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How did you know he was gay

45 replies

Purplecurtains1 · 17/04/2019 12:59

For those whose husbands/ partners/ boyfriends are gay , when and how did you find out ?

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Purplecurtains1 · 18/04/2019 22:09

We don’t really have sex

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CoisNaFarraige · 18/04/2019 22:14

It can be a relationship even if he is gay. You are more than friends.

DharmaInitiativeLady · 18/04/2019 22:17

Not a clue. Zilch. Until he just came out with it like a bolt out of the blue. It was and still is a massive shock (2 years on). I'd known him for 16 years at that point....but still...no clue...

PinkiOcelot · 18/04/2019 22:19

OP, without the “gay” thing, the fact that he’s changing you is a big red flag in itself. Go get your nails done, get your false tan out and put your makeup on!!

Purplecurtains1 · 18/04/2019 22:24

But he doesn’t like it !

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Purplecurtains1 · 18/04/2019 22:25

He isnt changing me . I know he doesn’t like the false look so I’m obviously not going to wear that look

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PinkiOcelot · 18/04/2019 22:55

But he is. Because he doesn’t like it, you’re not doing it!!

Purplecurtains1 · 18/04/2019 23:10

But he has a beard that I don’t like, so he shaves it when we meet up .. is that not just making ourselves attractive to the one we love

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bollocksthemess · 18/04/2019 23:31

Look, it doesn’t matter if he’s gay or not, although he might be. You’re not having a fulfilling sexual relationship and it seems like you want one.

This isn’t going to get better. Ever.

If you think this is what you want for the rest of your life till you die, go for it. But it probably isn’t.

I have a partner who likes sex from behind, is keen on anal, likes a finger or two up the bum and has had a trans M to F girlfriend. Given those bits of information you might think he was gay.

We have really good, regular sex, and he is clearly delighted by me and my imperfect, slightly chubby body. Period sex, oral, sex when we’ve been camping and have skipped a few showers, are all fine by him.

It’s not about whether some traits mean he’s gay or not. It’s about whether this is what you think you deserve to put up with.

Purplecurtains1 · 18/04/2019 23:38

It’s so hard to get my head right on this . We had dinner earlier tonight z fun, gorgeous , interested and lots of chat BUT he has gone home to his family’s house . He could have stayed with me here . I asked him to . He is not working my tomorrow . I won’t leave till nine. I was longing for him To sleep overnights get with me but he wanted to go to his folks .
Saw him
Last weekend and will
Possibly see him again at some occasion over this weekend . Is this ok nearly a year in? We literally are a matter of minutes away from eachother tonight

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Purplecurtains1 · 18/04/2019 23:49

Seriously! Is this bullshit ? I’m really
Mad

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CoisNaFarraige · 19/04/2019 00:08

Sounds like he's deliberately avoiding putting himself in the situation where you'd lie next to each other. Seems a bit unusual for a straight man.

Jiggles101 · 19/04/2019 00:11

Why are bothering with this guy?! For whatever reason, he doesn't want you.

Don't you think you deserve to be wanted? Or would you prefer a relationship without sex?

OldAndWornOut · 19/04/2019 00:14

Why don't you just ask him?
It seems the most logical way to find out, and any relationship should be honest from the outset.

OldAndWornOut · 19/04/2019 00:17

Oh, I mean to say, ask him why he avoids situations which may lead to sex.
Not ask him if he is gay!

PlatypusLeague · 19/04/2019 00:29

Actually I think you might as well ask him if he is gay.

TheLazyDuchess · 19/04/2019 00:51

My ex is bi at least. He was caught red handed kissing a bloke, and rubbing his crotch, by my best mate (on a night out with a lot of mutual friends, that my spidey senses told me not to go to, so I pretended to be ill).

I'd been asking him for a long time if he had feelings for men, and he kept denying it. I'd pegged him a few times (per his drunken request) and he took a 6 inch dildo first try Shock we'd tried him pentatrating me before, but he could just about squeeze in a pinky finger. I become quite convicted he had to have had regular anal at some point, before this/had clearly been fucked by a man/men. I tried gently asking a few days later, but again, more denial.

The sex was excellent overall, neither of us had any problems coming, but he'd often go off it randomly for long spells. He was never happy in our relationship. He used to walk out a lot/disappear. Would often be in an awful mood for no apparent reason. Accused me when drunk of "trapping" him (with dc), and eventually admitted sober to feeing trapped. He got very depressed and suicidal, attempted it on at least two occassoions, and he became more and more destructive and physically abusive, and ramped up the emotional abuse (picking more and more fights as an excuse to storm out/disappear/"clear his head" etc). I think he was trying to provoke me into ending it and being the bad guy, in which he finally succeeded. He cheated on me with other women (which I couldn't prove at the time, and was nearly driven crazy by his gaslighting and accusing me of being paranoid, but he's since admitted to a lot of things).

When I finally threw him out, I also told everyone why, which he didn't expect. He attacked me two weeks later. It went to court, he got off. I think he's ashamed of himself, and his attraction to men, and felt like I'd outed him. Forgets that he's camp as Christmas, that I was amazed when he first tried it on with me to the point I said "I'm sorry I was convinced you were gay!". I was the first woman in years he'd publicly introduced as his gf, and even his own parents had been speculating for years...

We actually co parent quite well now, a few years on (and I'm glad to be rid of him, and to be able to ask him to leave if he starts to aggrivate me). He still totally denies he's bi/has gay proclivities. I couldn't speak to him for a year, after he seriously assaulted me, and when I realised I'd been nothing more than a beard and "convenient" to him. But I eventually forgave him (mostly for my own sake). He still has tons of issues, and is pretty much a functioning alcoholic, so I feel more pity for him now than anything.

Zoflorabore · 19/04/2019 00:52

Hi op I'm in a very similar situation but have known dp for 20 years ( since we were 20/21 ) and have been together for 11 years and have an 8yr old together.

He was very reluctant to have sex for a long while into the relationship but seemed happy doing other stuff. After we finally did it ( which was quite rubbish sadly ) he admitted that I was his first Blush he was 31 at the time and had several short relationships before me and had even been abroad with one for a whole week but never slept together during the relationship. Very odd to me.

Our sex life has always been pretty rubbish but it's at an all time low. We last had sex around September last year. He sleeps downstairs most nights.
I feel unwanted and my spidey senses are tingling away massively. I've said to him in the past that I think he's gay and he just laughs it off.

I've been asked out several times by different men who have seemed very interested but feel stuck with dp ( my house ) and he doesn't really have much family or the money to get his own place.

Following this thread with interest op, I'm sad that you're going through this too. My mum has more sex than me and is 62.

JimJamTimTam · 19/04/2019 01:03

I’ve been there! Five years we were together. I think I’d know now but it was one of my first LTRs. We both ended up cheating - him with men, me with men who made me feel desired coz he didn’t.

Orangeballon · 19/04/2019 01:37

I have a male friend who likes the company of women and pretends he fancies them but has no sexual desires and not a hugger or a kisser. I think he is a latent gay but he protested ? I have heard other men say he is gay. Maybe some people just don’t like sex?

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