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DH refusing to return from holiday with DCs

19 replies

Quandryquandry · 28/07/2019 12:53

Posting for a friend (again!). DH has become increasingly irrational and verbally abusive over the last few weeks due to extreme stress. DF is due to return early from holiday overseas due to work commitments, but now feels DH is not in a fit state to look after the DCs on his own for the rest of the holiday. If he refuses to let her bring the DCs back with her what can she do? Call the local British Embassy? Get a court order in the UK? Miss work (but might lose her job)?

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MrsMop7 · 28/07/2019 12:58

I can't make head not tail of that 🤷‍♀️

Gruzinkerbell1 · 28/07/2019 13:01

Your friend and her H are on holiday abroad with their kids.

He’s irrational and abusive.

Original plan was for just your friend to return home early for work whilst her family remained abroad, but in light of her H’s behaviour she wants to bring the children with her.

If he refuses then she’d like to know her options...correct?

MsJaneAusten · 28/07/2019 13:01

If the dc are his and he has parental responsibility, i don’t think there’s anything she can do. Stay out there with them? Convince him to come home early too?

Comps83 · 28/07/2019 13:02

So they’re both on holiday with their dc. She has to cut holiday short due to work but she doesn’t trust him with the dc and wants to bring them home with her and thinks he might refuse to let her take them home while he continues the holiday .

Teaandchocolatecake · 28/07/2019 13:06

Doesn’t make much sense.

Your friend husband has been abusive and is looking after their children whilst your friend (their Mum) is overseas on holiday?

Your friend is returning from holiday early to go back to work but doesn’t want her husband to look after the children for the remainder of the holidays?

Where does she want to take the children back to? Does she want to take them back overseas where she’s just been on holiday?

spacedone · 28/07/2019 13:58

Which country are they in? Who has their passports?

rightteous · 28/07/2019 14:04

Sorry but you need to explain the situation more clearly. What is their country of residence. When are they due to return to the uk. Do they have return flights booked? Why doesn’t she just put them in a taxi and return to the uk if that’s where everybody normally lives? Very weird

PicsInRed · 28/07/2019 14:08

If it's just a holiday, why couldn't she simply bring the children home? Unless there's a dual national and/or residence issue?

Was it a long "holiday" in a country they have significant ties to/citizenship of?

KTara · 28/07/2019 14:48

Where are the children resident? If your friend is bringing the children home to their normal place of residence, I do not think she can be done for abduction. I am not a solicitor though.

Doyoumind · 28/07/2019 14:55

Generally, she can just leave with them. He can try and stop her but has no right to. She can't force him to let her go. It does depend where they are and where they are returning to though.

If he has been threatening, she could report him to the police.

Quandryquandry · 28/07/2019 15:22

They’re all on holiday together in Europe. Their normal place of residence is the UK and that’s where they’d be returning to. Anyone with personal experience of this?

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Chloemol · 28/07/2019 15:30

If she is bringing them home to the house they live in in in this country I don’t see a problem.

Gruzinkerbell1 · 28/07/2019 15:50

Maybe post in legal for advice? I would have thought that she’s well within her right to bring her children home to their normal place of residence, but I’m not a solicitor.

SagAloojah · 28/07/2019 16:22

Didn’t get the OP either but from @Gruzinkerbell1 said, why can’t she just go to the airport with the kids? Does he have the passports?

PicsInRed · 28/07/2019 16:48

Are they citizens or connected in any way to the country they're visiting?

If not, I have zero idea why your friend doesn't just take the kids to the airport. It's a holiday. They're coming home early. There's no Hague Convention issues here that I can see.

YourSarcasmIsDripping · 28/07/2019 17:00

Would he object at her bringing the kids home early?
Is he a resident of the country they are in?

Unless he shows up at the airport and makes a huge fuss, she should have no issues,as she is returning the kids to their country of residence after what can be proved as a holiday.
Has she bought them return tickets yet?

SavingSpaces2019 · 28/07/2019 22:25

so who's going to look after the kids in the UK whilst she's at work?

TitianaTitsling · 29/07/2019 18:59

Was the plan for her to come back early for work? If not can her work really be punitive if she doesnt come back early at their request?

TheFlis12345 · 29/07/2019 19:02

Is her concern that he will get aggressive and physically prevent her from taking the children? If so I would call the police.

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