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Aibu - husband or me who is U?

39 replies

Namechanger385u4o · 28/04/2019 05:45

Firstly just checking name change

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InceyWinceyette · 28/04/2019 10:05

“If we didnt have dc i wouldnt see him that often tbh.”

How do you mean?

OP, YANBU, it sounds as if he has responded to the inevitable changes due to having kids by just going out without you, and not prioritising any family time. It does wreck your Sunday if he comes in at 6am shitfaced: another day doing your Sahm job alone.

Does he have a drunk issue per se?

It is reasonable for both of you to go out and see friends. But it shouldn’t be all kind way and he needs to understand your life and the importance of family time.

No point talking to him today.

A calm serious talk, and if it doesn’t work couples counselling?

JenniferJareau · 28/04/2019 10:07

Sounds to me like you and he have different ideas of how you want to live your lives. Was he up for the settling down and family idea and changed his mind?

Singlenotsingle · 28/04/2019 10:09

I had an Ex like that, Peaches. We'd go out to do a bit of shopping on a Saturday, but somehow he had to see someone in the pub to do a "bit of business", and he'd stay there til evening and stagger home. He died early at 59. ( I'd left him long ago!)

Namechanger385u4o · 28/04/2019 10:48

I said the thing about not seeing him as he used to work til 10pm ish every night then would go for work drinks thurs or fri then out on sat too (tbf i would often come out too when i was younger) in bed the rest of the time

I keep telling him he's going to get liver damage but he says he won't.

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Circlegame · 28/04/2019 10:54

Is he intending to change anything when you have this baby?

ChristmasFluff · 28/04/2019 11:15

I'm just in awe at the number of Cool Wives on this thread who are fine with their partner going out til the next morning, unannounced.

Woe betide a pregnant mother wondering what the hell had happened to her husband when he doesn't come home after going for 'a few drinks'. Don't phone him! After all, it's not possible that he might be dead in a ditch of alcohol poisoning - how ridiculous of you to be worried and not able to sleep!

The patriarchy have you well-trained.

OP, you are not being unreasonable at all.

SignedUpJust4This · 28/04/2019 11:21

Exactly what Xmas fluff said. This is awful behaviour

InceyWinceyette · 28/04/2019 11:34

“he used to work til 10pm ish every night then would go for work drinks thurs or fri then out on sat too (tbf i would often come out too when i was younger) in bed the rest of the time”

Right. So he started out drinking too much and being a bit shit as a partner and he has carried on even though he is now a Dad.

You have to decide what your red line is, OP. Do you want to / are you willing to live like this until the children are semi-independent?

Think through your options and what you want from him. Once the new baby is of a certain age can you go back to work? Never mind the childcare cost, if he is a good earner it is there to enable him as well as you to work and earn.

Working gives you a level of independence and if you worked weekends, for example, he would have to pick up his parenting.

If you tell him your marriage is in the line would he attend couples counselling? Do that you can discuss in a safe environment how marriage and parenthood makes you feel, what you both want out of it and how his behaviour leaves you feeling?

Can you get him to agree to a basic level of quality family time, and for him to give you some time off?

Is he at all receptive and empathetic to your needs?

And Pp: ease off on the cool wives jibes; the full picture hadn’t emerged, and anyway this is the emotionally Neanderthal arena of AIBU. What do you expect? Nuanced sensitivity to the OP?

InceyWinceyette · 28/04/2019 11:35

Oh, sorry, it is Relationships, but will attract the AIBU vibe from the thread title.

Namechanger385u4o · 28/04/2019 11:55

Yes sorry wasnt sure whether to put the aibu bit - i do want to hear different opinions as am open to the fact im U!

This morning he's been saying he didnt do anything wrong and will help with dc all day, he just doesn't listen.

Technically i could go back to work after dc2, it's my fault i expected him to settle down and be like my dad who only ever has a couple . On the whole DH is nice but it's just this that is causing an issue, generally he doesn't like being disagreed with and im pretty chilled so dont really sweat the other stuff it's just this

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BuckingFrolics · 28/04/2019 12:05

Generally he doesn't like being disagreed with?

Jesus woman, listen to yourself. This middle aged, selfish and arrogant guy is just going to love being a father to teenagers.

Namechanger385u4o · 28/04/2019 17:47

We ve had a chat now and i dont know if he will change but the chat went ok, he seems to see my point of view at least....

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 28/04/2019 19:59

Having come back to the thread and read your updates I totally revise my reaction. Please accept my apology for misreading things so badly.

I understood he was going out once a week but now I understand that he's frequently getting shit faced, staying out all night and is so hungover that he's in no shape to enjoy what should be family time.

I couldn't understand why you felt the need to keep calling him, but having read your subsequent posts it makes much more sense

Having stayed out all last night he them went off to play football today. That's just selfish. He's late 30s but he's acting as if he has no responsibilities.

Do you think he has a problem with drink? From what you say he's not drinking every day but do you think that when he starts drinking he hasn't got an off switch? Because he seems far too keen on drink for a man with a toddler and a second on the way.

I'm a sober alcoholic and I'm very aware how tough it is living with a drunk. Do you think that's the main problem or is he just selfish?

funthief · 28/04/2019 20:14

Exactly what Christmas fluff said. You are not being remotely unreasonable. He is not a young student with no responsibilities. Staying out all night means he is in no fit state to help with kids, housework, etc the following day. I can't stand this shit, this idea that women are just the unpaid help. It's not cool. He should grow up, accept that hard partying does not mix with (good) parenting. He chose to have kids, life changes as a result.
He should grow up and deal with it. As for the poster who noted he's been at work all week and you have not.....Jesus Christ almighty, what era are you from? The op is a sahm, she works in the home. You can't possibly have kids if you think that's not work. Or you are another tiresome Mumsnet super woman who is just cool with everything. Anyway...Op....yanbu. Not even a tiny bit. Hope your dope of a man grows up.

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