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Give me strength, please

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GameChanger18 · 14/07/2019 07:58

My ExP is coming down to see our DC (under 1yr) today and messaged me last night to say today he wanted to discuss us coming home. I have told him serveral times the relationship is over and we aren’t coming back, I’ve told him, emailed him, text him and still her persists. He was emotionally abusive and subtly controlling during our relationship.

We do now live an hour and a half from the ex, this is because of his controlling ways, because I had absolutely no support where we lived (I mean literally 0) and i hadnt been living in the area long enough to qualify for social housing.

Please help give me stength to continue to stand up to this bully. I constantly go through fearful moments where I think he’ll take me to court in order to move our young DC back to the area he resides in, but I know I can’t back down now or give him any reason to think we are coming back.

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LIZS · 14/07/2019 07:59

Is there anyone who could be there with you, or could you meet elsewhere in public, not at home.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 14/07/2019 08:07

Do not meet this man anywhere but a public place, certainly not your current residence and if you can have someone else with you so much the better.

He has not changed since your relationship and this is what he is really like. He is still abusive and controlling and is doing this as further punishment to you for having the gall in his eyes of actually leaving him.

He is not bothered at all about his children and I doubt very much he will take you to court for access (its just another thing such men try and use to bash you with and they do use the children as weapons). Use any and all legal means to keep him well away from you all going forward.

Please talk to Womens Aid and your local domestic violence support organisation.

coelibeely · 14/07/2019 08:10

Call Womens Aid.

Broken record technique. Have you got any support where you now live?

GameChanger18 · 14/07/2019 08:22

My DCs and I do have a lot of support where we now life. We are meeting him at my parents home but he will come in and create an atmosphere. I should probably stop that but I also don’t trust him enough to be unsupervised around DC and he has shown me before that he has little concern for their best interest just his own convience

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Ohwhataballsup · 14/07/2019 08:23

Will your parents be there?

GameChanger18 · 14/07/2019 08:27

My mum

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LIZS · 14/07/2019 08:36

Would your dm be prepared for you to go out while he visits. Maybe look into a contact centre for future.

GameChanger18 · 14/07/2019 08:38

My mum will be, yes and I do have siblings and other family members who could come here if needs be.

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MissBootyBass · 14/07/2019 09:00

OP, I am about to write you a long post. Please do not meet this man, at all. You need to be safe. You cannot guarantee this. Emotional abuse is serious and it can absolutely make you read for your emotional and physical safety. He needs to take you through court to see your child. This way you endure safety. This way you can demonstrate that you stopped contact because you did not feel it was safe. YOU do not ever have to see this man again. Nobody can force you to, and you are absolutely right not leaving your child with an abusive person.

MissBootyBass · 14/07/2019 09:10

You sound like me 4 months ago. I would really like to help you through this if you'll let me.

I was in an emotionally and psychologically controlling and abusive relationship with my ex. It is hard to see when you are in the thick of it, but much easier when you have a child together and suddenly your protective instinct kicks in.

I left after much deliberation and moved to stay with a friend. I just needed to get out, and I did! I did this with help from women's aid. If you haven't phoned them already, I really recommend them. They are quite amazing and will help you.

When I left, I phoned the health visitor and asked her to do a DASH assessment. To my surprise I came out as high risk. I thought 'he hasn't hit me, surely not!' but in hindsight, I can see clearly now that emotional abuse is just as serious and can have a profound effect on you. I really recommend opening up to your health visitor. This is really important.

This set off a chain reaction. My case was heard at a meeting called a MARAC meeting which is where lots of professionals talk about how they can keep you safe. I was panicking at this stage. What on earth would my abuser think if he found out. He's going to be so angry. He's going to go mad. It was awful, but I got through it.

I phoned the police and reported everything my ex had done to me. They listened, and took note. This was just in case he did anything unexpected. At least they had a bit of a background which would add any weight. It also meant that if anyone in the future did a Clare's law search on him, this could be disclosed. I really recommend asking the police about Clare's law. They will tell you if he has a violent or abusive background that you do not know about .

I phoned the national centre for domestic violence. They helped me to get a non-molestation order in place. If you don't know what this is, I suggest you have a look in to it. If you have evidence of his abuse (and even if you don't!) you can apply for one to protect you. The NCDV will talk you through it and put all the paperwork together for you.

Initially, I was doing everything I could to appease me ex. I was meeting him, responding politely to his abusive messages. Taking his shit. Sitting there scared whilst he played happy families with DS. He was so sweet and loving as soon as I said no to him. As soon as I didn't do what he wanted. He was still abusing me and your ex will likely continue to abuse you too.

Eventually I left my friend's house. I'm living back home with parents. 250 miles away from my ex. He's taking me to court to see DS. CAFCASS can see that I witheld access, and all the shit I've been through to protect myself. They've recommended INDIRECT CONTACT only. If I'd have continued to allow him to see DS, especially on his own or with just family members present, it's likely CAFCASS would have taken a different stance. Sadly this is how the system works sometimes. They don't always realise that people who have been abused often put themselves in harm's way to appease their abuser.

You are an amazing mum, doing what is best for your child. You have incredible courage for leaving. You are in the thick of it, and you WILL recover. Please DM me if you want to chat. I wanted to post this publicly as I think it's important that we all help each other out on here.

You got this!

GameChanger18 · 14/07/2019 17:09

Thank you everyone.

@MissBootyBass I have PMd you, only just seen your msg but thank you so much.

I got called controlling by ex because I have taken our DC from him.

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