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Cracked101 · 02/06/2019 14:59

Around 13 years ago i met a girl, we hit it off and became good friends. Shortly after meeting she had mentioned unhappiness at home and i offered her my spare room which she accepted straight away. For the first couple of years we were very on/off and this was mainly down to me and my unwillingness to commit to her and admit my feelings (was not long out of a ltr) . We did end up getting together and in 2010 i asked her to marry me which she accepted. When i asked her to marry me it was because i loved her i fully understood marriage and knew it was for life. We got married in 2011 and everything was fine between us until the birth of our daughter in 2013. My wife at the time was having reality checking in and felt trapped and a difficult birth and my wifes readmittance to hospital had an effect on her as did myself going missing for the first few months as the child suffered badly from colic and i selfishly hid out of the way. I did return to my wifes aid and have been there ever since for the child but these things all contributed to my wifes feelings of wanting to leave. I was able to talk her into staying but she never took the opportuntity to unburden herself of all the things she was keeping quiet about. She had issues with her mum all through childhood and felt very unloved and unwanted. These things led to eating disorders , self harm, depression and anxiety and she had become very good at burying it when she met me. Maybe she was scared to dump any of it on me incase i seen her as too much work or something but for whatever reason she continued burying things. In late 2014 i became very ill and by feb 2015 i was in intensive care in hospital with a severe attack of newly diagnosed lupus sle which i very nearly didnt survive. When i was woken from my coma i couldnt move, couldnt even turn my head to look at the clock which used to really frustate me, but i had plenty of time to think and think i did, i was so grateful to still be alive for my child who was only around 18 months and i thought constantly about my wife and how much i loved her and nearly left without properly showing her. I would obsessively wait for her visits and be desperate to see her. I resolved to be much more openly loving to my wife when i got out of hospital and we got a house where we currently live. Within a few months of moving in though she met some guy from usa (we are in ireland) on a Facebook group and a friendship began. As it is of course easy to talk to people online she was able to be herself and not be the person who buried things with this guy and after a couple of years around the time of a severe bout of depression made worse by terrible meds feelings for this guy appeared and my wife buried them but continued the friendship. Its clear and obvious that intimacy and secrets meant for a husband were being shipped out to this guy and things carried on for another while until my wifes mother died at the end of 2018 and my wife became pregnant with an unwanted child a few weeks later. She started then acting upon her feelings for this guy and in the beginning of 2019 she miscarried at home and she was relieved. Then she spent until april building up a plan to leave me and the child and run off to the us to be with this guy. He had sent her money for a passport and visa and flights. When i was told she was adamant there was nothing between us the case against me was perfect. 6 weeks later she is still here and we have talked an awfull lot about everything and she now knows and accepts that she was truly loved and could have told me anything and been herself right from the beginning. That there was never a need to repress herself. She then went to her dads to clear her head and when she came back she realised when she seen me that she loved me and missed me. I was briefly happy as i of course thought this meant the other guy was going. It became clear very quickly that she wouldnt get rid of him and felt torn between the 2. This progressed to the point where in a panic to stop her doing something crazy i did Something crazier and told her she could have Both. Obviously this is not what i want on any level but i felt backed into a corner because she was so unwilling to give him up. A day or 2 later i retracted it and gave her the ultimatum and she battled with it but chose her husband, it never really felt like a happy reunion though and i knew she still wouldnt give this guy up. So many of the problems between us have all been solved from our talking and my wife no longer feels the way she did for so long about me but she is terrified at the feelings for this guy never going away and despite loving her husband and seeing the brightness the future has without long running issues between us. She ultimately comes back to wanting both because she us unable to choose what to do and i seen the impact backing her into a corner with an ultimatum did as her whole personality changed to a cold emotionless person who is very against her husband and its only when the ultimatum was removed that there was massive physical relief on her face and she realised how against her husband she becomes when that coldness appears when she is under pressure. So this is my life ultimately atm i dont know what to do its like a nightmare i havnt woke up from and the only thing i know is i cant and wont give up on her.

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qazxc · 02/06/2019 15:29

Apologies if I misunderstand because your op is quite confusing to me and lacks paragraphs.
But really you both need professional help (councelling) because there is a lot going on here.
Do you think that your wife might still be suffering from mental illness because talking of abandoning her child seems like a highly unorthodox move.
Do you think that she thinks that, if there wasn't another man, you would go back to behaving badly?
You seem to lay a lot blame at her door (about not being open, being cold, ....) and expect her to know that you loved her. but by your admission acted badly until you fell ill (and therefore needed her).
Is she clinging onto the emotional affair as an escape from reality / in case things do not work out in the marriage?

Cracked101 · 02/06/2019 15:58

I never treated her badly i just wasnt outward enough in my showing but i tried to keep my post short unbelievably. i loved her properly when i married her i just didnt fully understand her childhood history of feeling unloved so didnt realise that when i told her i loved here she didnt believe it. She would be the first to admit all this it was from her that i heard it when the affair came out and everything in our history was btought up. She brought a lot into the marriage that affected her but i was unaware that she had become very good at burying things

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Cracked101 · 02/06/2019 16:20

I treated her badly for 4 months when our child was born for my own part i didnt cope very well at very beginning of fatherhood but admitted all that at the time and apologised and have been there for both of them ever since. I just wasnt as outwardly affectionatte or said i love you as many times as i did post hospital. She has accepted her part and theres a lot more i could say about her part but im not looking for blame portioning it doesnt help. And i have accepted my mistakes no relationship is without them and if i blamed her for everything i wouldnt have spent 6 weeks and counting ignoring my own hurt at 4 years of deception and focusing on her, so much so that i end up on here in a desperation attempt at letting some anguish out.

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qazxc · 02/06/2019 16:23

In 2013, you admit that you "went missing for the first few months" and "selfishly hid" when she (and your daughter) needed you. That's what I mean by treating her badly.
Then in 2014, you fall ill and eventually end up in intensive care, where you reflect on your marriage and decide to make a bigger effort. (which is why I wonder, does she think that your improvement as a husband is linked to you needing her more because of your ill-health)

She has had a difficult past that she didn't disclose to you, and I don't doubt that it is a factor, but how could she confide and be open to a husband that was't being supportive and thinking of leaving her?

Flamingnora123 · 02/06/2019 16:23

You didn't treat her badly, but you disappeared to leave her to cope on her own with a difficult newborn because you couldn't be arsed with it? I'd never have let you back.

inlectorecumbit · 02/06/2019 16:38

I think l would be making sure there was no way she could run off to the USA and take your DC away from you.

qazxc · 02/06/2019 16:40

Ideally she would need to speak to someone professional because she has been through a lot of traumatic events recently. Maybe there are mental health issues at play too (depression for example).
Separately you would also need couples counceling to find out if your marriage is salvageable and how to have a healthy relationship going forward.

Cherrysoup · 02/06/2019 16:45

Legally, I don’t think she can go and take your daughter.

Cracked101 · 02/06/2019 16:49

I had never left the house i was doing plenty for the child but when the colic got bad i couldnt cope and hid in another room.not once would i have ever left her or thought about it i just didnt cope well at the start of fatherhood. Thats 4 months in 8 years of marriage where i have been there for her every other time including prolonged periods of depression where id never have considered leaving her. I just showed less affection and outward appreciation until id got sick and reflected on how i could do better. But that doesnt mean i gave her none prior by my wifes own admission she didnt show much affection to me but i didnt care because i gave and she received and i wasnt bothered. I know she has a ton of issues that are not resolved and they are having an effect on her state of mind and im constantly worried sick about her

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Cracked101 · 02/06/2019 16:52

And in terms of my health i obviously have an incurable illness but i dont depend on her anymore than i did prior to being sick i have recovered enough to be as close to "normal" as i was before bar a bit of exhaustion if i overdo it

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Cracked101 · 02/06/2019 17:02

She is leaving the child as well

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katy78 · 02/06/2019 17:09

Please read: www.chumplady.com/2015/04/dear-chump-lady-he-cant-decide/

LittleWing80 · 02/06/2019 18:09

It’s not very nice to have a go at OP for the first 4 months of his baby’s life. No one would have a go at a woman for having post natal depression. Admittedly hormones would play a part and would not apply to men but becoming a parent is a major game changer emotionally and physically (lack of sleep and tiredness included).

@cracked101 it must be tough, I am sorry. Your wife will have to go through the journey of finding out what she wants with counselling, on her own or whichever way she chooses and helps her (she has to choose, the saddest part to me - apologies to you - is that she is prepared to leave her little one behind which really tells me she is not well within herself).

You have to be prepared that the outcome she reaches might not be the one you would have wanted.

I hope it works out for your family. Hugs.

Cracked101 · 02/06/2019 18:32

Thank you

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Nanny0gg · 02/06/2019 18:46

Unless a woman is severely ill with PND she still doesn't bugger off for 4 months when it's hard! She gets on with with the baby and whatever else is going on. No excuse for the OP there.

LittleWing80 · 02/06/2019 19:01

Some women do, some women because of PND, some for other reasons, some just aren’t god mums. You might not like it but it’s the reality

Cracked101 · 02/06/2019 20:28

Noone buggered off anywhere i simply had a tough time adjusting to fatherhood but i was in the house and doing what i could and never would have dreamt of leaving. she is buggering off now for a lot longer than 4 months where i wasnt actually buggered off anywhere. I gave the short version of my situation because the whole lot would have taken days to write. My wife forgave my slow adaptation to fatherhood at the time she understood why it happened . i only mentioned it as an example of a mistake i made in our marriage and i can be thankful she has more forgiveness than you.

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FuriousVexation · 03/06/2019 02:40

OP your post is very confusing.

So right now your wife has your "permission" to bang both you and the other guy, right? Except the other guy won't probably happen because he's on another continent. OH WAIT there's another guy who is on the same continent who she wants to bang. Oh wait, now she doesn't. OH WAIT now she does and intends to.

Stop dreaming about a bojo homo with this person. She's demonstrated pretty clearly that she doesn't do monogamy.

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