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Was this unreasonable of me?

31 replies

ColdAndSad · 01/08/2019 16:42

I just want to know what everyone else thinks about this. Because I am being told that what I did was very hurtful and deliberately trouble-making, and I just don't get it.

My husband likes a drink. I think he drinks too much--anything between 80 and 150 units a week, although he denies that he drinks that much. When he drinks he gets obstreperous. He has anger issues, although again, he denies this: he's had letters from clients saying he's been abusive, letters from employees saying he "violently lost his temper and screamed down the phone" at them. He has a horrible temper, to the extent where I feel like I can't ask him anything without risking an outburst.

We had a horrible weekend where he got falling-down drunk on the friday night, shouted at me at length, calling me names, just because I mentioned that I was taking the cats to the vet the next day, then the next day he had no recollection of having shouted and said I was making it all up.

Then on the sunday I asked him what was happening with a business we own--it's heavy machinery which before Christmas 2018 he moved from our outbuildings into an industrial unit 30 miles away. It turns out that they've not yet been installed so aren't usable, so we've lost six months of income and grants from the installation, which we have now spent over £300,000 on and had no return on. He said that I was criticising him because I said he should have sorted it out by now; then he turned it all back onto me and told me I am not prepared to take responsibility for anything, that I am lazy, that I am interfering in his work, and so on. It was awful.

So on the monday I got up, really unhappy; realised I couldn't cope alone with his drinking and anger any more, and went to see his parents, desperate for help. I told them about how much he drinks, I told them about how he is abusive to me, and so angry so much of the time; and I told them how I'd discovered last year that he'd committed a fraud (to do with the machinery he moved but hasn't yet installed), and implicated me and our children in that fraud. I said I couldn't cope with his awful behaviour any more, and I needed their support to try to get him to get the help he needs.

They reacted by telling me I was making it all up, that he's a lovely man and would never lose his temper or drink to excess (despite his mother having told me years ago that he's a nasty drunk). They started to shout at me (I can see where he gets it from) so I left, came home, by which time they'd phoned him, told him all.

He came racing home, packed a bag, reduced our son to tears, and left, all without speaking to me.

That was a month ago. He has pretty much ignored me ever since, refusing to engage with me in any way. He's told me he left "because of your actions", which I assume means that I told his parents the truth about how he treats me, his drinking, and the fraud, all of which he of course denies.

Oh, and after he left I phoned his parents as I'd promised I would, and his mother said I should watch my back because she was coming after me. It was all just so dysfunctional and horrible. I understand that he doesn't want people to know about his drinking and his abuse and his fraud, and that it must have been difficult for his parents to hear: and I am relieved not to have him here any more, being angry and threatening and drunk.

But he and his family seem so convinced that it was wrong of me to speak to his parents as I did, and I wonder if it really was as bad as all that. I wasn't bitching about him, I was honestly desperate and thought that even though they don't like me much, they love him, and would want to help. With hindsight I can see that it was foolish of me to expect them to help; but I didn't intend it maliciously. Was it really that bad?

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thunderandlightening35 · 02/08/2019 07:13

I don't think you're in the wrong at all, if my son was acting that way I would like to know so I can possibly help. No matter what age he is.

AgentJohnson · 02/08/2019 07:52

His family are not angry at you per se, are angry for your interference with their denial about their pig of a relative. You’re just a convenient dumping ground for their emotions because they have no influence over the person they are really angry with.

You are still extremely vulnerable because you’re still desperate for him to be someone other than he actually is. You are real in danger of taking him back if he temporarily changed his approach by not being a pig for five minutes.

You’ve been asking the wrong question for a very long time. It isn’t ‘why does he......?’ but ‘why do I take his shit’? He isn’t the reason you stayed, you and you need to understand why.

SeaSidePebbles · 02/08/2019 08:12

OP, if it’s any consolation, I took care of my exH’s mum as if she was my own. Before I came along, she was not included in her children’s life unless it was to be fleeced (she is wealthy, they are spongers).

I took her to medical appointments, took her on holiday with us, she has been a tremendous help to me, and so have I. She helped me because she saw her son wasn’t doing it. She was frustrated with his behaviour, upset with him. We had a really really nice mother daughter relationship. We were a family.

The minute we split up, she stopped looking me in the eyes, cut all contact, because it would be disloyal to her son. Her only granddaughter, once a huge part of her life, became, overnight, someone you see on occasions.
I fought hard for my DD’s realtionship with her grandmother. MIL turned overnight into ‘let nana buy whatever your nasty crazy mum won’t. But only when it suits me, I’m quite busy otherwise’.
Not a single phone call to see how I’m doing, if I’m ok, nothing!

It’s nothing you’ve done, absolutely nothing. It happens to a lot of us, although it makes no sense, but they are the parents of one of you, not both of you.

Ledkr · 02/08/2019 08:17

Blood is thicker than water.
My ex,'s family saw him beat me up a few times but when we split they treated me as if I was some kind of monster.
I saw his sister a while back and she said "it's all water under the bridge" HE HAD FRACTURED MY SKULL FFS.
Just be glad you have left 😊

ColdAndSad · 02/08/2019 08:27

My ex,'s family saw him beat me up a few times but when we split they treated me as if I was some kind of monster. I saw his sister a while back and she said "it's all water under the bridge" HE HAD FRACTURED MY SKULL FFS.

That's awful, Ledkr. I am so sorry. I hope you're ok now, and that you never have to see him again.

You are still extremely vulnerable because you’re still desperate for him to be someone other than he actually is. You are real in danger of taking him back if he temporarily changed his approach by not being a pig for five minutes.

Don't worry about this. I see him very clearly now. I wish he could be a better person, because our children are finding this all so difficult: but I know that he chooses not to be, and that's another strike against him.

There's a lot I've missed out of my posts here, for obvious reasons: I've found out all sorts of things that he's done, and the thought of even being in the same room as him now horrifies me.

Once everything is resolved I'll post the full story here and I tell you: you'll all be amazed. It's like a soap opera crossed with a horror story.

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Cambionome · 02/08/2019 08:52

Find a really good solicitor - ask around for recommendations if you can - and then stand absolutely firm.

You have done nothing wrong.
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