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Was this an abusive relationship ?

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French189 · 27/07/2019 08:13

Not sure if it could be classed as one or if was just a massive prick. It ended a couple of years ago now but I think there have been some residual issues from it sadly. I've had some therapy sessions to try and improve my confidence.

It was long-distance, he was in France and I was here (we had met on my Erasmus year). It seemed to get worse with time
The first thing was that I had been a little upset over something one night, but I didn't want him to see. We were in bed and I had some tears coming down my cheeks and I ended up admitting what I was upset about. He said I was being silly and slapped my face, and then tried to console me. I suppose at the time I thought the slap had been meant just as a joke.

We actually met as I was a language assistant at his FE college where he was a student. We were all the same age, but our relationship had to be a secret he said, for the first few months, as he knew 'people would say stuff.'

He came to my parents' house in England. One night, we were in my room and he came across an old diary I had had when I'd been about 16. As you tend to do at that age, I had written a lot of embarrassing stuff. I didnt want him to read it but he demanded to and then became aggresive about it. I ended up ripping out these pages that were the 'most embarrassing' and let him read the rest. When he found that out he said he wondered "what else I was lying about".

He had a close female friend who he had been interested in before me. He told me she was 'boring as hell" and then said she was an' asshole' for getting back with her ex. Then called her a few other names ; it was pretty clear he was bitter she had not chosen him. Anyway, he invited her over one night to his 'as a friend' but initially hid the fact that it was her.

Then, after a few months it got nastier. I had bad acne at the time. Id introduced him to my uni friends one day and he later said he had been "embarrassed to be seen with me because of my skin". He would make up stories that he had slept with his female friends and that they fancied him, then would later admit it was just lies.

He started to make fun of my looks, and once told me that I needed a ton of surgery to 'look pretty'. He started to insult me verbally on a daily basis; scream and swear at me, saying I was stupid, clumsy and couldn't do anything right, that I was like a child.

He would scream that I looked like a lesbian with my short hair, and made me get rid of clothes he did not like, even if I liked them. He tried to isolate me from my family and guilt tripped me if I went home at xmas, for example.

Once, I opened a packet of cheese the wrong way and he screamed that I was a 'fucking idiot'. On another occasion, I accidentally woke him up from his nap and he started screaming that I was a "fucking bitch, that I was nothing".

He smoked weed on a daily basis (I know) and I think he had issues related to his family. One day he screamed at me "i'm going to smash your fucking face in". I left a note telling him to sort himself out, and left. Id book into hotels to get away (no family over there) but he would end up changing and acting nice for a few weeks.

If we had argued, he would physically shove me out of the door, and once when angry he deliberately lit a lighter in my face.
He would let me pay for most stuff despite earning much more than me, and would tell me daily that I was boring, embarrassing and that people did not want to know me.

In the end, he started having an emotional affair (then later cheating) with his colleague from work. Within a week of us being properly over they were together. I still lived with him, and went away for the weekend and came back to used condoms, and the girl's underwear and toothbrush lying around.

I told them both exactly what they were, and eventually found another place to stay. In the end, I got an apology from him, and what is crazy is that he tried to then cheat on her with me.
His own best friend didn't speak to him for a few weeks and even his Mother told me I had been far too good for him.

I have had zero contact with him for a long time. He was nice as pie after all that but I feel like I have not fully regained my confidence even today. Has anyone else had similar situations ? How do you fully recover from stuff like this ? Thank you.

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French189 · 27/07/2019 08:23

One night he took me for a drink 'as a friend' maybe out of guilt, and then when we got back 'still had to live together' he started telling me to take his clothes off and being very sexually aggressive when he was drunk. He then told me he had 'only prétended to cry' when his Grandma had died and that he was a sociopath. (I know he had issues).
Anyway, in the end he told me "you were always too good for me and I couldnt handle it."

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category12 · 27/07/2019 08:29

Yes, it was abusive. You could try the Freedom programme and look for a counsellor, (preferably one with good understanding of domestic abuse situations).

category12 · 27/07/2019 08:43

Also, sorry you went through that Flowers

French189 · 27/07/2019 09:16

I will definitely have a look at the Freedom program. Thank you 🌺 :)

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Dotplot · 27/07/2019 15:27

Hi @French189 this is the first time I have ever commented on a forum and it's because I relate deeply with your story. He sounds like a narcissist. An abusive relationship doesn't have to be physical, psycholgical abuse is just as bad. It most definitely takes time to rebuild and nice forward. I was in a relationship with someone who was no where near as bad as your ex and still a few years down the line I'm rebuilding my confidence. You can do it. Don't let him win. Easier said than done i know. Keep your chin up. You deserve inner peace xx

user1476887480 · 27/07/2019 18:13

This is pretty black and white. He is a narcissist. It's difficult when you are it as these people are charming but they manipulate the truth and fabricate things to suit themselves and it is always about them and what they can get. He doesn't love or care for anyone. You are a chess piece and he doesn't care if you stay or go because there will always be others and he always keeps his options open.

Yes you were abused. You must severe all contact with this person. He will never change and will only ever want to harm you for his own crazy reasons. He is not normal but abusive.
The past is what it is but you are lucky to be free of this man. Go find yourself and do they things that make you you. You deserve the best and go grt it. This guy Matthew Hussey is great at reminding women of their worth whilst dating so maybe try that. I know it's hard but there is nothing wrong with you. You need to love yourself and remind yourself daily of 5 things you like about yourself. It will take time but you have already done the hardest thing. Go you!!!

Inkyfngrs · 28/07/2019 00:26

So sorry to hear you had to go through this. It was most definitely an abusive relationship and you're lucky to be out of it now. They always get worse over time, as you discovered.

The book that helped me understand and come to terms with what had happened is "Why does he do that?" by Lundy Bancroft. That book saved my life. Maybe it would help process your relationship too? And please look into the Freedom programme too, it's well worth doing. You realise just how similar the perpetrator behaviour patterns are, you stop feeling so alone.

Good luck OP, you're doing very well to be processing through it all and dealing with it all. Onwards and upwards! Xx

Jaffacakesaremyfave · 28/07/2019 00:43

French this was 100% an abusive relationship and I am so sorry you have had to go through this. He is most certainly a narcissist and its interesting he described himself as a sociopath because an element of sociopathy is narcissism.

I've unfortunately had a similar relationship with my exH (who was also I believe a socipath/psychopath) and he did everything you describe and more.

This kind of abuse is very hard to heal from but not impossible, it just takes some work to process what has happened to you. Have you ever considered trauma counselling? Many victims of this type of abuse end up with PTSD because it is so traumatic.

What has really helped me heal is learning about narcissism so that I can understand the motives behind it. When you have been in these relationships, you are often left feeling that there is something wrong with you, that you are broken and defective in some way and with virtually no self esteem left. What's really sad is that the only reason this person treated you so badly is that they are defective themselves and have crippling self loathing and shame. The insults and bad treatment had absolutely nothing to do with you and everything to do what is wrong with them.

I've found YouTube videos about this topic really helpful in processing it all. Also understanding what made me susceptible to a relationship like this because you have to take ownership of the fact that you stayed when the first red flags became apparent (as many women who are healthy would have walked away).

Learning to love yourself again after an experience like this is a journey not so important to do to move on and have a happy life in the future. It also helps to stop you from entering another abusive relationship in the future as women who have been abused are more vulnerable to subsequent abusive relationships (as I did)

French189 · 28/07/2019 09:35

Hi, thank you so much for the thoughtful replies ! I will definitely take on board all of the advice/programs suggested. It's true it does take time to heal from, and I am so sorry to learn that others have been in similar relationships.
A specialist counsellor as others have suggested would be a very good idea.

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