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Partner on paternity leave. Not pulling his weight.

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Mumtobe193 · 05/05/2019 12:08

Really need to have a rant. Absolutely furious with my partner's selfish attitude.

Our son was born last Friday, he is our second child, we already have a DD who is 3. We live miles away from my family, when I was pregnant my mum offered to come and stay with us shortly after DS was born to help out, we politely declined her offer. OH likes his own space, and I quite liked the idea of us being alone and having some quality bonding time as a family of 4. OH was useless after the birth of our first DD and I relied heavily on my mum for support, but this time around OH promised me that he'd be a 'better man' and he'd pull his weight, and I believed he would, it's not turned out that way.

I had quite a quick easy labour with DS and felt far better than I'd imagined I would afterwards. The worse thing I could have done is admit this to OH. As easy as my labour was I still expected a bit of pampering and praise when I got home from hospital. I just pushed a human being out of my vagina for gods sake! But my OH hasnt even so much as offered me a cup of tea, or a kind word. It's been expected that I get stuck back in to household chores and childcare from the moment I stepped through the front door after having DS, and I have received zero thanks for all I've done.

Since coming home I've juggled BF'ing DS on demand, with countless loads of laundry, I've hoovered, prepared several meals, bathed both kids with no help from OH, done 99.9% of nappy changes, washed dishes wiped surfaces, cleaned toilets etc etc. OH has put away one load of laundry and ran the hoover around once and sulked like a teenager whilst doing so after being nagged and nagged to help out.

Whenever he prepares a meal it usually involves chucking a frozen pizza in the oven. Which I really don't mind tbh, only he seems to think that's his license to put his feet up and do nothing for the rest of the evening and it is therefore up to me to wash dishes and put DD to bed as he 'made dinner'.

I'm BF'ing DS so night feeds are completely up to me, the first couple of nights after being home from hospital he was great, he got up with me, chatted to me, got me glasses of water, helped me change him, winded him etc. Now that's all gone out of the window, and he just lies there and leaves me to it. When he is back at work I don't expect him to get up in the night at all, but during his paternity I do expect at least a little help in the night. Yes I am BF'ing, but that doesn't mean that OH isn't capable of changing the odd nappy in the night so I can lie back down again.

In fairness to him he has been good at occupying DD. But that is about all he does. & although he's great at playing with her, it lasts for all of about 20 mins before he gets bored and hands her her ipad so he can stare at his phone with his feet up for a good couple of hours, or stand in the garden puffing away on his e-cig, while simultaneously ignoring me picking up mess around him with a fussy baby permanently attatched to my tit!

He has drank roughly 6 out of the last 8 nights which has pissed me off no end! He hasn't actually got drunk, but I do feel drinking 4 cans of beers most nights is excessive, especially for someone who is supposed to be helping care for a young child and a newborn. It's not a holiday after all.

But the thing that has really pushed me over the edge happened this morning. DS seems to be 'cluster feeding' so I was up every hour on the hour between 10pm and 5am last night, he finally slept for a 4 hour stretch and woke up at 9am, I fed him, changed his nappy and clothes for the day, his crying woke DD, she's starving wanting her breakfast, DS was becoming increasingly unsettled and I couldn't calm him down, I nudged OH and asked if he could either take DS and try and settle him or take DD down for her breakfast. He refused to do either despite snoring away all night, said he was having a lie in as it was Sunday morning. This was at 9:40am, I dont think I was asking much. I actually can't effing believe him! My blood is still boiling. Anyway I took DD down poured her a bowl of cereal with screaming DS in my arms, wasn't too much trouble, but not the point. Why should I struggle if he's supposed to be around to help me? DD is currently watching CBeebies and I've just settled DS. I've only just managed to get a cup of tea in peace and OH is only just emerging from his pit 🙄

Also I seem to be suffering from a really bad case of the 'baby blues' every day since roughly day 3/4 when my milk camekn, it will get to around 5pm'ish and I will just sit in my bedroom in floods of tears, and I'm on a really short fuse during the day (although I suspect OH's attitude has something to do with that aswell) OH has been less than supportive, I would absolutely love for someone to wrap their arms around me and tell me I'm doing a great job but OH is incapable of giving praise or affection, I've found myself really wishing I'd have had my mum here after all, as I'm feeling really low and getting worse with each passing day, I've found myself wishing I was back in hospital with DS as there are days I just don't want to leave my room but I feel I have to. Although I feel physically well, emotionally I am struggling, and I've really no one to talk to, no family around, no friends. My mum is only a phone call away which is great, but what I really want is love and support from my OH which I'm just not getting.

Just wanted to get all of this off my chest. Sorry for the long rant.

OP posts:
Motheroffeminists · 14/05/2019 09:29

@PJMasksAreOnTheirWay because he's got male privilege and entitlement.
OP, please kick him out to his parents. He's not mature enough to be a dad and is showing you how little he values or respects you. My exH used to do similar and his dad was a total sap who used to enable him to run off and hide from his responsibilities. I had another child once he'd left and I was a single mum. I can honestly say that even with pnd it was easier raising 3 alone, e en with a ebf newborn, than it was raising the first two with him around. My mum helped for the first 6 days the. I was totally on my own.
You will be better on your own but get your mum yo help and tell your twat of a husband to stay at his parents' house.
Congratulations on the birth of your baby Thanks

GummyGoddess · 14/05/2019 09:32

If it's for comfort, can I suggest nipple shields? They should give your nipples a bit of a break.

Definitely call your mum to come asap. If she can't, can any of your friends come over this morning? If you were my friend I'd want to help.

Get rid of the useless partner. Doing it all on your own is easier when there's not another adult around that could help but won't. Plus you would get a few hours sleep when he has contact with the children.

katmarie · 14/05/2019 09:39

I would have sent my son back to his partner and children with his tail between his legs if he showed up at mine looking for a decent nights sleep because there was a new born in the house. We all do odd things when sleep deprived but tbh I don't see that he even has that excuse given that hes not been supporting is partner at night at all.

OP if you let him back through the door now you're going to need to be very sure things will change, otherwise what are you really gaining from him being there?

And look at it this way, you made it through last night without him. If you can do that, you can do anything without him. Hope you're all getting some rest x

hellsbellsmelons · 14/05/2019 09:42

Could your mum come and help you?
Could you get to her?
I'd be there if you were my DD.
If she can then text your fucking useless prick of DH and tell him not to bother coming home.
You will leave some clothes out for him but you don't want to see his face.
Get your mum round for some love and hugs and support.
This is sooooooo out of order I'm almost speechless!
And the fact you have to even ask is very telling.

LemonBreeland · 14/05/2019 09:43

I hope his parents to tear strips off him and tell him he needs to sort himself out. However, I imagine he is at least partly this way down to their parenting.

Agree with others, tell him to stay away until he is prepared to step up and be a husband and father. I am absolutely furious on your behalf.

PlinkPlink · 14/05/2019 09:44

CALL YOUR MUM OP!!

Ffs what kind of person leaves someone 'to catch up on sleep' after they've given birth and are ebf?!

I really do think you need to reassess things when you're feeling a little more rested.

Ask yourself this question: how different is this to raising your kids alone? You do all the housework, all the meals, all the childcare, all the feeds, all the nappies.

Precisely what about your life is different to being a single mum? Your OH is essentially another child you have to take care of.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 14/05/2019 11:21

What a monumental arsehole.

Call your Mum ASAP and ask for help.

Call your 'DH' and tell him to stay where he fucking is. Selfish bastard.

Dullardmullard · 14/05/2019 13:36

Will he rock up after work thinking all is ok does he do this normally?

I'd text him one message

do not come home we are done.

Have you called in support yet as i would asap?

Watch for him being charming and nice don't fall for it as its only so he can come back and revert to normal again.

Mumtobe193 · 14/05/2019 15:11

So the in laws turned up to take DD off my hands for a few hours so I can catch up on some sleep (at OH's request, not their idea) FIL came in the house and started defending OH's actions. 'He has to work, he needs sleep, you can't expect him to be up with babies all night then work etc etc etc' I told him he never helped me when he was off work on paternity so ...
And I also explained how bad the situation was last night with baby crying for hours on end and DD in and out of my room crying herself, & I was desperate for support, I got the impression from his reaction that he thinks I'm dramatising the whole situation ...

I'm furious, if I wasn't so desperate for sleep I'd have told them not to bother taking DD.

As somebody else on this thread has pointed out, OH is most likely the way he is down to poor parenting, FIL has made excuses for him for as long as I've known him and he probably always will.

I haven't spoken to my mum, and I can't jump in the car and go see her because she lives a plane ride away. I'm in two minds whether it's worth soeaking to her as she has a lot on her plate herself and she is a chronic worrier, and knowing that I'm struggling and she can only do so much to help me will cause her unnecessary grief. I dont have any friends in the area, well, none that I am close enough to to confide in or ask for help (which is part of the reason I'm venting on mn because I've no one to talk to)

I'm sat here feeding DS AGAIN! & I'm fantasising about just packing a bag and jumping on the next flight home with DS and DD, back to where i have a solid support system. Wish I was brave enough to do it ...

I would leave OH tomorrow, but things are never that simple are they? Especially not where kids are involved

OP posts:
DrinkFeckArseGirls · 14/05/2019 15:16

He has to work - so do you. You need to be lucid to keep two little children safe. Unless your OH is a surgeon or long distance lorry driver, he can get up at night too. And lazy git didn't even lift a finger during the maternity leave.

NabooThatsWho · 14/05/2019 15:17

Tell your mum. I think she will be glad to help you. If your DD was in this position would you want her to suffer in silence?

As for leaving your ‘D’H, no it won’t be easy, it won’t be simple. But it is do-able. He brings nothing of value to your life it seems. Would it be worse if he wasn’t there?

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 14/05/2019 15:20

I'm fantasising about just packing a bag and jumping on the next flight home with DS and DD

Do it. Even if just for a couple of weeks. Get some rest. Get some support. Stick 2 fingers up at useless, lazy DH. And his sodding parents.

Merchant · 14/05/2019 15:21

If I was you, I’d be jumping on that plane. Go and get some support/sleep. You’re not tied to school for the kids so go and get a break. Come back when you feel ready.

Nc1548 · 14/05/2019 15:25

It's not easy OP but it starts with a plan and little steps. It starts with defining the boundaries of what's acceptable and what's not. He left the house and turned his phone off. With you struggling a 2 little DCs. You need to tell people in real life. Not his parents, but people who love you and support you and will see this for what it is.
You are not being remotely unreasonable and you can see that pretty much everyone here is shocked and disgusted by his behaviour.

Nc1548 · 14/05/2019 15:29

And please don't be grateful that he outsourced the support he should be giving you by asking his parents to come brainwash you help.

WhoKnewBeefStew · 14/05/2019 15:31

Your biggest problem (aside from a lazy shut of a dh) is that you are enabling him. Why oh why are you doing all the housework, washing looking after your toddler etc etc. Just stop cooking and washing his clothes for him!!!

Either that It pack up your baby and go to your mums until he’s back at work. Leave him to look after your other dc so you get some one in one time with your baby.

I’m not surprised you’ve got the baby blues. Are you sure it’s not lazy bastard dh blues

NabooThatsWho · 14/05/2019 15:35

What is stopping you flying home? What are you scared of?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 14/05/2019 15:36

"I would leave OH tomorrow, but things are never that simple are they? Especially not where kids are involved"

Do you want to teach your kids such crappy lessons about relationships too. Staying with this person (who ran off to his parents) for the sake of the children is a really bad idea, you are not staying for you.

And as for his dad defending him, well like father like son.

Get on the plane with your kids and go back to a proper support system. This relationship you have with this man is over really bar the shouting.

averythinline · 14/05/2019 15:40

He's shite ...shame you believed his crap about being better this time...
I think at this stage you have 2 options- he has a chance to redeem himself or not....

  1. you tell him if he doesnt step up you are packing a bag and heading home to where you have support- your DD is not at school you are not tied here..
  2. you pack a bag and go without offering him the chance to redeem himself as a father and partner....

either way you cant continue as you are ...you will be compleetly exhausted (and its not to do with ebf - its do do with a shit partner) and no use to DD or DS...

at teh minimum he needs to be doing the laundry/food/DD and DS bed/bath time....does he not want to bond with DS at all? spend some time with DD ...never mind support you emotionally....really sad

AttilaTheMeerkat · 14/05/2019 15:40

What is the situation re the property and finances?.

This man needs to be gone from your life permanently and I would seriously consider giving both children your surname now rather than his. You do not need to hand over any more power and control to him than you have already.

Dullardmullard · 14/05/2019 15:41

if I was your mum and I'm a chronic worrier too. Id want you on the plane asap so I could look after you and the kids,

You need to tell your partner this can't go on or he leaves. yes, hard cos of the kids but can be done as he'll have to step up then and do his share when he has contact.

He can't ask his parents to come over and his father makes excuses for him ffs. That isn't on at all. I would have lost it there and then and told them to fuck off.

now get on that plane and have someone that actually cares about you take care of you.

Sunshinegirl82 · 14/05/2019 15:46

Going to your mum now doesn't mean it has to be permanent if you don't feel ready to make that decision. Right now you are in a crisis situation. Get to your mum's, get some sleep and some support.

Once you're a bit more rested you can think about the bigger picture but right now you need to take action to ensure your own wellbeing. Your DH is not going to suddenly step up and start behaving like a decent partner, you have to prioritise yourself and your DC.

Take care of yourself.

billybagpuss · 14/05/2019 16:06

l’m fantasising about just packing a bag and jumping on the next flight home with DS and DD, back to where i have a solid support system. Wish I was brave enough to do it

The thing that resonates with me here is the use of the word ‘home’

Do it, go home and feel safe and loved 💐

pallisers · 14/05/2019 16:15

Go back to your mother for a rest. Personally I probably wouldn't be bothered telling him I was going. I can't believe he got up in the night and left you there with a newborn and a toddler. I'm not sure I could come back from that utter lack of responsibility, unkindness and selfishness. That his parents didn't either (a) tell him to get his ass back to you or (b) drive over themselves immediately to make sure you were alright tells you he was reared to be like this. He won't change. You might be able to see more clearly when you are at home with your mum and not having him sitting there being worse than useless giving you the rage.

pudding21 · 14/05/2019 16:40

I guess OP doesn't have a passport for the baby yet, so she can't fly.

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