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Constant thoughts about DP emotional affair

31 replies

User1298 · 03/07/2019 09:58

Hello,

I’ve been with my dp 8 years, he’s 33 and I’m 30. Mortgage but not married and no kids.

In August 18 my partner started cycling with a woman from work. By September 18 he told me she had sent him some strange text messages. When I read them, I thought they were subtley putting the feelers out for him to see if he might like her. She was single but around 15-20 years older than him. He concluded it was strange but I was reading into it and he just wanted to forget it. However I became preoccupied and wanted him to stop cycling with her. He felt this was controlling and became resentful. For the next 3 months we had huge rows, unlike anything before. I felt like he didn’t care how I felt and he felt I was controlling. I lost all perspective of the situation as I knew my dp wasn’t interested in her, had been honest with me and hadn’t done anything wrong. I just didn’t like the fact he wouldn’t stop seeing her “for me”. He did stop though because winter came. By Christmas we had stopped arguing.

In January 19 I found out that he had met a new co-worker in November in the midst of all our arguments. She worked on the same floor in a large open plan office, but not in the same team so their paths would not naturally meet. They met on a training day and spent lunch together and two other people they knew and the 4 of them went for a walk. A few days later my dp saw her in the kitchen and got chatting. He asked if she wanted to go for a walk with him as he was just off to go for a walk (he would walk into the local town most days). She said yes so the two of them went for a walk. A few days after that he sent her a private message using their staff intranet asking if she wanted to go for a walk. From that point on they would message each other on the staff intranet and go for walks twice a week.

This went on for two months totally unbeknown to me. The first time I became aware of her existence was in December I went on his Instagram and she came up as a recent search. I didn’t know who she was and so just assumed she must be someone he used to know. I didn’t ask him about it.

Then in January I went on my google history and realised my dp had used my computer and had been searching for her online and then wiped the history but it had saved to my google history. I then realised she worked with him. I went to his work and confronted him, at this point just to find out why he kept searching for this co-worker that I had never heard of. He then told me they were good friends, went on walks twice a week and he hadn’t told me because of what he perceived my reaction would be due to the cycling woman. He said he had feelings for her, then later said he didn’t, he just said that because I was saying it to him over and over again.

He never had her phone number so I have no way of knowing what any messages said between them. He said he didn’t want her like that he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me. I kicked him out for 4 days. In that time he told me he messaged her on the staff intranet saying “I can’t message you anymore I’ve got issues with my girlfriend which I need to resolve”. He said she replied “okay hope you get things sorted”. He has now stopped seeing her and calls me every lunch time.

I am consumed by it. It’s really opened my eyes to how stupid I was about the cycling woman and I don’t care if he sees her. But I just feel broken that he could have lied to me like this and pursue someone else.

It’s been 6 months and I decided to forgive him as I could see my part in all this and I don’t know how things would have been different if I hadn’t become some insecure and stupid about the cycling woman. I had always wanted to get married but it hadn’t happened because we couldn’t agree on the kind of wedding we wanted, and were recovering from house renovating financially. But now we had compromised on the wedding and decided to go abroad and he has bought a ring.

Do you think this will get easier? Am I being silly to still be preoccupied? I fear for something like this happening again in the future.

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MikeUniformMike · 03/07/2019 10:11

It will get easier if you just drop it. Look what happened with the cycling woman - nothing.
I've been in your position and I just couldn't get something out of my head. The man in question did nothing to reassure me. It caused me and him a lot of pain.
He loves you. He's not been unfaithful.
You will lose him if you carry on.

User1298 · 03/07/2019 12:22

Thank you. I know what you are saying but I guess I just feel like the situation was different for the cycling woman because I did not think he had feelings for her.

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PicsInRed · 03/07/2019 12:33

He HAS been unfaithful, at the very least emotionally, potentially more.

Just put up with it? That's the advice?Ayayayayay. 😶

ScreamingLadySutch · 03/07/2019 13:10

User, you are upset because you have got something to be upset about.

He has shown you, not once, but twice, that he is capable of compartmentalising and splitting his life and having secrets from you.

When people show you who they are, believe them - the first time. But he has done it again! He gets emotional resource from people who are not you, and keeps you out of it/keeps it secret.

If I were you? I would run.

You won't listen, but I would. There is only one way to deal with disrespect, and that is to leave.

PS I doubt the connection was emotional. Adults don't get together regularly to hold hands and read bible verses (Chump Lady)

FoookinHell · 03/07/2019 13:34

He has totally been unfaithful to you, I think an emotional affair can be worse than a physical one as there are emotions and feelings involved.

I speak from experience of being on the receiving end of this, it’s horrible and makes you wonder what’s wrong with you and why you’re not enough for them.

The time he was spending with her and emailing her is time he should have been spending with you. He’s done it twice and chances are he will do it again.

User1298 · 03/07/2019 13:44

He has only done it once - the first woman he was not interested in other than platonically and he was completely transparent and honest about everything. It was the second girl that he deceived me and said this was due to my reaction to the first woman whom he was honest about.

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MikeUniformMike · 03/07/2019 13:45

I go for walks with colleagues, sometimes for a coffee or drink. There's not necessarily anything in it. Actually there's nothing in it. Just people who I talk to about work-related stuff with and get on with. They are usually male, beacsue of the line of work.
If DP turned up at work because of it I'd tell him to do one.

lifebegins50 · 03/07/2019 13:50

I went to his work and confronted him

This seems extreme and not reasonable. Why could you not have spoken once he got home?

Sometimes we are insecure and our inner self needs healing but sometimes we are with a partner who makes us feel insecure.

Do you trust him?

User1298 · 03/07/2019 13:53

I don't know why I turned up. I just felt so distressed that he had been stalking a colleague online repeatedly and never told me she existed.

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ConfCall · 03/07/2019 14:04

I think I remember you posting about cycling lady. She was the one who’d tell him she was getting into the bath? His responses to her were reassuringly neutral iirc. However, you did not know what happened when they met up or when they communicated via work email.

Now this.

I don’t know OP. I understand that men and women can be mates (I have male friends) but in under a year he’s forged close emotional bonds with not one but two colleagues? It’s odd. I’d be wary of having children with this man.

booboo24 · 03/07/2019 14:41

I too go for lunch with male colleagues, and message them, it is totally innocent and I don't hide it from my fiance as there's nothing in it. I can see how people would lie if continuing the friendship upset their partner though, however that's a slippery slope which usually breeds even more insecurity as you've found out. So up to a point I'm on the fence here - I can see why he lied, but the lie n itself would be the clincher for me. The point of no return for me in your post was when you said he told you he had feelings for her and then retracted it, that wouldn't sit well with me and I doubt I'd be able to get over that one

Whathappenedtooursummer · 03/07/2019 14:44

Imo getting married won't quash his need for extra ego stroking.
Which again imo will lead to other areas being stroked....
Vows won't stop him op.
Ltb before your mh is a mess.

User1298 · 03/07/2019 14:49

Thanks for your replies. I kept saying to him that he obviously had feelings for her as he doesn't search for other people online. In the end he said he must have feelings for her to have done this but nothing would have ever happened. I said since when did you realise you had feelings for her, he said he didn't know. The next day he retracted it. He said he's been thinking and he did not have feelings for her but I had just said it a 100 times he ended up saying he must have. He now maintains he never had feelings for her but just got on really well and thought she was interesting and he was intrigued by her life (i.e hobbies and interests and holidays etc).

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booboo24 · 03/07/2019 14:59

Maybe you put the words in his mouth then by keeping on at him? Perhaps you made it so black and white he thought, ok, maybe it does mean I have feelings for her. Even so, his confusion about that would not do much to help reassure me.

1forAll74 · 03/07/2019 15:16

Things will only change,if you can self help yourself, and change your mindset about all this insecurity.

Partners are allowed to have friends in their hobbies,or at work. Take the blindfolds off,and be more open to everyday life. It must be hard work for your partner if he has to keep things secret from you,as he knows what reactions he will receive. And all this checking on phones and laptops, which seems to be the norm these days, is making people more paranoid about things.

MikeUniformMike · 03/07/2019 19:34

If I had been doing a strenuous sporting activity with a pal, something like a marathon or road cycling time trials (ha ha, as if) I might mention I was getting in the bath.
It wouldn't mean anything.
I think you are seeing way to much into things.
I sometimes look up colleagues. I'm not stalking them. Just interested to know a bit more about them, or maybe because so and so said the boss had been to Cambridge but I thought he's been to York or something.
Your poor boyfriend is probably quite innocent and treading on eggshells.

Bluntness100 · 03/07/2019 19:42

You asked him a hundred times if he had feelings for her? You sound so needy, controlling and insecure. He is allowed female friends. Doesn't mean he wants to shag them.

Honestly. I think you need some help.

category12 · 03/07/2019 19:47

Is the timeline on the new colleague definitely that he met her in November?

User1298 · 03/07/2019 19:54

Is the timeline on the new colleague definitely that he met her in November?
@category12 Yes

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Justathinslice · 03/07/2019 20:11

Hang on.....

With the cycling lady, she kept sending him inappropriate texts, but he still carried on?

So she possibly had feelings for him, but he kept on hanging out with her? Was that fair to her?
She sent inappropriate messages, and he kept hanging out with her? Was that fair to you?
It seems he may have gotten a great deal out of it. At best this is selfish and poor judgement.
At worst..... well. Ew.

And then the second woman- he kept it secret for months. Months. Not just a few days. It wasn't a one off. Twice a week for months. So in the evening, you asked about each others day, and he kept a secret/ minimised/ lied.

On top of that, he was searching for her online?
He was with her twice a week, but he wanted more information?

Of course it unsettled you!! How could it not?
He CHOSE to lie, you didn't MAKE him lie.

Granted, going to his work showed no restraint, but again, you doing that did not CAUSE him to lie.

And if COURSE you are going to ask if he had feelings for her. What other conclusions could you possibly draw.

Do you trust him?

Do you like his behaviour?

Has he had secure/ positive relationships with women in his formative years?

Lilac3 · 03/07/2019 21:00

He didn't have her phone number? Confused
If that's true, then it sounds like there was nothing at all between them.

And I have to say, what on earth were you doing on his Instagram? If my dh or a partner went on mine, and looked through my searches, I'd dump them on the spot for invading my privacy.
For what it's worth, I regularly search for people I've crossed paths with or share a hobby with, or often people I'm interested in (not romantically) but don't feel comfortable enough to 'follow', so their name would probably appear as a frequent search.

You sound extremely controlling and massively insecure.

I think the responses here would be very different if a man wrote this OP about his wife

Justathinslice · 03/07/2019 21:47

So, lilac
Would you be happy if your partner met someone twice a week for months and didn't mention it?
Well, maybe you would, but a great many people ( including OP) feel it's a betrayal if trust.

MikeUniformMike · 04/07/2019 19:21

Do you have the link to the original thread please OP?

HollowTalk · 04/07/2019 19:29

I wouldn't trust this man as far as I could throw him.

Normal behaviour would be to say, "Oh I went for a walk with X today. She's interested in XYZ and this is what we talked about." That's bringing you into their relationship, albeit at one step removed.

He doesn't do that, though, does he? It's all secretive with him. He builds up these relationships with other women and doesn't let you in - in fact now he hides the relationships.

IME this doesn't change. This sort of man always wants something beyond what he's got. One day - it might not be with this woman - he'll meet up with someone he really likes and that's when things will change.

I wouldn't hang about, though.

DramaRamaLlama · 04/07/2019 19:35

I wouldn't call this an emotional affair.

He went for a few walks at lunchtime with a colleague, didn't have her number and only said "he must have had feelings for her to search for her online" after you told him 100 times that he must have?!

I don't say this to be unkind but I think you're the one with the issue here. It sounds like at worst your DP had a minor crush but your reaction has been extreme

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