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I don’t have the confidence to leave but I’m a mess

6 replies

WSIFD · 22/04/2019 23:09

Name change for this. I don’t even know where to start and don’t want to drip feed. I’ll go back to when it first went really wrong. 7 years ago he cheated. He left me and my daughter (he’s lived with us since she was 2.5yrs old) for 6 months to be with the other woman. We got back together. I’d like to think this was because he chose us, but I think it’s because he realised the other woman was bonkers! I was so desperate to have him back. The split was a total shock I hadn’t seen coming. I was in a complete state of shock and trauma for those 6 months having to dismantle the life we had built together. When he wanted to come back I was delighted. The trauma would end I thought and I could get my old life back. But you don’t. I had serious issues from my childhood. He’s 30 years older than me. Trypical daddy issues. My dad was verbally abusive. I grew up so scared. Self harming at age 5 (not that I knew it was) and suicidal by 10. I don’t have anyone I can rely on. I felt alone in the world till I found him and then he just threw me away.

So we got back together. I just tried to patch up our old lives. I’d had to rehome the horse he brought me (yes I know I’m immensely privileged to have her) and we got her back a few months after getting back together. Animals have been very important to me. The only love I felt in my childhood and I see them as my children. I so wanted her back with me and he pays the horse’s keep. She is a factor in us getting back together and staying together. I couldn’t bare to lose her and although I have my own income. My sole income is not enough for house, child and horse.

9 months after getting back together he lost his job. Being 60 he took early retirement but the drop in household income was put on my shoulders to make up and I did.

Then a year or so after than he got prostate cancer. He had his prostate removed. He was a horrible person whilst he was going through treatment, drank lots and took it out on me. He suffers ED from his treatment and we don’t have a sexual relationship. I am relieved as during our split he made me feel awful about my body and myself in bed. I have such low confidence now I have no desire for a sexual relationship with anyone. The cancer went but two years later it came back. Again he reacted badly and initially his prognosis wasn’t great. But he’s doing well now and his level are non existent. It’s gone but I think he feels ‘for now’. His second lot of treatment made things worse. He sometimes wets himself and the bed. This and his snoring had led to him sleeping on the sofa bed. I’ve finally got him to accept his accidents. For so long he denied them!! Total denial and it was so hard to live with. Me having to clean up and him blaming the dog or plain denying he was wet when he clearly was. He now wears pads to help but I feel so angry that for a long time me and dd had to suffer urine around our home. I do suffer from OCD so found this very traumatic. It seemed to spark my ocd and make it worse. This is where you must all think I’m a horrible person. I think it too. But I started to feel angry and a little repulsed my him. He eats meat, I don’t for ethical reasons and his meat eating really started to repulse me. His teeth are decayed and in a terrible state (he refuses to have them cleaned and see a dentist) and this started to make me feel ick. My ocd spiralled. He sometimes has poop on his pants. I don’t think he wipes properly and on several occasions when he’s walking around in underpants I can see it’s seeped through. My ocd is terrible when this happens. He tells me I over react but please tell me this isn’t ok? To have poop and pee spread around your home. I can’t bare it! I wouldn’t get so stressed if it was an accident and treated as so but it’s his complete denial and refusal to manage the problems that causes me anxiety. So much anxiety!

I was lucky enough to buy my council home 5 years ago. I’ve made good profit and would have a decent deposit for something bigger than our two bed one bathroom flat. But it’s mine and in my name and my security. The plan was once five years was up to sell (after 5 yrs keep full discount) and move to a house. He wants to. He wants his own room which I appreciate. He’s been on a sofa bed a year now. But he expects me to make this happen. No effort or extra finance from him. Now as I’ve said before he pays for my beloved horse. £600 a month she costs and he pays into a joint account and helps with the household bills. He’s not tight with money but just has his monthly pension. No help with deposit, he has no equity elsewhere or savings. I’ve always paid the mortgage from my account and wanted to keep it mine as I brought it after our split and wanted security. It’s his attitude of me not us having to provide a better home that makes me feel worthless. If I buy again alone I can afford a three bed but in another not so great area. Where I am is very close to dd school so I don’t want to move unless it’s an improvement for her too. I’d be moving just to buy him a bedroom. I’m starting to feel the weight of him as a burden. It’s the way he says things. Like I’m expected to provide and make everything happen. If we buy together we can borrow more but repayment time is short due to his age and monthly payments are huge. Deep down me and dd don’t want to move but it’s unfair dp sleeping on a sofa bed. I’m scared to move. Dd is happy with her room and being near school. We’ve looked at houses but the type dp wants isn’t realistically affordable. He also doesn’t want to cut back on his personal money that he mainly spends on drink. I’m made to feel guilty for not providing.

I’m a horrible person doing this to him. I don’t love him as a partner. More a friend or father figure. It’s so messed up. I’m so messed up. I’m scared to live without him and worried about impact on dd and finance. He doesn’t want to split up. I feel it’s inevitable and for the best for everyone and I’ve been so stupid and selfish. I also know I’m too weak to take the step myself.

I hate than my ocd has driven this big wedge. I feel so guilty that at times he repulses me. I don’t want him sleeping on the sofa and sharing a bathroom with me. I wish I could afford a 3 bed two bathroom house. I feel so bad I factor a horse into this. I sound like a privileged idiot! The past few months I’ve been in a dark place. Dd has been a teenage nightmare too and I feel everyone would be happier if I wasn’t here. I cry all the time. I blame myself for making everyone unhappy.

I could afford to split. I can manage my Mortgage, I have some savings. But what I wouldn’t do is keep the horse at the expense of dd not being able to do things with money on single income being tight. If I could find the horse the perfect home I’d be so sad but ok. But she’s had health issues. She may be a luxury pet but she’s also my responsibility and sadly an expensive one. I’m a complete mess and I feel I’m messing up everyone and everything around me. I may also be using the poor horse as an excuse not to take the leap. Like I said I’m a mess.

Sorry I’ve gone on for so long and please be gentle as you can’t hate me more than I hate myself.

OP posts:
Bittern11 · 22/04/2019 23:14

You don’t love him.

You and dd are more important than the horse. You’re going to have to let her go if you can’t afford her.

It will be much better than living with a man you don’t love, never mind like.

EstuaryBird · 22/04/2019 23:36

I don’t think it’s you that’s the mess here, tbh.

Apart from the fact that he pays for your horse (and I do understand your love for her) I cannot see anything that this man brings to your life except misery. I’ve read through your post twice and I cannot see one single positive that he brings to your life. He’s not even bothered that his lack of personal hygiene is turning your home into a toilet (your poor DD!).

I’m in my 60s and 2 of my friend’s husbands have had prostate cancer but have maintained good standards of hygiene so it’s no excuse.

Do not buy a house for this man. Get him out and then do whatever is right for you and your DD.

You have nothing to hate yourself for. He has obviously been very good at manipulating your mind. Step back and look at the reality....he’s a cunt. Rid yourself of this ‘man’ and do it quickly.

I wish you all the luck in the World x

WSIFD · 23/04/2019 14:09

Thank you estuaryBird. Kind helpful words xx

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SandyY2K · 23/04/2019 14:18

I honestly don't know how you live like this. He sounds awful and I couldn't be around him. Just reading it makes me shudder.

Does he have any family? Older children?

You and your DD are more important than the horse. Get a plan in place to split and live a better life.

PicsInRed · 23/04/2019 14:26

I'm not going to say your dont have OCD, because only you know that. But I can say with certainty that being repelled by a urine and faecally incontinent person walking around with messed pants isn't OCD, that is a perfectly rational response.

He's awful, what does he do for you?
What's the point of standing by him? You know he'll never do the same for you. He's worthless.

snowqu33n · 23/04/2019 16:44

I had to find a new home for my horse and he is still there, living happily at a great old age.
I don’t think you should put yourself and your daughter through living with an awful, selfish man in order to hold onto your horse, but regardless, another option would be to find a sharer to help with the horse’s costs. Lots of people do that and there is all kinds of information and advice online.
You need to find a way to build up your inner strength and getting financially independent will help.
After the disrespectful way he has treated you, you owe your partner nothing.
He is being massively manipulative and uses your horse’s upkeep to control you.
I think you may have been made to go against your instincts of self-preservation as a child and this has led you to ignore your gut feelings about this man, labeling your natural disgust as OCD.

Are you getting counseling for OCD?

It’s a concern that your daughter is seeing the dynamics of this codependent relationship.

If the other woman he lived with had mental health issues then it strikes me that your partner is targeting women who are vulnerable.

Don’t buy a house for him. Work towards getting yourself to the point where you tell him to move out and deal with his hygiene by himself. It sounds absolutely gross.

He is in poor health and may pass anyway in a relatively short time, so what will you do if that happens? Best not to waste your own life.

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