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How often does you husband go out??

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Dad102 · 15/05/2019 13:17

I know this forum is mostly for mums, but as a dad of a 1 year old (with another on the way) I wanted to get your opinion on something that is frequently raised between me and my wife.

Thankfully my wife and I very rarely argue, and we generally get on very well. However, whenever we do argue the “issue” of my social life always gets brought up and held against me.

I think this is unfair, because I don’t think I really have much of a social life (which is fine with me) and I make every effort to ensure that all housework and care for our son etc is split equally.

I’ll paint a picture of our home-life, and I’d be interested in your opinions of whether It’s fair or not.

I work full time (5 days a week) and my wife works part time (3 days a week). She has our son for 2 days a week (tougher than working, I know) and he is in nursery for the other 3 days. We spend both days of the weekend together as a family.

One of us will get up at 6am everyday and start work early, which means that our son can spend as little time as possible at nursery and 4 days out of 5 we can eat as a family at home at around 5pm. The other day I have to work late to ensure that I work my full hours at work.

We try to split the housework as much as possible. She cooks most of the tea’s (because she finishes work earlier), she does most of the clothes washing, we split the washing up and the cleaning up of the pets, I do the hoovering and the ironing (mostly my shirts anyway).

We both basically work hard until 7pm when our son goes to bed and then spend some time together, watching TV or Netflix until its bedtime.

I play 5-aside football once a week with work colleagues, which means I get home at 19:45 instead of 18:45. This means that I miss putting my son to bed one night, but it would be my “late” working day anyway and it’s pretty much the only exercise I get all week.

I also run a scout group one night a week (my wife helps at the same group but on a separate night). This is the scout group that my wife and I both joined as kids, so we have some attachment and feel like we should support the group as adults. However, the running of the group does eat into our weekends. My sons Saturday nap (2 hours) is normally taken up with scout admin work.

My social life consists of the following:
• One weekend away each year to a European city. I look forward to this each year as a chance to catch up with my old friends.
• 1 day of cricket and 1 evening of cricket each year.
• 1 concert/gig each year.
• 3 or 4 evenings out each year for peoples Bdays, or general catching up with old friends.
• 2 work events (xmas party etc) per year

That’s pretty much it.

I used to have hobbies before getting married, things like martial arts, playing the guitar, playing the odd game of Fifa etc. I don’t do any of that anymore since we had kids, as doing any of that would take away time from us as a couple.

I quite often turn down tickets to the football or evenings out with work, to spend time at home. I would say on a normal week we have 4/5 evenings in with each other sat on the sofa.

The question is; do I go out too much?

To be honest, I fail to see what I could cut back on. Out of everyone I know, I’m pretty certain that I go out the least. Most of my work colleagues (even the ones with kids) go to the gym frequently and/or don’t leave work till half 5 or 6pm.

I know a lot of people don’t get home to eat tea with their families and I’m very thankful that I do. I like my work/life/family balance and I wouldn’t change it for the world. However, as I mentioned above, my wife is always pushing for more “us” time and every time we disagree on anything, this “issue” of me going out too much is always raised.

Personally, I think one of the big issues here is that my wife does not go out at all with any of her friends. We both have small circles of friends, so she could easily organise some meetups or even spa days if she wants to, however these are very rare indeed, despite me saying she should do more of them and that’s its healthy to have some contact with friends.

She also does not do any exercise. She used to do swimming before we had our son, and despite talking about getting back into it, she very rarely makes the effort to go.

I’m amazed at times that she can have a go at me for taking an hour out of the week to try and stay healthy, or for meeting up with some friends I haven’t seen for 6 months. Is 4 or 5 nights a week at home together not quite reasonable?

To be honest I worry about the future as its only going to get worse when our son and their brother/sister start doing their own activities in the evenings. Its all fine with me as I expected this when we had kids, I knew we would have to make sacrifices and time as a couple would be one of them.

Am I being unreasonable?

Dad102

OP posts:
Lauren83 · 15/05/2019 13:26

We have a 16 month old and another due in a few weeks, I would say my DP does about the following

Gym 3 nights a week home at 6.30pm
Football 1 night a week
Pub to watch football maybe twice a month
2 x weekends abroad a year for stag dos etc
Maybe 4 nights out in town coming home about 3am
Few meals out with the lads when it's someone's birthday

I'm happy with all the above and don't think it's a lot, he always puts the baby to bed when he is hear and also doesn't stay in bed if he had been out

snoopy18 · 15/05/2019 13:29

That’s not a lot of social time at all to be honest.

snoopy18 · 15/05/2019 13:33

Oops hit post.

Ours is just 9 weeks old but I go out as much as possible with him & at the weekends if i want to I’ll schedule stuff with friends ie went out this past weekend both days for a few hours as weather was nice but baby was with husband.

I’ve been cinema shopping etc since having baby and like to get out as much as possible really.

Likewise with hubby he goes cinema whenever he wants to and gym. He doesn’t have many friends outside of work but I always tell him to take up new hobbies etc but he doesn’t 🤦🏾‍♀️

I think it’s healthy to have your own stuff going on as long as neither of you feel drowned looking after kids.

Self care is important whatever that looks like for you

ExplodingCarrots · 15/05/2019 13:49

That sounds fine. I wouldn't say that's much at all. I think you're wife is relying on you too much for company and expects you to sit in every night because she doesn't want to do anything else.

Lifeisabeach09 · 15/05/2019 13:51

Doesn't seem unreasonable but your DW is harbouring some resentment.
Likely cause she is pregnant and has the greater share of the 1 year old and she doesn't have much of a life outside of the kid and work. Only she can change that though.
Any chance you can do more dinners so she can go do stuff (exercise, drink with coworkers) after work? Do more around the home?
You both might want to take a step back from Scouts too and free up more time at the weekends.
PS Being with my DP every night would drive me nuts!

gamerchick · 15/05/2019 13:52

That sounds fine. I wouldn't say that's much at all. I think you're wife is relying on you too much for company and expects you to sit in every night because she doesn't want to do anything else

This pretty much sums it up. ^ she needs to get a life of her own and not rely completely on you. It's not healthy for her.

mammatee · 15/05/2019 14:12

@Dad102 my partner doesn't go out too much anymore but used to go out every Friday, sometimes the Saturday too and a weekend away per year.

So you're definitely not going out too much and I think I'm with the majority that'll say she uses it against you because she doesn't go out. If she arranged things with her friends and did something one night a week you could have your son and that way she is getting a bit of 'me time' too.

Suggest to her to arrange more time out with friends doing whatever she wants to do with them and see where it goes. If she agrees and meets her friends that's great and she cannot use your small amount of me time against you. But if she declines and refuses to go out with friends that is her choice and you can always say you gave her the chance to go out as much as you do.

I don't think you are being selfish in anyway as you rarely go out, but I do think she may be pining for a bit of me time on her own or with friends- although she may say that's not the case.

mindutopia · 15/05/2019 14:20

I would say my husband probably goes out a somewhat similar amount, maybe a bit less, about 5-6 nights a year he’s away, maybe one weekend trip with friends somewhere. All our friends live far enough away that it requires 1-2 nights away to see them. So he might have a night away every other month. Maybe one trip on a plane for a weekend away every year.

I think more the issue would be the weekly commitments. One night a week for a sport and weekend hours each week devoted to scouts, every single week would be a lot. I would want equal time to myself. That and work commitments and things like weddings and family birthdays, etc and you can end up having very little true quality time together if you aren’t careful. It’s hard to know if that’s the case here.

mindutopia · 15/05/2019 14:23

What I’m saying is if you have 2-3 nights a week to yourself and then in theory she also has 2-3 nights a week to herself (she may not want to take them because she’s exhausted and would rather be home with you), but that means you only would see eat other 1-3 nights a week. That doesn’t seem sustainable for a happy marriage when you have such separate lives.

ZestyMaximus · 15/05/2019 14:35

What you are doing sounds entirely reasonable to me and a lot less than some parents. I think your wife's issue is more about her than you.

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/05/2019 14:43

She also does not do any exercise. She used to do swimming before we had our son, and despite talking about getting back into it, she very rarely makes the effort to go.

She has a one year old and is pregnant. That's a massive change to her body and to her life. You are carrying on as normal in the main. Not saying that's wrong but she's clearly struggling to do the same. The fact that she's arguing with you about it means she probably resents it. Not you, maybe. IYSWIM.

If I were you, I'd try to support her with this and be a little sympathetic to what a bomb pregnancy and childbirth drop in your life. But I wouldn't give up your social life!

Lost5stone · 15/05/2019 14:53

Dp works full time, I work 2 days and do all housework and cleaning apart from the washing up and his washing.

He does roughly:
1 Night out every week for hobby, leaves as I am putting DD to bed
Approx 2/3 times a month to pub for football/bdays whatever
Approx 3 weekends away a year
2 Xmas parties
Maybe 5 sporting events a year, some of these are when I'm at work and DD has childcare

I think it's quite a lot but I'm not annoyed about it. I maybe go for nights out 2/3 times a year and I did 1 night away for the first time in 3 years this year. However I exercise a lot so I'm out usually for at least an hour 3/4 times a week.

Merchant · 15/05/2019 16:54

Crikey. That’s barely going out. I’m out at least 2-3 eves per week doing gym classes and I say yes to most invitations. I’d go nuts being stuck indoors every eve especially when the weather is nice.

Quartz2208 · 15/05/2019 17:11

She has a one year old and is pregnant I think her life has massively changed and she is worried about the impact of it as a couple

Musti · 15/05/2019 17:26

It doesn't sound like you di too much but she's pregnant and hormonal so talk to her and come to an agreement

dottiedodah · 15/05/2019 18:10

If your wife is pregnant,working 3 days a week and looking after a little one then I would say shes probably knackered tbh!.I dont think your outings are excessive normally, but she probably feels tired and just wants to stay at home with her feet up in the evenings!.You sound like a really nice guy ,so maybe you could compromise a little.Could you cut down on the scout admin for a short while and free up the w/e. or maybe go to football every other week?(just while she is pregnant and possibly worried about coping when the new baby arrives)! its not for ever and obviously you want to have some of your own hobbies as well.

Quartz2208 · 15/05/2019 18:27

Have you managed a date night?

RantyAnty · 15/05/2019 18:33

Why don't you ask your wife what she wants you to do?

Rabbiting0n · 15/05/2019 18:41

Of course she resents you going out. She is pregnant and has the lion's share of childcare for your son. She sounds like she is struggling at the moment. The problem is not you, but the situation. Her body and lifestyle are changing, and even if it's not true, it can feel as though the man gets off scot free. I'd try to have a talk about how she's feeling in general and see if you can work together to help her feel better. Remember that when you do your own thing or scout evenings, you give them your full attention. You say that you are doing housework or childcare until later in the evening, and then you watch TV. That's not quality time together if she feels lonely. She could help herself, but maybe when pregnant she needs some leeway and extra support?

Youngandfree · 15/05/2019 18:42

My DH works at sea 3 weeks away and 3 weeks home. When he is at work he might get ashore 2/3 times for a few pints with some of the crew. When he is home we might go on a date night once or maybe twice (sometimes we don’t manage a date night at all. He doesn’t really play sports at all so now hobbies like that. And to be honest he had no male friends where we live as all his friends are in other countries now (as is he technically too) so in theory my dh doesn’t go out at all really (unless it’s with me) I have much more of a social life to be honest as I friends from work that I can meet, friends from school/college that I meet with too! He’s not bothered though.

mike3 · 15/05/2019 18:43

Did you cut back for the first few months? If not, is there resentment about a stag do when she was 2 weeks post partum or something?

I wouldn't personally have 2 "commitment" hobbies, that she can't ask you to skip if she has had a rough day, for an under 1 yo.

Closetbeanmuncher · 15/05/2019 18:46

I don't think that's excessive...

Would you and your wife consider quitting the scout group?

Pregnancy takes it's toll on your body and energy levels, she probably just feels a bit lonely and vulnerable.

honeylulu · 15/05/2019 18:47

I wonder if she's a bit jealous that you gave more opportunities to go out. That was me when I was in that position. When I had my first child, so did most of my friends and none of then wanted to go out in the evenings or weekends. My husband's best friend and two brothers were still single, childless and boozy, so he had lots of people badgering him to go to the pub, watch football etc.

When I used to moan about being left on my own again he'd say "why dont you have a turn at going out?" But I didn't have anywhere to go or anyone to go with ...

Things have changed. Our eldest is a teen. Husband's mates are more staid and settled, mine have had a new lease of life and I am out a lot more and he gets a bit jealous if the fun I'm having sometimes.

Seeline · 15/05/2019 18:51

You say your wife wants more 'us' time. She doesn't seem to be complaining that she hasn't got a social life.

Maybe she doesn't see 'us' time as sitting watching TV. When do you go out as a couple? Do you have anyone to babysit?

I agree with others that she is probably exhausted, still getting used to be a mum, and very hormonal, so perhaps don't take it too much to heart at the moment.

Whoops75 · 15/05/2019 18:58

Similar to my dh

But when ours were under 5 it was less.

I think you should step back from the scouts and let that he her thing.
You could rejoin once your children are going.

I think she’s asking you to chose her more, she’s pregnant and probably feeling off form. A bit of reassuring and making her a priority will stand to ye.