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flogging a dead horse here aren't I?

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DumbleDork · 25/04/2019 15:09

We’ve been together 15 years and have 2 children aged 10 and 4 (almost 11 and almost 5, so come September it will be all change when one starts senior school and one starts primary school).

We admittedly have differing parenting styles. I like a routine and that if I don’t want them doing or having something then that’s the way it should be. I always explain why and if it’s just me at home they accept it and move on. My husband is more laid back, probably because he works full time and doesn’t want to upset them by saying no and having the little time he has with them “tainted”.

This is where the problems lie though. They play us off each other and if I try to discipline them they say “my dads going to hear about this” then tell tales which creates arguments. And often if I say no to something they wait till I’m at work (part time) and then ask their dad who gives them stuff. Which again causes an argument.

We just find now we are arguing all the time about parenting, about money (He put the deposit down on our home and pays the mortgage and this gets chucked at me. He also says I don’t work enough to bring money in. But with a preschool and primary aged child if I worked full time the money I’d have to pay out in childcare would take any extra money and probably more than I earn) and he always throws in my face he pays for holidays, treats etc and that I never have money. And his mum had to bail me out of some debt when he wouldn’t because “you got yourself into this mess”

We even argue about sex. I said there is no affection whatsoever and he said “I can’t be bothered any more” and refuses a vasectomy even though he said he doesn’t want any more children and when I challenged him on why he won’t do it then he said “what if things change for us in the future” which I take to mean he doesn’t want more with me but would have more with someone else.

He’s said some pretty hurtful things over the years. One particularly which still hurts and can’t say exactly what as it may be outing if I have friends on here but it was on the lines of a parent abandoning me due to my personality, and when his dad called me fat the other day he agreed with him!

The thing is, when it’s going really well it’s great. But when it’s shit it’s shit. We seem to go in circles every 2 - 3 months and I feel so low and shit when it’s at its worst. He’s a fab dad and would do anything for the children but at most I feel he’s tolerating me, and perhaps he’s just lost all motivation but he’s waiting me to call time on the relationship so he’s not the bad guy. I certainly don’t feel loved and respected like I should. Yet the thought of being without him terrifies me. I’ve only ever had him as we got together when I was just 17 and him 18.

I’m flogging a dead horse here aren't I?!

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WhoKnewBeefStew · 25/04/2019 15:11

Yes you are Flowers

stucknoue · 25/04/2019 15:13

Short answer: yes.

I didn't leave, I should have. I'm a middle aged woman trying now to rebuild, would have been easier 10 years ago.

Only you know how you feel. I would suggest you make a medium to long term plan rather than make absolute decisions now, work out how you can be financially independent then you can be in control

Missingstreetlife · 25/04/2019 15:15

Couples counselling?

Ellisandra · 25/04/2019 15:16

Yes.

He’s not a fab dad. A fab dad works with their children’s mother on parenting, even if they don’t agree. You live in a house where a primary child thinks it’s OK to threaten you with “wait til my dad hears about this?”. That is REALLY bad. My XH and I parent differently, but if I told him I’d said no to something, he’d back me publicly - and talk to me privately.

I’d start planning, if I were you.

Shoxfordian · 25/04/2019 15:16

You're wasting your time op

DumbleDork · 25/04/2019 15:17

missingstreetlife he won’t. I suggested when we really struggled after we had a miscarriage a few years ago. He refused Hmm

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Ellisandra · 25/04/2019 15:17

Couples counselling with an arsehole?

If this were only parenting styles I’d agree. But this is a man who has multiple ways of putting the OP down. He’s not a nice man.

DumbleDork · 25/04/2019 15:20

I’m just so tired all the time and I’ve lost the fight. I just worry when people see us out and about we’re a skanky family who have no control over the children because he’s let them do what they want to all the time they don’t listen to me. My 10 year olds given me a wallop a few times when I’ve tried to discipline him too. I know that’s awful but he’s almost my height and stronger than me so I try not to wind him up

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 25/04/2019 15:28

Unfortunately, your son has already learnt from his Father's attitude that it's OK to treat you like this.

I think you should leave as soon as possible.

dottiedodah · 25/04/2019 15:29

I think you need some support ,maybe make appt with GP and see if you can get help from social services for example .If your child is hitting you he is clearly troubled by his Dads behaviour and is unable to handle it.What about your family ?,can you stay with them for a while?.The situation sound very unpleasant TBH.

Graphista · 25/04/2019 15:30

He's not a fab dad at all he's a weak Disney dad.

My ex is an arsehole but when dd was late primary/early high school age and went through a phase of trying to play us off against each other he totally backed me up. Didn't agree to anything without checking with me first. And I did the same.

Result was the phase didn't last long because we made sure it didn't work for her.

He's completely undermining you and while the kids love it now it's actually not doing them any favours at all because life isn't like that, we don't always get things the way we want them. It's far easier to learn that lesson at a younger age than as an adult.

He's an idiot! He's weak and undisciplined and a poor parent and partner.

Missingstreetlife · 25/04/2019 15:36

Sorry op. You probably need to go then, why wait?

Missingstreetlife · 25/04/2019 15:38

You deserve better, and will probably fly once you don't have this deadweight dragging you down

Doesitevenmatternow · 25/04/2019 16:19

If he's not willing to attend counselling then I'm afraid yes I think you are wasting your time. You deserve better op. So sorry.

DumbleDork · 25/04/2019 16:52

I just feel if nothing changes after each discussion then what’s the point? But the alternative of being alone is equally scary

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KOKOtiltomorrow · 25/04/2019 17:03

OP he is the complete opposite of a "fab dad". He is a misogynistic arse who is setting all kind of wrong examples to your DC. I suggest that rather than being laid back he is lazy and taking the easy option with regards to discipline and setting boundaries with DC. Think about how you want them to grow up and the type of adults you want them to be.......if you can't leave for you then could you leave for them? The 10 yr old hitting you is so sad and disturbing. I hope you can find the strength to free yourself and your DC from this.

WhoKnewBeefStew · 25/04/2019 18:33

You can have different parenting styles and it’s so much easier if you live apart. Myself and my ex had a dynamic very much like you and your dh. Now we’re divorced I find it so much easier. The dc are in a routine, with me, have clear and defined boundaries and when they say ‘I’ll just get it off Dad, I say ‘ok that’s fine’. But nothing that he gives them comes home. So if they get a PlayStation, or go to bed at 10pm at his, that all stops when they get home, and they know and now respect that, and they are so much better behaved ... with me Grin my ex on the other hand has a nightmare and it really is a case of ‘you reap what you sow’

DumbleDork · 26/04/2019 16:29

I asked him last time why he “can’t be bothered” with the sex and he said it’s because it takes so long for me to finish that he gets bored Shock basically meaning I’m there for his use and my pleasure doesn’t matter

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