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Should I end my marriage after only 2 months?

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Jolene88 · 18/07/2019 09:15

I can't actually believe I'm writing this, but I need to get it out. I feel like I'm going insane.

I've been married only 2 months and beginning to think I've made a terrible mistake. I have just turned 39 and my other half is 44. We have been TTC for almost 2 years but starting to get really serious now and considering IVF. One of my issues is the lack of support from my OH (other half). I have been researching, reading, buying supplements, cleaning up my diet, getting regular acupuncture and fertility massage,buying pre-seed, ovulation tests, you name it I've done it. However I feel like I'm in it totally on my own. OH barely shows any interest in it, gets annoyed when I ask him to start eating healthier, doesn't do any of the hard work. It leaves me feeling so lonely as we decided not to share the TTC journey with anyone else. OH already has a daughter from a previous relationship and I get the sense that due to that, he does not want this as much as me and it breaks my heart. Feels like a battle I'm pretty much fighting on my own.

Aside from all that, since we got married, I have barely seen him. He's taken up golf in a BIG way and plays at least 3 or 4 nights a week and also weekends. I usually work on an evening and of course I don't mind him having a hobby, as I know how healthy it is, but it's like he's checked out of the marriage already and is just obsessed with the golf. Because he's out so much, he's stopped doing any jobs around the house such as cleaning, which he used to help with, which means I'm doing it all myself, as well as working full time and TTC. Then on a weekend, we barely see each other. I asked him to cancel one day last weekend and reluctantly he did, but made me feel like I should be eternally grateful for it, which made me feel awful!

Another issue is money. He's terrible with it. He seems to have a lot of debt and never has enough to do anything or go anywhere. This had improved significantly before the wedding, however he now seems to be using the wedding as an excuse for having no money again. For example, if I want to go anywhere or do anything, he says he cant afford it as he's broke after paying for the wedding, so if we want to go I have to end up paying. He's not aid a penny towards the honeymoon, I've had to pay his share. We talked for ages about buying a house after we got married, and whilst I can afford it as I'm good at budgeting and saving, he's telling me he won't be able to for a couple of years now! He has a good job and makes a decent wage so I find it hard to understand. It sometimes feels as though he's holding me back.

The final straw happened last night. I had taken a night off work due to feeling unwell. He was out playing golf. I had asked him earlier to remember to feel the cat. He called me on his way home (not knowing I was at home myself) to say 'Don't worry, I fed the cat'. I asked him when and he said 20 minutes ago. I told him I had been sat at home all evening. He then backtracked and told me I'd mis-heard him, and he'd actually said he would be home in 20 minutes to feed the cat. This was an absolute lie, I know exactly what he said. When he finally got home, he changed his story and said he knew I was at home as he'd driven past and seen my car, and decided to tell me he'd fed the cat as a joke! I repeatedly asked him why he'd lied to me, he then got annoyed at me saying I cant take a joke, and is now not speaking to me! I feel like he was trying to gaslight me which is a form of abuse!

Today I realise I feel so lonely, isolated and unhappy. We are newlyweds and should be on cloud 9, but I feel like running away. Surely it shouldn't be like this?

My biggest problem is that I am DESPERATE to have a baby. Despite these issues, he's a good father to his DD and if I leave, I cant see how I would ever meet anyone and be be ale o have a child du to my age, and that thought is enough to make me suicidal! My life won't be complete until I hav a baby. I just don't know what to do.

OP posts:
1300cakes · 18/07/2019 11:07

It sounds grim at the moment for sure but if you have been TTC for two years, I'm assuming you have been together for 3-4 years at least and were happy enough to get married. Now you've been unhappy for 8 weeks. That isn't long by comparison, surely most couples go through weeks and even months of bad patches especially in stressful circumstances such as infertility.

I think the recent marriage makes these things seem worse right now. I had a similar thing when I first married, something that I would have shrugged off as a minor annoyance before now made me quite depressed - as it would make me think about how I'm stuck with this particular annoyance forever. Maybe before, I subconsciously thought we could break up at some point.

Its a fact of life that as a women who wants children, the partner you choose to date for 4 years + in your late thirties will be the one you have children with, if anybody. You've made your bed, don't let post marriage jitters stop you from lying in it.

VenusTiger · 18/07/2019 11:13

@MMmomDD I agree totally. I really do get fed up of people saying leave him, when it’s completely unjustified. As I said in my pp, for all we know, her DH has had enough of all the stress and instead of arguing or falling out with her about it, he’s out playing golf which is actually very relaxing. It may be that, as I said, he’s not enjoying this part of ttc as it can become so overbearing and stressful.

hellsbellsmelons · 18/07/2019 11:14

@Senoritaforever
As you can see from my previous post, my friend did exactly that.
She has a wonderful boy now and he's fabulous.
She's thriving as a single mother and loving every minute of it.
What are you insinuating the issues might be?

hellsbellsmelons · 18/07/2019 11:14

when it’s completely unjustified
Eh? Did you read the same thread as me?

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 18/07/2019 11:22

when it’s completely unjustified

Um... he's lying, avoiding her, not supporting her, not doing his fair share around the house, in debt but spending loads of money on golf...

The OP says she feels lonely, isolated and unhappy

But her wanting to leave is completely unjustified?

FriarTuck · 18/07/2019 11:22

It may be that, as I said, he’s not enjoying this part of ttc as it can become so overbearing and stressful.
This ^^. He just wants to have sex and end up with a baby, instead he's being told about what he eats, presumably when he can have sex and it's taken the fun and pleasure out of it.

Zaphodsotherhead · 18/07/2019 11:30

Have you sat him down and asked him why he married you? And no, 'because I love you' isn't good enough.

It's almost as though now he knows he's 'got' you, he doesn't have to worry, he takes up a time consuming hobby, slips backwards in his attitude to money, isn't bothered about TTC - how was he about these things in the months leading up to getting married? Or did he take up golf the second the ring was on your finger?

In other words, did he marry to have a sex-maid who couldn't easily leave him?

TeaForTheWin · 18/07/2019 11:36

Actually can't believe there are people saying to stay with him. He is a nasty peace of work and...golf? Are you sure you believe this? Because either he is so addicted to this that he doesn't give a shit about lying to you and gaslighting you and feeding the cat. OR there's something else going on... ...and he still doesn't give a shit about gaslighting you or feeding your cat.

Sorry but, at the first sign of gaslighting i'm off running. Lived with a man for a year that did it and by the end I was a wreck. Nothing is worth that risk.

As for the whole baby thing? Have you thought about why you are so desperate for a baby that you would even considerer putting yourself in the position of staying with a man who, doesn't seem to give a shit about you? Because in my opinion that is not the correct headspace for having a baby. If you were to have the child with him you will be sooooo lonely because having a young child can be so isolating as is. Same goes as a single mother perhaps but at least you will have the drive to get about it yourself, rather than waiting on someone - only for them to prove time n time again that they just don't care.

Get yourself out. If you still want a kid a year or so down the line there are plenty of options. YOU a real, current being (not a hypothetical being) matter most. And if you don't feel that way, if you don't value yourself enough to protect yourself from bullshit people, don't have kids yet. Because you will only pass that disposition on to them. Sorry to be harsh, but that's how it is.

StartingToMakeSense · 18/07/2019 11:37

@Senoritaforever of course it's not an easy option but it is another option that OP can consider since he doesn't sound like he offers much support in other aspects of their lives either. She has asked for opinions and advice. Having a baby isn't easy even with a supportive partner. She's in a better position financially than her H and emotional support can be found from family and friends. If she has no family or friends to support her then what's the difference with having a baby with an unsupportive partner? Only the OP can really weigh the pros and cons of the marriage and decide which road to follow.

TeaForTheWin · 18/07/2019 11:39

And heads up - normal people do not gaslight, disordered people do. Run!

threelittlerapscallions · 18/07/2019 11:40

Could you leave him and foster/adopt a child? Maybe the fertility issue is his fault? I know is really hard when you so much want to have a child but do you want him as the father?

Musti · 18/07/2019 11:49

I'm not sure. I understand from his pow how your whole life seems to be ruled by ttc. He may want a break from it and just enjoy life. You've had the stress of getting married and wedding planning and now the whole thing about getting pregnant.

I think you should take a step back. Try and enjoy your life together as a couple and I'm sure golf won't be so attractive to him. Think about getting tested and going down the ivf route.

snowy0wl · 18/07/2019 11:52

I'm surprised by the number of people advising OP to leave and become a single parent by a donor. Unless she has a very strong, supportive network of family and friends this will be a very stressful situation to put herself in. She will have no financial backup (the husband will have no legal obligation to financially support her) and she will still have the trauma of going through divorce proceedings which, unless "unreasonable behaviour" or adultery can be proved, will take 2-3 years.

I'm not advising the OP to stay (especially if she is genuinely unhappy) but please consider the realities of the alternative advice being offered.

Is marriage counselling an option to help understand the underlying reasons for why things have turned sour so quickly? Presumably you were very happy when you got married two months ago.

PicsInRed · 18/07/2019 11:53

Also you loved him enough to marry him two months ago. Surely he hasn’t changed that much in 8 weeks.

Marriage is one of the key life events which are known to trigger or exacerbate abuse.

The change in behaviour can be immediate, stark and horrifying.

It's thought that increasingly dependency, "trappedness" and a sense of increased ownership over the (often) woman is the reason for the timing.

TowelNumber42 · 18/07/2019 11:55

At least start investigating how using a sperm donor works. Find out the facts. Properly visit clinics etc.

Then make your decision.

If he's terrible with money then divorcing sooner rather than later is probably best, if divorce is what you decide to do.

TowelNumber42 · 18/07/2019 11:55

It sounds like you will effectively be a single parent no matter what you choose.

TwentyEight12 · 18/07/2019 12:50

Not everyone is best equipped at knowing how to handle stresses. Sometimes, the things we expect another person to do or be, just aren’t what they can or want to deliver us. Is it possible that he is of the notion ‘if it happens, it happens’? Whereas as you are of the notion ‘I will do whatever it takes to make it happen’? Neither are wrong, but they are opposing ways in which to look at the same issue. I think I am much more like you, I’m all about facing an issue head on and problem-solving it, but I know others (men) who are of the persuasion that it will all just work itself out in the end. This of course is infuriating to the other intimate partner who wants to get to their destination as quickly as possible and not spend a lifetime dawdling on the journey to get there.

If he is spending a significant amount of time being physically and/or emotionally absent from your home and relationship, I personally feel he is signifying ‘I am not very happy right now’. Many people escape when they feel overwhelmed. I’m not saying that it’s right or ok, but his actions read to me like he’s saying without saying that there is a problem.

VenusTiger · 18/07/2019 13:04

Thank you @FriarTuck - we’ve heard a tiny snippet of how the OP is feeling, how her life is being literally suffocated by wanting to conceive, which is totally relatable and reasonable is her circumstances, but we’ve also only heard the bad bits of her very young marriage, of course some people are going to say LTB - it’s some fine editing - but, it’s so important that OP talks to her DH and offers to back off with the ttc stress. I really do think it’s the reason he’s out of the house a lot... he’s not off with mates getting drunk, he’s playing golf, it’s a relaxing and leisurely sport, it really says it all to me.

Also, why would you ask him to feed the cat if you’re in the house?

None of us knows why DH is acting the way he is. None of us knows if he’s perhaps putting some money away for baby or for pension or savings. The OP doesn’t even know. OP, talk to your new husband. Communicate with him. Yes, listen to advice from us, but you need to ask him if this ttc is getting to much for him, ask him where all his earnings ARE actually going.

WomanLikeMeLM · 18/07/2019 13:12

You knew all his flaws before you married him @Jolene88

Nautiloid · 18/07/2019 13:18

I was thinking 'give it a chance' until the part about the cat. That has made me lean towards cut and run.

readitandwept · 18/07/2019 13:22

@WomanLikeMeLM

Eh? Even if that was true, does it mean she should never decide she actually does deserve better?

WhatTheWatersShowedMe · 18/07/2019 13:29

He is not a good man. He is also not "your last chance to have children" Hmm. It sounds like now he's got his feet well and truly under the table and you're legally bound to him he doesn't feel like he has to make any sort of effort in any way. The lying is another massive concern.

Get all the paperwork together, file for divorce and have your fertility checked. You can then explore other options for having a child without being tied to a fucking cockwomble.

GrabbyGertie · 18/07/2019 13:31

If you aren’t sure you want to be with him then I think it would be truly awful and deceitful to use him to get pregnant. If you have reservations about the relationship then you need to address those first and either sort things out or leave. Using him a a sperm donor when you think you will leave him would be despicable.

I’m sorry you are in this position though. Have you considered counseling? I would struggle with the lying. That was a pathetic thing of him to do.

MashedSpud · 18/07/2019 13:31

Golf sometimes six nights a week? If you believe that you’ll believe anything.

Get rid of this selfish knob. Get a sperm donor because that’s all this guy will be. You’ll be bringing the child up alone anyway.

Winterlife · 18/07/2019 13:42

Perhaps his taking up golf is his way to alleviate the stress of IVF.

I’m almost two decades older than you. In your shoes, if I knew I could afford to raise a child alone, I would stay with him while trying to get pregnant. If things don’t work out, I at least would have my child.