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Help me make sense of this

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SuprinsinglyScarred · 01/05/2019 08:29

When I was 12/13 I had a ‘relationship’ with my best friend at the time. I think it’s left me with a lot of issues but I’m still far too embarrassed/ashamed about the whole thing to ever discuss it with anyone. Even writing this (with NC) makes me feel terrible.

Anna (not real name) and I met in our first year of secondary school. We did some clubs together and we quickly became part of the same close group of friends. I really worshipped her. I was so excited to have finally found friends that I had lots in common with and who were a bit more ‘alternative’ like me.

Some time towards the beginning of year 8 I started self harming. So did Anna. I can’t remember who did it first. We were part of the generation who first grew up with the internet and had parents who didn’t understand internet safety because they hadn’t ever really needed to. Safesearch and parental controls basically didn’t exist. We had pretty much unfiltered access to content about things like self harm and pornography. This has definitely had a huge effect on me as I have grown up and think it was the reason I started self harming. I would do it in secret. Anna on the other hand was more overt. At sleepovers she would demand that I gave her a razor or scissors because she ‘needed to cut’. She kept a diary and would let me read it. It was pages and pages which were either overtly sexual or talking about hurting herself. She claimed to be schizophrenic. As a 12/13 year old I was terrified for her, that she was having all these awful intrusive thoughts and voices in her head, and would not tell an adult.

There was another girl too, Emily. She had met Anna online (we met her in real life so she definitely was a teenage girl!) and was 2 or 3 years older than us. She had a lot of mental health issues herself. We had a secret message board and it was full of her posting self ha pictures and porn. Her and Anna had a very close relationship and I think she egged her on a lot.

Our relationship became physically intimate at some point in year 8. I have tried to frame this as harmless experimentation over and over again but I feel so dirty and ashamed when I think about it. It’s not an issue with my sexuality, I’ve had relationships with women since and been perfectly happy. It’s the intensity of the emotions and the fact that I was not capable of handling or understanding what was going on. Anna is a few weeks younger than me. I’ve always had it in my head that I am guilty of statutory rape because I was older, and because I turned 13 first which is the cut off for a more serious crime. I still feel like one day this will catch up with me.

But I still feel manipulated and pressured by her. She broke things off after about 6 months. She went around telling everyone at school that I did rape her. She told me that she had made up all of the mental health problems and that she was never suicidal, and never heard voices. I had been so consumed by helping her and I fell to pieces. She moved on and quickly threw herself into a (physical and on reflection, widely inappropriate) relationship with a 16 year old boy. It took months for me to rebuild any kind of friendships, my reputation as completely shattered, and I feel like part of me is still stuck in this horrible emotional place, over a decade later.

I don’t understand how all of this happened. Where were our parents? Why didn’t our teachers recognise that there were issues? I know I have to take some responsibility but we were children. I feel like we should have been protected from ourselves. I shouldn’t still feel so confused and hurt after all these years, should I? I feel so ashamed.

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Peridot1 · 01/05/2019 08:41

Oh love. None of it was your fault. Nor Anna’s tbh. You were both very young. At a very emotional and confused time for most of us. Add in what sounds like a mixed up and manipulative girl and the internet and you can end up where you did.

It def sounds like Anna had issues as did Emily.

You were not to blame. It doesn’t sound like you forced her into a physical relationship to me.

As to where your parents and teachers were - as you say people didn’t necessarily know that all of this stuff was going on on the internet. I know of a very switched on teacher who had no idea that her dd was self harming and had an eating disorder and was suicidal at times. Sadly she only found out after her 15 year old dd committed suicide. And this was fairly recently when as parents we are and should be more aware. She had no idea. Found it all out afterwards.

Counselling might help if you can access it. Or if not maybe write a letter to your teenage self with advice and most importantly forgiveness. Might sound a bit odd but sometimes the act of putting pen to paper can help more than we know.

katy78 · 01/05/2019 08:50

It is my understanding that there is not an issue here for statutory rape just because you were 13 and she was 12, almost 13. The Crown Prosecution guidelines state "[I]t is not in the public interest to prosecute children who are of the same or similar age and understanding that engage in sexual activity, where the activity is truly consensual for both parties and there are no aggravating features, such as coercion or corruption."

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 01/05/2019 08:55

None of this is your fault. It's nobody's fault. You were all in the intense pressure cooker of adolescent self harm and raging hormones. The way Anna behaved after she ended the relationship was pretty crap, but teenagers can be horrible.

As for legal repercussions, I don't know where you live but I think it's highly unlikely anyone would prosecute a 13 year old for sexual contact with a girl weeks younger. How would they prove it, anyway?

Endlessly analysing the past is unlikely to get you anywhere. I have some weird traumas in my past too. I mentally file it under "Shit happens" and I recommend you do too.

Sn0tnose · 01/05/2019 15:50

we were children. If you’re feeling like you are to blame for anything that happened then, you should re-read this sentence in your post. You simply didn’t have the tools to deal with self harm, other people’s mental health, pornography, sexual relationships etc. You didn’t do anything wrong.

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