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Can I mention the RACIAL ABUSE and other incident?

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Vixenvibes · 21/06/2019 21:43

I’m sorry this is long, but I’d really appreciate someone’s help with this and to know what you would do?

Over the last few weeks I had noticed my DS year 7 had not been his usual self. He was also complaining of exhaustion and I could see him struggle to do even the things he enjoys. I was worried and was contemplating taking him to see the doctor if it continued.

It turns out that 2 of his friends were persistently taunting him over not having something they have. One of these friends I’ll call him HARRY (the ring leader) went to his junior school and lives very close and I know his mother, although we are not friends per se. He had been to my house and on play dates when they were younger many times.
The other boy I’ll call him SAM was brought into the friendship group by my son, much to the delight of his parents as they were worried, as he had started the school not knowing anyone and had not liked his last school due to not getting on with another boy in his class. We even helped this boy to join my son’s sports team as his parents seemed keen to get him doing activities with my son. It seems my son’s has been “wendied” however!

Yesterday I received some distressing texts from DS at school saying that he was being relentlessly taunted and ridiculed by Harry and Sam but another of his best friends he went to junior school with (I’ll call him Tom) had joined in too, which I think shocked my DS. I know Tom’s mum vaguely and they live very close by too. I do not think this is the first time it’s happened at lunch break either, I think my DS has been bottling it up.
There are about 8 or 9 of the friendship group in total I think.

My DS walked off when they wouldn’t stop and were escalating the harassment. His friend (I’ll call him Ben) who also went to his junior school saw him crying at his next lesson, said “come on let’s report this to the teacher I witnessed it all.”
Ben had been subject to the ringleader Harry’s ridicule the other week and Ben had also been reduced to tears and had reported Harry. The teachers took down both boy’s statements and was going to pass it to the head of Year who was off that day.

I have since heard that Harry the ring leader was made to go to a meeting at the school with the parents of a child he has been persistently racially abusing, just a few weeks ago.

My DS was sent screen shots yesterday night of Harry saying nasty things about my DS and when his friend defended him he was called names like cunt and was ferociously attacked. Harry has also been writing names of who he is excluding from group chats in the title. My DS and another boy in the friendship group name.

What has really upset me is today my DS said he nearly missed his bus and had to go alone because one half of his friendship group which included Harry the ring leader) had previously organised to not go home after school but to stay in the town the school is in and go out. The other half of his friends went to his kind friend Ben’s house for an event. He was the only one not invited anywhere. He told me they had been speaking about it in school today in front of him and no one had asked him to go. I suspect this was arranged by Harry and he has been deliberately excluded.

I would like to email the school, as I’m really worried about this.

Could I bring up in my email that I know about the school arranging a meeting with the for Harry the ring leader and the parents of the child he persistently racially abused.
Can I bring up knowing about Ben’s statements about being ridiculed by him.

The reason I want to do this is to show that whatever the school are doing to stop this prolific bully is not working and I want real consequences and sanctions put in place because he has simply carried on bullying regardless with not a care or fear in the world.

If anybody could give me any advice I would be so grateful? My DS is do kind and caring and I am so worried. It is delicate because it is his actual friendship group and this is what scares me.

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endofthelinefinally · 21/06/2019 21:53

I am so sorry OP. It is heart breaking.
I have no advice because I have no faith in schools.
I took my child out of school when this happened to us.

Vixenvibes · 21/06/2019 22:03

Thank you for replying, I am very sorry to hear your child and family had to go through this.

Flowers
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socialistmamma · 21/06/2019 22:08

Unfortunately, I have to agree with pp, we went through so much when this happened with DD, multiple school visits, calls etc, nothing they did made any difference so we made the decision to move schools, we just didn't trust the school were taking it seriously enough. I'm so sorry you're going through this, it really is heartbreaking Sad

Vixenvibes · 21/06/2019 22:16

Thank you Socialistmamma, it really is awful. So out of the blue too. I just wish it was me having a bad time I could handle it then.

My DS would not move schools. I’m sure of that.

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OhioOhioOhio · 22/06/2019 04:09

I wouldn't mention it at first. I'd have it to say if I was fobbed off at a meeting.

I'd say I was going to the police and then I would.

MarieG10 · 22/06/2019 06:55

*Ohio
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*I wouldn't mention it at first. I'd have it to say if I was fobbed off at a meeting.

I'd say I was going to the police and then I would.*

So what do you think the police will say being asked to sort out a seven year olds problems in school? How completely ludicrous
This is the usual horrible stuff that happens from time to time between kids and is for parents and the head to sort out. Grow up

JourneyToThePlacentaOfTheEarth · 22/06/2019 07:05

This is not a time for emails. This is a time to make your anger and presence felt by the school. They have a duty to protect your son. The headmaster, the governors, the bully and his parents would all be hearing from me. Also seek advice from an anti bullying charity

JourneyToThePlacentaOfTheEarth · 22/06/2019 07:08

This is year 7 maria not 7 year olds. When my son was racially abused by his classmate I went to the police and it was taken seriously and the child given youth punishments and it was put on their police record.

Proteinshakesandtears · 22/06/2019 07:20

The ops son hasnt been racially abused, has he. Isnt that another child?

OP I would leave that out of it. If the school try and fob you off, I would tell the school you are aware there have been other complaints and want to know at what point that are going to do something about the behaviour.

Showing them the screen shots will help too.

ittakes2 · 22/06/2019 07:35

You can say what you want to the school - its just hearsay ie say other children have told your son.
I'm sorry this is happening. My son is also sensitive and was bullied. The two best things I ever did was a) build him friendships outside of school to boast his confidence - it meant that whatever was happening in school was not as a big a deal as he had friends outside of school and b) get him some therapy on his body language and how to deal with bullies and friendships. If your son is sensitive like mine - all bullies can potentially see this as a weakness and he will be vunerable until he can learn how to carry himself confidently with other children. He doesn't have to be an alpha male or a bully himself to achieve this. My son decided at the age of 9 he did not want to hit back at bullies - but he has been taught how to manage his facial expressions and body language should someone try and put him down - and he has been taught how to come back with witty comments if someone is rude to him. The bullying was distressing but these things literally transformed his life and he now has a wide group of friends and has met some equally sensitive and lovely boys as part of this. Hope your son is OK.

ILoveAllRainbowsx · 22/06/2019 07:53

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Vixenvibes · 22/06/2019 08:53

Hmmm.... my DS phone starting ringing at just after 1am in the morning no caller Id.
That’s never happened before.

Thank you for your replies. I may save the disgusting fact he harassed the other children out of it and have it in my back pocket.

Another boy from my son’s junior and main friendship group left the school a couple of months ago for private school citing bullying as one of the reasons. Maybe I should phone his mother who seems to be a lovely woman.

The thing is I wouldn’t say my son is particularly sensitive, he brushes things off really easily and just gets on with things. When it’s persistent and escalating and the other children are obviously being manipulated into a group mentality, I think most children would start to feel demoralised.

I think the body language thing is a good idea, but he did stand up for himself at the lunchtime incident, but the boys just escalated it.

The thing is I moved here and my son started in year 1. It is a very pretentious, cliquey area and quite frankly I have never met such generally unpleasant people. The odd few are nice. I made an effort at first but all the parents knew each other already and although my DS has always had lots of friends and been popular, I was not able to make friends with these mothers and after experiencing some of them and hearing them say nasty things about each other and their children; I didn’t want to. I do think that makes a difference somewhat outside school.

He has been happy all through this year and made new friends from other feeder schools etc. I just find it strange that the ones who were going out after school were talking about it in front of him and not one of them asked if he wanted to come. This is why I think the ringleader has organised this as I have seen the way he uses exclusion in social media.

I’m so tempted to call his mother, especially if the schools are useless with this kind of thing. I just do not want to make things worse as I’m livid.

Do they have cycling groups for teens? He’s never wanted to go to karate although it’s a good suggestion.

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MarieG10 · 22/06/2019 09:02

Journey

This is year 7 maria not 7 year olds. When my son was racially abused by his classmate I went to the police and it was taken seriously and the child given youth punishments and it was put on their police record.

She 7 or 11. It matters not. It is happening in school and is for them to sort in conjunction with parents.

Oh. Police record. It is his criminal record and and cautions placed on a criminal record are disclosable for many occupations. The whole agenda is to stop criminalising children who are still finding out what is right and wrong and most country's do not recognise criminal responsibility until age 13

If the school is not dealing with it hen complain to the chair of governors but to start dragging the police into a matter where parents should be sitting is ridiculous.

I agree the behaviours is extremely unpleasant but if you resort to the police starting at this level where else do you go.

RantyAnty · 22/06/2019 10:09

I don't understand why you are being so passive about this? Have you contacted the school at all?

mumofwantwomany · 22/06/2019 10:26

Contact the school today and threaten to take it higher up if something isn't done. As PP said, why are you being so passive about this? Stop dithering about whether or not to report the other incidents and report what's happening to your DS.

JQBased · 22/06/2019 10:32

So hold on, is your son being racially abused or just being taunted for whatever? There is a huge difference. Everyone takes the Mick out of everyone in school, that's just how it is, but if he is being racially abused then that's a huge issue. Bullying is dreadful, I was bullied at school but you also need to have facts and evidence as to what's being said and done and to what extent. If it is racial and the school is not doing anything then it's a police issue.

JQBased · 22/06/2019 10:33

Same if it is a disability issue, kids can be awful but to what level is this taunting that's just what I want to know. What is he being taunted for?

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