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Separated but scared to move on.

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KOKOtiltomorrow · 10/05/2019 13:04

Long post alert to hopefully avoid drip feeding. I've been responding to a few threads which are similar to my own circumstances but thought I would start my own to get some perspective/advice/insight from others who might have gone through similar.

Brief background for context: with H nearly 25 years, 2 young adult DC (one at home, one at Uni in halls). Very good lifestyle, financially comfortable, both good jobs, good social circle etc. Until he left, he frequently talked about what a great life he had etc. BUT……I have always felt second best, in part due to my low self esteem and in part due to him always prioritising others over me/our DC. We had the same argument every year but nothing changed and I became very resentful and argumentative. End result was he started an emotional affair with a woman he had known in a previous job (although she didn’t actually work with him) after she moved back into the area and he met he in a pub one night. We continued to argue and in full disclosure, I admit I was exhibiting what I can now see was abusive behaviour – stonewalling mainly but also pulling him up unnecessarily and finding fault in things which were really minor. So what I am saying is, I was not completely innocent and in fact, my behaviour could be construed as abusive whereas his would probably be seen as thoughtless/inconsiderate type thing.

Where we are now. He left last August to start a physical affair with this woman. He denied there being anyone else at the time but I knew there had to be due to his habits changing – I know him better than he knows himself! He got drunk one night and told a friend who told his wife – she told him to tell me in 2 weeks or she would – he chickened out, kept denying and lying to everyone so she told me, I confronted and he admitted it. After the initial excitement wore off, he came running back, telling me everything I wanted to hear and moved back in – but nothing changed and I asked him to move back out about 2 months later. He went straight back to her despite all the negative things he told me about the relationship not being right and she was not like what he thought she would be (Doh!). We are now a couple of months down the line and his contact is getting more frequent again – asking to come and see the DC (although they go out to meet him on their own), asking me if I am okay, offering to help with car problems etc. He then dropped the bombshell that he acknowledges he didn’t try hard enough through the marriage and when he moved back in. He is still seeing OW albeit infrequently. He wants us to try again.

So this is my query. I know he is being an arse and mucking us both about. I know what he is doing is shit and selfish and all about him. I know that I probably would never trust him again and would probably not be able to get over him sleeping with someone else.

But at the same time, our lives (me, him and DC) would be better IF we could make it work – and I think it is this that is holding me back from moving on. I also feel guilty because my behaviour in the year or so before the split was poor. It’s almost like I am afraid to stop loving him and let go and I actually at this moment feel more afraid of getting over him than I am of still wanting him – that is the crux of my problem, if that makes sense. I startled myself last week when I found myself looking at a man at work and thinking of him being attractive. Until now, I’ve always thought I would never find anyone attractive or want to be with another man but now I can imagine moving forward with someone else.

Has anyone else been through this and how did you deal with it? As I said, I know his current actions are appalling so I don’t necessarily need that repeated – what I want from this post is how I can help myself in this situation by moving on. Thanks.

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KOKOtiltomorrow · 10/05/2019 18:22

Shamelessly bumping.....I need help!!!

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Startoftheyear2019 · 10/05/2019 18:28

Just to help until wiser heads come along. It sounds like he's using you because you're available. If you research the 'pick me dance' on the internet you might find it helpful. Own your own future. Your kids are nearly flown and the rest of your life is yours to lead. My idiot ex left after 25 years together and I'm not sure I'll ever be able to move on, but I certainly wouldn't take him back. I'm happier single and free. Good luck 💐

KOKOtiltomorrow · 10/05/2019 18:35

@Startoftheyear2019...thank you for responding. I totally get where you are coming from. But I feel a slight shift today...like I could move on. I hope you will feel that soon

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Startoftheyear2019 · 10/05/2019 22:08

Bumping in case anyone else can help.

sausage1968 · 10/05/2019 23:44

my idiot husband has decided after 30 years he wants to be free....show off his muscles and weigh his chicken....typical mid life crisus

sausage1968 · 10/05/2019 23:44

crisis..sorry

Startoftheyear2019 · 11/05/2019 07:22

Ugh, some men are idiots @sausage1968, hang in there 💐

OneFootintheRave · 11/05/2019 08:05

OP you are lucky that you are feeling the stirrings of attraction to someone other than your husband. From what I have read on here, many women are hung up on their ex for years.

Your husband has not prioritised you for years you say. Tell him to stay with the OW or go wherever. You'll be fine and happier on your own.

OneFootintheRave · 11/05/2019 08:06

@sausage1968 what does "weigh his chicken" mean?

Tweennightmare · 11/05/2019 08:21

Hi I am in the middle of a separation and a lot of what you said resonates with me. Particularly in relation to feeling second best. I guess it comes down to wether you could see this reconciliation making a difference. For me I think we would just end up in the same position again a year /two years down the line .
Have you tried counselling maybe an outside influence could help you see clearly and help you decide what you want
Take things slowly maybe if you do decide to try again go back to basics dating etc and make sure you make the decision on your terms

Weenurse · 11/05/2019 08:33

Maybe try counseling to see why you were behaving that way.
Then try couples counseling.
Good luck

Justbreathing · 11/05/2019 08:36

I can’t believe you would let this man back after he’s gone back to her twice. God only knows what he’s told her.
He just wants his cake and to eat it.

sausage1968 · 11/05/2019 10:13

he's been gym obsessed for years...all his food is meticulously weighed ..myself and grown up sons have always come second but his obsession suddenly hit the next level when he turned 50

KOKOtiltomorrow · 12/05/2019 10:59

Thanks for the responses and apologies for not responding sooner - I was diagnosed with a chronic but not "deadly" condition last year and was unwell yesterday - this is actually one of the reasons for me wishing it could work - if we were together, I could afford to go part time but as two separate individuals with two homes etc., that wont be happening.

@Startoftheyear2019 - yes, I think I am doing the pick me dance - I already heard of it and I think because I don't wear make up/try look my best when he visits I've convinced myself I'm not - but I think I am in other ways

@sausage1968 and OneFootintheRave.....weigh his chicken - that made me howl - thank you - I think we have discovered a new euphemism!! My quandary is that IF we could make it work, I could have such a good life - but can we? Will I be happier on my own? I'm having difficulty seeing that.

@tweennightmare - sorry you are going through this. I am unhappy without him but was also unhappy with him.

@weenurse - agree, I need to work out why I let him prioritise me all those years and why I didn't act sooner before I got so resentful and horrible (I suspect I know a little about why this might be but a professional insight might help).

@Justbreathing - I know what you are saying - I want to try and understand why I would even contemplate that.

I am scared that my reluctance to let go completely and move on is that I still love him and want him back. I have tried to talk myself out of this but every time I think about a future without him, I wish we could make it work......but I just don't think we can!

How do I move forward???Is it a case of fake it til you make it? Its a real heart/head dilemma and I don't want to cut off my nose to spite my face Sad

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Justbreathing · 12/05/2019 20:33

You may want him back. Your heart sort of wants him back.
But really think about the reality of it. Walking on eggshells. Waiting for the next time he leaves. Constant anxiety

What you probably want is for it all to go away and not have happened. But sadly this is the only bit you can’t change.

KOKOtiltomorrow · 12/05/2019 21:33

@Justbreathing.....thanks....I suspect you are right. Need to live in reality not "what if".....

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