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Calling all Narcissist experts - I need your help

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boosterrooster · 27/07/2019 22:10

Please share all of your advice and tips on living with Narcs without losing your mind. If that's even possible!

I'll try to keep this short but no promises;

MIL is a grade A, stereotypical Narc. The queen bee matriarch who can do no wrong.

SIL is what I believe to be a vulnerable Narc (life's victim, suffers from depression and has threatened harming herself in the past)

They're joint at the hip. I'm the only other female in the family, I'm their target it seems....and I'm stuck with them.

They will "give it, but they won't take it" in terms of criticism, blatantly look down on me, make fun of me and my family and my friends, insult me directly and indirectly, are passive aggressive and don't respect me as a mother. SIL seems to deliberately try to hurt my feelings sometimes with personal remarks or will ignore me for months and even blocked me on social media for no apparent reason.

They make me feel like a surrogate type figure who merely carried their DGC/DN for 9 months. My health and wellbeing throughout pregnancy, and including a rather traumatic birth, was irrelevant to them. They didn't even congratulate me on the pregnancy, just commented on how happy they were that DH was going to be a father. MIL then acted like it was her own achievement when I had DC1.

I have noticed that when other people are around such as a neighbor who had popped in or a relative is visiting, they will shower me with attention as if to give the impression that we have a good relationship. So SIL will have ignored me when I walked in but if a neighbor were to then pop in, she's all over me, asking how I am, asking after my family etc. but could then ignore me again for weeks. I am very well liked by their extended families - aunts, cousins etc. so they kind of play along and pretend they like me too while those people are around. Sounds absurd, I know!

They look down on everyone, not just me. Which does sometimes make me feel somewhat better. MIL was wild with jealousy when her nephew got a better degree than BIL for example. If anyone they know has been successful or is doing well in anyway, they simply cannot be happy for them. Likewise if someone is unwell or going through a trauma, they don't seem to be able to care or show any concern or empathy for that person, and will instead turn the conversation back around to themselves. So an uncle recently broke his leg badly and needed surgery and without a flicker of concern, MIL starts talking about the time she broke her wrist and was signed off work - that type of thing.

I am using mild examples as other examples would be outing!

DH does try, he will stick up for me but as SIL apparently suffers from depression, DH walks on eggshells with her and lets her away with it most of the time. He will confront MIL if a comment is made in front of him but she just turns on the water works and somehow ends up being the wounded party so we agreed he wouldn't bother any more as it was a waste of time him trying.

I am hoping to find a way of tolerating them without feeling like utter crap. I get really anxious when we have to spend time with them and have sleepless nights mulling over things they've said or done. I would also love for them to know that I am "on to them" in a way and that I'm aware of how they see me...and ideally, get the message across that I am an actual person with feelings who doesn't deserve to be treated the way that I am.

Any advice would be welcome Thanks

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TheInebriati · 27/07/2019 22:31

When you say that you want them to see you as an actual person, it shows they have hooked you. And that you aren't really on to them, because you are still trying to fix the relationship.
Accept that is impossible.
If you are going to maintain contact then for your own sanity you have to learn to not care about what they say, what they do, and how they feel. There has to be an emotional distance between you and them. Nothing can affect you.

Look at The Karpman Drama Triangle, and spend your time trying to analyse who is in what position instead of getting dragged in. In time you'll be able to play a game where you predict who will make the next move and what it will be.
curiosity.com/topics/to-avoid-drama-you-need-to-break-the-karpman-drama-triangle-curiosity/

lasttimeround · 27/07/2019 22:44

Narcs cant see you as a person, they are narcs. You are their prop. You will have to let that go.
There's lots of good resources out there to help you figure that out and decide how you will deal with it. Stately Homes thread lists some. I'd also recommend kris godinez on YouTube.
Your choices are basically grey rock or no contact but you cant do either if you are hoping they will change

boosterrooster · 28/07/2019 09:12

Thank you both very much

I'll get stuck in to reading what you've suggested

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ems137 · 28/07/2019 09:24

My husband is a narcissist and my advice to you is that you will never ever win. They feed off the knowledge that they're getting to you or getting any kind of reaction. I would just go totally no contact with them, do you really want this awful attitude around your children?

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1 · 28/07/2019 09:51

Another one here who agrees you have to go no contact with a narcissist. Can I ask why you socialise with them?

boosterrooster · 28/07/2019 11:10

@ems137 no I'd rather not expose my children to this type of behavior but it's their aunt & grandmother so feel I can't completely cut ties at the moment but I'm working on it.

@NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1 I keep contact to be bare minimum and avoid them where possible but do have to see them at special occasions etc. I hope to gradually and subtlety reduce all interaction that I have with them and have DH bring the kids to see them without me there, and keep doing that until it becomes the norm.

Thanks both, feedback appreciated!

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Aussiebean · 28/07/2019 11:35

Never be left along with them ever.

And don’t let dh leave your kids alone with them. Because that’s when the ‘oh mummy is so mean isn’t she?’ Will come out.

That’s if you trust him to stop that kind of thing.

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