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No contact with MIL

16 replies

BadmintonBadass · 08/05/2019 18:10

This will be a long thread but I’d e grateful if anyone is able to offer any advice!
Been with OH 10yrs, always had quite a tricky relationship with In-laws. So as not to drip feed, OH had a pretty horrible childhood highlights of which include his mum leaving with his siblings (but leaving him behind), allowing her boyfriend to push him around, his siblings got into drugs/left school at about 13 to be “home schooled” (except they weren’t, they were doing drugs who knows where) lots of general instability and moving between his mums house, his dads house, his grans etc, all pretty dire
On the back of all this I’ve never had a great opinion of her but always tried to get on with her when I saw her. I did start to get a flavour of how awful she could be when a few years ago she started telling various members of OH’s family that he had a serious illness (he doesn’t). She has a tendency to dramatise things so much they become a completely different story to the actual truth. She has a well known history of playing people off against each other, running from house to house spreading falsehoods and planting seeds in peoples minds to make them mistrust each other.
If she has ever been questioned, right on cue she will burst into tears and everyone backs off and whoever has accused her is seen as a bully.
Throughout my pregnancy, she was slating me. She kept trying to force her way in, and when I politely held back, she would bleat to anyone who would give her 5mins how awful I was.
When I gave birth to DD, despite being told clearly we weren’t ready fo visitors after a traumatic delivery and having had no time alone as a new family/I wasn’t dressed etc, she still burst into my cubicle bold as brass.
There was the stereotypical unwelcome MIL behaviour of taking baby off me every chance she got for cuddles and refusing to return her when she cried, which I hated, she would constantly (as in daily) text/call, constantly try to muscle in on absolutely everything I was doing with DD, and if the answer was no she would get other members of the family to put pressure on me to agree. She would ask questions like whether OH was on the birth certificate, when OH told her I had PND she would turn up at the door and whisper if I was in or if I’d “been taken into hospital” insinuating I was mental.
At any family gathering there would be constant put downs, constant passive aggression, people looked at me like I had two heads and would make comments based on untrue things she had said. I literally couldn’t stand it any more.
The straw that broke the camels back was FIL (her ex husband who for reasons unknown is still her loyal servant despite her many affairs) referring to DD as “it” and questioning her paternity, on the back of poison MIL had been dripping in his ear.
I suffered from horrendous PND and I’m sure at least some of it was due to her behaviour. She made me feel like I wasn’t DD’s mum, and like I had no right to assert myself in any way. I constantly worry that if I allow her contact with DD, she will turn her against me too.
I’ve been no contact with her for 6 months, and she refuses to accept it. I’ve blocked her from my phone, so she sends cards and parcels. It’s like she’s trying to force me to have contact with her.
This isn’t a decision I’ve taken lightly. I genuinely can’t take another day of this woman’s games and the effect it’s had on my mental health has been enormous.
I guess I’m just looking for some sort of reassurance I’ve done the right thing?!

OP posts:
mbosnz · 08/05/2019 18:13

Yup. You have. Your DH backing you up?

She sounds batsh*t crazy. You sound eminently sane and reasonable.

octonoughtcake3 · 08/05/2019 18:13

I think you have definitely done the right thing.

Are the parcels coming through the post?
I would put cards straight in the bin and send parcels unopened to the charity shop.

AbbieLexie · 08/05/2019 18:14

Yes with bells - please remain NC. Flowers Flowers Flowers

BadmintonBadass · 08/05/2019 18:29

Thankyou - OH is changeable, sometimes he says he gets it, other times he says I’m overreacting. He admits he is conditioned to being used to her bad behaviour.
I cannot bear the idea of my precious DD around this woman, but I’m also so scared she will resent me for not allowing contact when she’s older.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/05/2019 18:31

Toxic parents more often than not become toxic as grandparent figures too.

You have absolutely done the right thing in blocking both your MIL and her secondary abuser and willing enabler, this being her ex H here.

Do not acknowledge any unwanted presents in any way; you must maintain radio silence. What such disordered people like his mother want from you is a response; this to them is the reward.

You may also want to read and/or post on the "well we took you to Stately Homes" thread.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/05/2019 18:35

"I cannot bear the idea of my precious DD around this woman, but I’m also so scared she will resent me for not allowing contact when she’s older"

Why would you think this?. If his mother is too toxic for you to deal with, its the same deal for your child too. Your DD is relying on your good judgment here and in this case you have acted wisely. You have to protect her from such malign influences, look at how your OH has turned out. He has been and remains profoundly affected by his mother's behaviours and has fear, obligation and guilt re her in spades. You do not want your DD to be similarly affected.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/05/2019 18:36

Parcels should indeed be taken immediately to the charity shop or otherwise disposed of; do not give these items any more power.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 08/05/2019 18:47

Having read your account I think you'd be negligent if you didn't go NC.

You'd be mad to expose yourself or DC to this ghastly woman. She will do you nothing but harm. Congratulations on your decision.

foreverhanging · 08/05/2019 18:51

You've absolutely done the right thing op

Aussiebean · 08/05/2019 18:55

My mother won’t see my children and she isn’t as bad as that.

Good call. Protect your baby.

BadmintonBadass · 08/05/2019 19:15

Thankyou for your replies. What makes it harder also is OH’s family all feel sorry for her and I’m painted as the wicked DIL, and it’s just not true.
My mind races ahead to the future, when DD is older and has questions. I know in my heart this woman is toxic and I’m certain in knowing I don’t want her in our lives, but there’s always this anxiety that she will work her way back in. For example if me and OH ever split, she would have access to DD on days when she is with OH?

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Aussiebean · 08/05/2019 19:55

That’s were you teach her about the difference between toxic and healthy relationships.

What do they look like, how they make you feel, how harmful they can be, the consequences of them.

All good conversations to have anyway, whether you break up or not.

Sic99 · 06/12/2019 20:29

I don't think you need to worry about DD. I have similar story. Manipulative and constantly shit stirring. It broke my relationship and she won. These people live in denial. Do you care if others believe the bullshit? I guess difficult if they are all part of your lives. I blowtorched everyone and if they think I'm a bitch, frankly fuck them. Think judgemental people can f the f off. But my example is one where everything completely collapsed. I wish I had dine what you did when we were together. I didn't set the right boundaries and chaos ensued. So much more damaging. Good luck. She's horrendous and won't change, by the sounds of it. Xx

Kitty2020 · 06/12/2019 20:58

Is your OH in contact with his DM?
Does he want your DC to be in contact with her?

What is worrying you now that you are having a wobble? Is it Christmas?

Are there times/events where your paths will/could cross? Does this cause you anxiety or do you have a plan?

You have done brilliantly. Keep up the silence. It does get easier over time and it is the best decision. Your MiL sounds like she has BPD. There are forums for people trying to cope with NC - you might well need that support to get you through some of the tougher days.

Lots of people have PND - I hope that you are getting support, looking after yourself and breaking the back of it.

Kitty2020 · 06/12/2019 21:06

I would also turn your back on your OH family if they are a risk to hurting you emotionally. If they feed info both ways, judge you or are complicit in her abuse then they are just too much hard work for you.

Your headspace needs to be cleared of all preoccupation of their toxicity - right now your own MH needs restoration. That’s the priority so that you can be fully attuned and bonded to your baby.

We all have finite emotional reserves each time MIL, OH family upset you this means you have less to give to emotionally nourish your baby. Don’t tell them steal these precious early days - or any days actually.

Dery · 07/12/2019 08:45

You have done absolutely the right thing. Your MIL is an abuser. She may well have had an appalling childhood herself and then repeated the cycle on her family enabled by her codependent DP. None of them know what healthy looks like and they clearly all need shit loads of therapy and should all be in addiction support groups. Your husband needed to break the cycle and it is your strength that is enabling him to achieve that - God forbid that she should impose herself on your DD’s life. Sounds like you’re the first person to stand up to her. It’s hard but ignore the ignorant bile of those who don’t understand. You are your daughter’s shield. Hope the PND is lifting - I bet your MIL played a significant part in that. The early stages of first time parenthood are challenging enough without all the additional sh1t you’ve had to face: you’re amazing and your DD is lucky to have you as her mum. Firstly, don’t worry about things that may never happen. Secondly, it’s hard to imagine when your child is just a baby, but children have a lot of innate wisdom so if you do ever have to explain the situation to your DD she will probably understand it, and it sounds like your DH isn’t a huge fan of his DM so would keep his contact to a minimum in any case.

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