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Am I looking to much into this .....?

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Daisy778 · 08/08/2019 00:57

Hi, I'm hoping for a bit of insight and advice if possible please. I know this may seem like a minor issue to many of you but I'm really hoping that I could get some reassurance.

My husband started a new job around a year ago. In previous jobs he has always been very open with talking about his work colleagues and sharing his day, as I am with him. His previous jobs have predominantly been Male environments and he has always encouraged me to visit and pop in.

His new job is a mixture of Male and female and I know he gets on well with everyone. In the early days of his new job he would talk to me about his day and include both his male and female colleagues, however he has gradually been avoiding talking about ' the girls in the office' ( as he now calls them). He doesn't refer to any by name and when he does he seems very cautious.

I asked him a few nights ago very casually why he doesn't talk to me about 'the girls in the office' any more (they sound like a lively bunch and I enjoyed hearing stories about them and what they get up to!). He immediately became defensive and said he's not getting into this with me, which is very unlike him. He's usually very laid back and we very rarely argue.

I was quite taken back by his response and left him for a while why I had a bath, following that he came upstairs and cuddled me and I asked him why he reacted the way he did. He said I always twist what he says when he talks about the girls and read into things ( which is absolutely not true and a pure fabrication) I asked him to give me an example and he said he couldn't, I asked him whether I had had any issue in the past when he talked about working with his female colleagues and he said no. He then said he was just tired and just wanted a nice quiet evening and not to argue and wished to leave it.

I left it for the following 2 hours, but I was struggling to brush his reaction off as it was so unlike him. I said I didn't want to argue and I understood he was tired and maybe didn't want to talk about it now, however he had upset me the way he responded. He didn't answer and I then had to ask him whether he had heard me to which he replied yes, what do you want me to say. In all honesty it has left me feeling quite confused and unsettled and actually a little concerned that he has something to hide..... after thinking about it, he discourages me from visiting his new work place ( which I never did much of anyway) and when I suggested bringing him up lunch one day he said no as he doesn't get time to stop.

I feel really petty writing this as it seems so trivial, however it is so unlike him. We have been together over 20 years ( got together in our teens) 2 DC in their late teens and are a really solid couple. We never argue and communication has always been amazing.

If someone could make sense of the above and give me another perspective I would be incredibly grateful. If you need to ask any questions then please do. Thanks for taking the time to read this long and probably boring post 🙈

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FuriousVexation · 08/08/2019 01:03

Sorry but it all screams affair. His reaction to your innocent question shows guilt and defensiveness. He is either already in an affair or is in the preparation stage.

WishICouldThinkOfAGoodName · 08/08/2019 01:52

I was thinking the same as @FuriousVexation

Go with your gut instinct, start to do a little digging, but don’t let him know.

managedmis · 08/08/2019 01:59

Definitely don't ask him anymore questions tonight.

But yeah, do some digging.

I'd start with social media - is he online much?

managedmis · 08/08/2019 02:01

Any nights away recently with work? Business trips? Has he started taking more care of his appearance?

OldUnit · 08/08/2019 02:09

You sound very reasonable but I don't see why you would, or have in the past seen fit to visit any of his workplaces, or think it's something you should do.

It's a bit odd, he's at work! I'd hate my partner to keep turning up at my workplaces, it's a professional setting where I'd like to keep my personal life out of.

Sadiesnakes · 08/08/2019 02:17

Sorry op, he's more then likely having an affair with "one of the girls".
I'm afraid you'll need to act as nonchalant as possible from now on and dig, dig, dig. His reaction shows he's not prepared to be honest and is protecting what's happening by being defensive, minimizing and gaslighting.
Find out as much proof as you can, emails, texts, where and who he lunches with, etc, if he hasn't covered his tracks.

You are not acting petty. His defensive outburst was as good as an admission.

avamiah · 08/08/2019 02:27

What is his job?

Daisy778 · 08/08/2019 08:32

Thank you furious vexation. That was what I was worried about, however when you're 'in it' it all seems very muddy and can't see things clearly. I appreciate your perspective. I just hope you're wrong 😥

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Daisy778 · 08/08/2019 08:36

My instincts are generally good and we know each other so well. I just know something isnt right.

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Daisy778 · 08/08/2019 08:39

No managedmis, and not late home either. Since starting the job though he has 'cared' more about his appearance and fussed around in the mornings more that usual with his beard and hair. He also wanted to lose weight and has lost about a stone and a half. He also decided to buy a sports car about a month ago which were laughed off as a midlife crisis.... it all seems odd when I'm putting it all together.

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TheVanguardSix · 08/08/2019 08:44

I was going to say you're reading too much into this, but you got me with your most recent post. The weight loss, the sports car, and the rest- it's painfully cliche but to me, this is the sign of a man dressed to impress. He may not be having an affair, but he's trying to get someone to look his way.

Daisy778 · 08/08/2019 08:50

Thank you odd unit. My husband has always encouraged me to visit him at his work place, which I very rarely did ( probably 3 times in 10 years) as quite rightly I didn't want to bother him or his coworkers. In previous jobs he has asked me to bring him a lunch and stop for a chat. I think I have felt strange this time around which is why I suggested popping him down a lunch. It maybe nothing and just not appropriate at this work place, however I know his bosses wife pops in and out regularly and it hasn't seemed any less appropriate when I first went down there with him when he first started. My mind is just working overtime now I think !

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pheonixrebirth · 08/08/2019 08:54

I really hope he isn't having an affair OP, however- that gut feeling is there for a reason and you need to trust it!
And just for future reference, if he ever calls you crazy/mad then I'd say he's definitely cheating. Every man I've known to cheat uses that phrase.🤷‍♀️

Robin2323 · 08/08/2019 08:54

How old is he?
If he's approaching 40 it classic
Midlife crises.
I've seen it no end of times for men approaching 50.
Is your relationship sound?
Any rows lately?
Any family problems?
Teenage kids arguments?
Are you still having a laugh together ?
And most telling how is you sex life?
Midlife seems to be about dissatisfaction with your life.
It is a time to reassess and make changes but it can be a very confusing time too.
People can make bad choices.

Middersweekly · 08/08/2019 08:55

It does sound like he’s trying to impress someone with his extra grooming, weight loss and sports car. It could be that he’s trying to fit in with younger colleagues at work or he could be focusing his attention on one particular person. If he was working out, buying new underwear and being secretive with his phone (keeping it on his person wherever he went etc) then I would suspect something was amiss. I think the only way you will know for sure is if you turn up at his workplace unannounced!

Daisy778 · 08/08/2019 08:55

Thank you sadie snakes. I read about these awful situations on here and am so grateful for my relationship. It all seems so easy reading through someone elses post and clearly seeing the warning signs. However, when these signs start appearing in your own relationship it is so confusing, scary and can make you feel like you're a little crazy.

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Daisy778 · 08/08/2019 09:01

Thank you the vanguard six. I don't see how he has the time to see someone else out of work as when hes not there we're together, however If something is going on I suspect he has an interest in someone and is trying to catch their eye. It's heartbreaking if that's the case.

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lonelyinacrowd39 · 08/08/2019 09:06

If something smells off then it usually is. I would go with your instinct all the way on this. Do some digging , on social media ,if you know any names of the girls he works with search them too. He will probably make you out to be paranoid but that's what they do.

Daisy778 · 08/08/2019 09:09

Thank you Robin2323. Yes he is mid 40's. We very rarely argue and things have been better than ever between us. If anything he is telling me more that he loves me, find me sexy. We are very close and he has always and still is very affectionate towards me.

Our sexlife has been the best it has ever been and if anything it has doubled rather than diminished. He did have a spell around 6mths ago where he struggled to get aroused but he has come back better than ever.

Our DC are good children successful and driven and life at home is good.

We talk about our future and make plans. It could all just boil down to a midlife crisis and I'm putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5 but I just can't shake off these niggles and his reaction to my question about not talking about the girls anymore really threw me.

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Daisy778 · 08/08/2019 09:18

Thank you lonely in a crowd 39. Yes he's on social media and as far as I can tell not interacting with any if the 'girls in the office'. I will do some digging.

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xoxoluna · 08/08/2019 09:19

It does sound very fishy OP. Trust your gut. I would start some digging or plan a surprise visit to the office with lunch. Does his office have any company events? Are you ever invited to meet his colleagues?

Daisy778 · 08/08/2019 09:23

Thank you Midersweekly. After reading through the posts and his behaviour, I suspect he is trying to catch the eye of someone. He takes his phone everywhere with him however he does let me have it if I need it. I'm tempted to have a look when he is asleep but feel like a mad crazy woman thinking of doing these things !

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Daisy778 · 08/08/2019 09:29

Thank you xoxoluna. There have been recent events which we have been invited to, however he has said he doesn't want to go as he spends enough time with them during the week. We did all go out in September last year and it all seemed fine, however one of the girls was quite drunk when we arrived and when my husband introduced me to her she just said " ahhh, don't you make a perfect couple" which I thought was an odd reaction to our introduction but think it was probably just the drink. In fact we had quite a laugh and I have suggested we do it again on numerous occasions which he seems non committal about. He doesn't go out on his own with them either.

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Bluntness100 · 08/08/2019 10:20

I don't believe in the trust your instinct crap. I've seen enough posts on here from women with low self esteem and jealousy issues to know that you should only trust your instincts if your mentally healthy and even then they can be wrong.

Op, you deny you're the person your husband is saying you are. He's basically saying uour jealous and insecure. Either he is gaslighting you and deflecting, or you are and you don't want to admit it.

I find taking lunch to your spouses work odd. As is visiting him in his workplace. I'd be horrified if my husband did that. It smacks of making your presence known, so I'm wondering if there is more to this than you're admitting or want people to know.

All of this is because you want him to tell you about the women at work.

It's hard to apply critical thinking here, because you position it that you are not a jealous insecure person. You just want to know about the women at work, like to visit him at work and wish to take him lunch at work. Looking at that in cold isolation, without your justification then many people would say there is maybe another side to this story.

One you've no desire to tell anyone, because you know full well you'll just be told to back off and deal with your issues.

Daisy778 · 08/08/2019 10:39

Thank you Bluntness100, I appreciate your perspective and appreciate the balance. The reason I have posted on here is to get a non emotional perspective as currently feel very clouded.

In terms of your reference to me taking lunch to my DH at work, this is something he has instigated in the past and something that I have very rarely done. I have never imposed myself on him at work or made myself a presence, only going when he had asked me to.

Additionally, my issue isn't the fact I want to hear about the girls at work, I just noticed a change in his behaviour where he had stopped talking about them and it was his reaction to me asking why that completely took me back, as I said it is out of character.

Please do feel free to ask me anything, I have nothing to hide and am just hoping for some reassurance or clarity.

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