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DSS and his employment troubles and the fall-out

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RocknRollSpookShow · 24/07/2019 13:15

DSS (almost 19) dropped out of college a year ago. Since then he has had a few labouring jobs, all of which I (his stepmother, he lives with his mother) have found for him via local FB pages. He hasn’t yet had to search or apply for any jobs himself as I have found them and the employer has taken him on after a quick phone call each time.

Each job has ended increasingly nastily, the first one DSS just called in sick one day and then ghosted the man, the second one DSS ended up in a big argument and quit, this ended up with things being said on social media with my name brought up as his ‘parent’. The most recent one the employer was a bit of a bully and it came to a head with DSS not turning up for work on the first day of a big job. The most recent employer had my details on FB (where I had passed the phone number along), and his wife began messaging constantly and angrily about my stepson and his mother, who I don’t know. It became quite harassing really and I struggled with really bad anxiety for 48 hours straight last week because I was worried about them turning up to our house (they dropped his wages off here once).

I am a child of an alcoholic and have recently recognised my people-pleasing, conflict avoidant, ‘fixing’ tendencies and was able to recognise that I was being triggered to please and ‘fix’ these situations for my stepson but it was beginning to cause a lot of stress. Plus DH and I agreed that it was enabling DSS to not get out there and seek his own jobs.

However, today, DH has proudly called me on his lunch break to say that he was speaking to someone at work and they should be able to give DSS a new labouring position. We have had an argument about it because I feel like DH is oblivious to the anxiety it has caused. Plus if it goes wrong we will be embroiled in the feud again as it is people DH knows.

DH just wants to help his son, i understand that, but would it be so wrong to let him stand on his own two feet this time?

I feel like I have tried to set a boundary for the first time, no more getting involved in DSS’s employment life, but it feels like DH has immediately breached the boundary by embroiling us in it again (and it will be very hard for me to stay out of it because when these jobs go sour that’s all they talk about).

I know it probably sounds like a silly situation, but it feels very big to me. I feel like I’m not really over the situation last week with the angry messages and now we are going headlong into it all over again. I feel quite panicked! Does anyone have any advice, particularly if you are a codependent type yourself?

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Mermaidsinthesand · 24/07/2019 13:39

What's your stepson mother doing about this?

Sometimes you cant help people who wont help themselves, I'd encourage him to go back to college or take on an apprenticeship but dont make it your job to find these things for him, he seriously needs to grow up and fast not having his arse wiped by you or your DH

RocknRollSpookShow · 24/07/2019 13:44

Thank you, his mum is leaving him to his own devices which is probably the best thing actually. He does not want to go back to college and would struggle to get an apprenticeship as he didn’t get the GCSEs required (even though we paid for a lot of tutoring and ferried him about so he could attend the tutor). You are right that we have been wiping his arse for too long. I have reached that conclusion but DH makes all the right noises then just carries on.

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Aquamarine1029 · 24/07/2019 13:45

Your dss needs to work out his own affairs. He has had several opportunities that were handed to him on a silver platter, yet he missed them away. Time for him to wake up and stop having his arse wiped by mummy and daddy. Tell your busy your days of "helping" are over.

PuppyMonkey · 24/07/2019 13:50

I think it sounds like he’s tried the “labouring” thing and it isn’t really for him. I wouldn’t bother telling him about the new one DH has heard about. DSS needs to work out his own plans now.

RocknRollSpookShow · 24/07/2019 14:16

Thanks all, I agree with you but DH doesn’t see this point of view. Well, he makes all the right noises but then does the enabling thing anyway. He just says that it’s easier to find him a job than have DSS looking for cash handouts from us. I said he could just say No when asked for cash!

I have been guilty of enabling him in the past but now I am trying to break these habits. I just need to try and find a way to shield myself from the inevitable fall out when it goes wrong next time.

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Aquamarine1029 · 24/07/2019 14:27

Shield yourself by refusing to have any part in it. You will not help find him a job, you will not speak to anyone regarding your dss, nothing. Tell your husband any fallout will land squarely in his lap.

Mermaidsinthesand · 24/07/2019 15:15

Giving him money will only make this worse. Your DH has to support you on this, not keep the merry go round going. I appreciate its difficult for him, he may not see it yet but you will have to put your foot down and say no more

Bananalanacake · 24/07/2019 15:57

his mum should be charging him rent. if he doesn't want to pay he can live in a flat share.

AgentJohnson · 25/07/2019 07:24

You don’t have to do anything. Let your H do his thing and when it blows up in his face, let him deal with the consequences.

It sounds like there appears to be very poor boundaries all round and that this has massively contributed to the rudderless 18 year old you have before you. You are all waiting for him to be the person he is I’ll equipped to be. The person that his parents haven’t equipped him to be

The line between being supportive and enabling isn’t as thin as you think.

Aussiebean · 25/07/2019 11:33

You have set your boundary and won’t help
Him any more (good for you)

But your dh hasn’t set that boundary. It reads very much like you think you and your dh are one unit. Your not though. You have made a good decision, but your dh is going to have to learn this one on his own.

If there is any blow black on you personally, say it had nothing to do with you and direct them to your husband.

If your dh gets blow back. Say you warned him and he needs to sort it.

Step away from this and hopefully your dh will do the same soon.

LatentPhase · 25/07/2019 18:04

Well done OP for setting a boundary. The reason you feel anxious is that now your dh who is your partner in crime isn’t on the same page and now it feels you’re all at sea with your new boundary. Hold fast. Just breathe... you’re doing brill.

Step back from this now. If these are mutual friends say ‘this is nothing to do with me’ and direct them to dh. Not your circus, not your monkeys.

DSS and DH now both have to be making their own mistakes. Be sympathetic for them both but let them get on with it and make their own mess. Hopefully they will both learn.

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