avoid attracting dicks like this in future.
He treated you really badly and in my view, he raped you because of course you didn't consent to sex when you were so unwell. I would actually be nicer to a stranger than he was to you. I'm glad he's an ex.

Jaffacakesaremyfave · 13/08/2019 13:44

@Shoxfordian I'm glad he's an ex too but it took me several years to realise this. I've done the freedom programme and I definitely think my boundaries are much stronger than they used to be. It's so hard when theres emotions tied up in it all as I think I've held onto thinking he wasnt abusive as it's pretty hard to accept I've never been in a healthy relationship.

I agree it was rape and it makes me feel guilty for not recognising it at the time as he is a qualified Dr now and who knows what he is capable of with vulnerable patients. I think at the time I made alot of excuses for why he did what he did (maybe he didnt realise I was so ill etc.) and the way he cared for me afterwards just added to the confusion.

The whole thing was so embarrassing as we travelled back the next day by which point I think I was close to sepsis and so didnt wash and when I got back to the capital, I was examined down there as I had abdominal pain and I smelled of sex. It was on an open bay with lots of doctors rushing around me as i was working at the hospital and i think they were embarrassed for missing the diagnosis the first time. I was also very Ill by this point.

My exP also regularly checked my medical records whilst an inpatient which he shouldn't really have been allowed to do but by this point I was just so grateful to have him there that I didnt care.

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