Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Dealing with an unexpected rejection

33 replies

Wallowitzing · 11/07/2019 18:56

Last year I moved to a foreign country where I knew no one and did not speak the language. I love my new job (the reason I moved here) and I’ve worked really hard to feel at home. Part of that involved joining a church and the church choir which is one of the few places to meet English speakers my age. For the last couple of months I’ve been interested in the conductor of the choir. He arrived in the country a couple of months after me and we are part of the same friendship group ever since. Over the last few weeks we have been spending more time together without our other friends. We have gone out for dinner, gone to a museum and we usually go for a walk together after services and choir. He has been to my house for dinner and boardgames with our group of friends several times over the last few months, and he has twice come alone. I’m 30 and he is a couple of years older. We seem to have quite good chemistry but it has all been very innocent so far - lots of eye contact and casual touching, he put his arm around my shoulder when we sat together after dinner at my house, we held hands as we walked along the peer etc.

Yesterday we met up for drinks at my request. I had planned the evening intending to bring up how I feel. I had assumed he felt the same way because he seems to enjoy spending time with me. To my utter horror, he had absolutely no idea how I felt. He had assumed that we were friends and that we just spent more time together as we are the two newest arrivals in our friendship group. He is completely not interested and I am so embarrassed.

I don’t think he is likely to tell our mutual friends what happened, but some of them have already noticed that we spend a lot of time together and will be able to guess. I feel like I need to leave the choir but I can’t face the thought of trying to start my social life from scratch again. How can I cope with the awkwardness and embarrassment?

This has also been a huge hit to my confidence. I completely misread the situation and I don’t really trust my own judgement at the best of times. I feel so stupid. I think I built this up in my imagination and spent way too much time over-thinking every tiny thing so I ended up thinking it was a sign. I hadn’t realised how small the English-speaking community here is, so there is not much potential for dating because I don’t speak the local language very well yet. I am currently wallowing in self-pity and imagining that I will spend the rest of my life alone. Please help me gain some perspective!

OP posts:
Doesitevenmatternow · 11/07/2019 19:02

I have no idea why you would feel embarrassed; if anyone should, it's him! Of course you thought he was interested, he was giving strong signals. Who holds hands with the opposite sex while out for a walk? If I saw my DP holding hands with another woman, I would hit the roof.

He's either a closet homosexual or he's a weirdo who delighted in playing a stupid game with you.

Hold your head high, put distance between the pair of you and continue on as normal with the rest of the group. You have absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about.

ISmellBabies · 11/07/2019 19:08

Doesitevenmatternow absolutely hit the nail on the head. You have nothing to be embarrassed about at all. Just carry on with the rest of the group.

Justbreathing · 11/07/2019 19:10

He’s a head fucker
Steer well clear. I would say you were correct and had misread the signals.
head leaning maybe, but actually not really hand holding!!?? He knew what he was doing. Distance yourself
You’ll be fine. And if anyone gossips say, he held my hand when we used to go for walks, what was I supposed to think

Marlena1 · 11/07/2019 19:15

Why was he putting his arm around you if he had no interest?! You have nothing to be embarrassed about he gave you signs. Please don't remove yourself from your group, this will blow over.

Wallowitzing · 11/07/2019 19:19

Thank you for your replies. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who would have interpreted it this way. It makes me feel less like a teenager who got swept up in the excitement.
Doesitevenmatter I had not considered it from the perspective of "would I be ok with my partner behaving like this" before, but it actually feels more clear cut this way. We spend several hours alone together each week. He has come to my house alone for dinner twice and has taken me out to a resturant (he chose the resturant and paid if that makes a difference). None of that would be ok if he had a partner so I think it wasn't totally irrational for me to imagine that he was thinking of me as a potential partner.

OP posts:
Northernlurker · 11/07/2019 19:20

Your reaction was reasonable. He's a game player. Steer clear.

NavyBerry · 11/07/2019 19:24

What an annoying type. Shame you spent your time on him. I'd be really annoyed if I were you not embarrassed

rvby · 11/07/2019 19:30

He is a manipulator, there's no way he isnt. Hand holding is super intimate, at least in any western culture I know of, certainly any english speaking culture.

Grey rock him from now on. Be kind and polite but be confident in maintaining your distance.

MrBlueSkype · 11/07/2019 19:33

Oh yes, hello Mr Head Fuck.

You have absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about! I hope you meet more people soon OP.

PicsInRed · 11/07/2019 19:35

Move slowly away from the crazy man, OP.

Hills are that way ---->>> 🌄

BIWI · 11/07/2019 19:39

Perhaps he's gay?

Wallowitzing · 11/07/2019 19:44

There are several openly gay couples in the church and it's not the kind of church to make an issue about LGBT identities, so I don't think he is gay.
He seems so nice and normal. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I haven't had many serious relationships and I'm so bad at reading the signs. I feel like I'm going to spend the rest of my life alone at this rate.

OP posts:
Sunflower20 · 11/07/2019 19:53

Don't be embarrassed. You held hands - that alone would make 99% of people think that there's something there. WTF!!!

Justbreathing · 11/07/2019 19:55

You won’t be alone. He knows he’s been using you to boost his ego. You’ll meet other people. But my only advice in future, is if you like someone do something about it early on.
Weeds out the time wasters

SonEtLumiere · 11/07/2019 20:00

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Wallowitzing · 11/07/2019 20:10

SonEtLumiere I wish it were that easy! There is a huge cultural divide between me and the locals. It is a very poor country in comparison to the UK and many local men would date a western woman for the status, percieved easy sex, money and passport. I want a relationship which might last and I think some common cultural understandings and language are essential to that. I'm 30 so I don't want to "waste" 2 or 3 years on a fun but intentionally short-term relationship. Although at this rate I'll waste those years by being alone instead.

OP posts:
Figure8 · 11/07/2019 20:15

He loved the ego stroke.... of course he knew what he was doing. Who the hell holds hands with someone who's just a friend?

SonEtLumiere · 11/07/2019 20:30

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Moralitym1n1 · 11/07/2019 20:40

My male friends do not walk around holding hands with me.

Nor would they be putting their arm around my shoulder in anything but exceptional circumstances.

He's rather strange, who knows what his deal is.

Just keep trying your best to meet other ex pat's.

And do g be embarrassed, he's acted oddly/wrongly, not you. Say nothing about it, people love to talk.

Moralitym1n1 · 11/07/2019 20:40

*don't

nespressowoo · 11/07/2019 20:46

I had a friend like this once. He would put his arm round me, stroke my arm, hold my hand. We shared a bed a few times and held me so close, nothing happened fortunately. He was a complete head-fuck and once I got over him and I had a few boyfriends and he then realised his mistake. I'll never forgive him for it, but glad I got over him as wouldn't be with DH now.

Move on, he sounds like a bastard.

Notthetoothfairy · 11/07/2019 20:53

I would also have thought he was interested, don’t give him the satisfaction of giving up the church and choir.

ravenmum · 11/07/2019 20:56

You're not doing anything wrong and of course you read things that way. He's either up to no good or maybe has some sort of mental health issue. Your attitude should be disapproval of his leading you up the garden path.

Moralitym1n1 · 11/07/2019 21:27

many local men would date a western woman for the status, percieved easy sex, money and passport.

So glad you're wise to this too; many people are not and have had nasty experiences as a result.

Scarlettmaid · 11/07/2019 21:49

What an idiot.
To be clear, he is the idiot.
You shouldn't feel embarrassed.
Why would anyone behave like that?
I just don't get it. But the issue is his.
You shouldn't leave the choir or the friendship group.
Be polite but cold to him.
Show him you have completely moved on.
Good luck.

Swipe left for the next trending thread