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Finacé staying out all night-rant alert

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processingthepastfortheraoy · 15/04/2019 21:19

This is not a current issue but as my name suggests, I'm processing things to improve my sense of what is acceptable in relationships and work on my boundaries. Something has triggered this for some reason and I just need to get it out and get some perspective.

My fiancé and I had a baby 6 months before we got married. The baby was ebf and would feed every 2-4 hours during the day. If I was lucky she might go 3-4 hours at night.

I had PND but this went undiagnosed as I was just "unreasonable, controlling and manipulative" rather than really fucking struggling with the stress of a new baby, a wedding to organise, and a chronic health condition made worse by stress as they usually are.

DF like to go out with his mates drinking. We lived a few miles away and relied on public transport. The last bus was around midnight. I freely admit his mates were not people I liked. They were all smokers, weed smokers, heavy drinkers living the single life out of their mum and dad's. Some had jobs, some were lost to life outside their bedroom and the Xbox. I saw them as a bad influence I think. DF was a different person after he spent time with them and I think he envied their responsibility free lives.

DF always seemed to choose to go out when the baby was particularly unsettled or I was unwell. I relied on opiates for pain relief that contributed to the tiredness from all the breastfeeding 24/7. Every time he'd go out he'd stay out all night saying it was unreasonable to have to be home for midnight or thereabouts. That if he wanted to stay out til 3am with his mates then he was quite entitled too and would sleep at his parents' house (they lived 10 mins walk from his mates). He accused me of faking being unwell to prevent him going out. It's a chronic illness ffs.

The thing that really pissed me off the most was that the baby would just know he wasn't there and would wake EVERY BLOODY HOUR through the night after cluster feeding all evening and then would be up at 6 for the 2-4 hourly to start again. He'd swan in around lunch then go to work. Naps were only a thing if I walked her for miles and she'd wake up the moment I pushed the pram over the threshold. I was exhausted and had terrible anxiety about going back to work.

DF was supposed to help during the nights by doing nappies as I was feeding and this is what we agreed to as a couple when she was born. This soon became resented abs he would shout and swear at me in the night about how lazy I was and how I hadn't winded her properly and that's why she was crying again. He was fucking knackered he said and it was my job to sort her out. He worked shifts and got to sleep in when he was working later. I was always up at 6 with the baby.

I did express to try and get a break but she'd just cluster feed later so seemed pointless.

Obviously he was quite nasty at times but was I unreasonable to expect him not to stay out all night? Was it controlling? Or do things change when you have a family and their needs come first? He continued to do this after we got married and had another child. I was always "controlling and unreasonable and a psychotic bitch." If we've er had an argument he'd go home to his parents' overnight and come crawling back around midday.

Is this normal engaged/married life with kids?

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funnylittlefloozie · 15/04/2019 21:21

No, of course its not normal. What are you actually getting out of this relationship?

MyKingdomForBrie · 15/04/2019 21:25

I can't think of a single reason why you would have married this abusive, pathetic prick.

Bemusedagain · 15/04/2019 22:02

Not at all normal

processingthepastfortheraoy · 15/04/2019 22:02

Good god, I didn't realise that was so long until I've looked back Blush

I wish I'd had the strength I have now back then because I'd have run. But I still doubt myself on the controlling thing. The line between boundaries of acceptable behaviour to one another in a relationship and controlling seems a very fine one to me.

I married him because I thought was brought up to believe relationships took work, because he "put up with me" and because I'd got a baby and was the "right thing to do." I thought we could make it work, that live and happiness was a fallacy of books and movies and that life wasn't supposed to be easy.

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Shoxfordian · 15/04/2019 22:05

Working at a relationship doesn't mean putting up with whatever shit he throws at you
He sounds awful. Is he your ex? He should be

Moominfan · 15/04/2019 22:06

I really wish I could remember who said this on mumsnet.
Would rather be alone doing it all. Than doing it all with someone asleep letting you do it all. Something along those lines anyways. What do you get out of this relationship? Sounds like he fits right in with his mates. Relationships shouldn't be endurance

BeUpStanding · 15/04/2019 22:11

Bloody hell his behaviour is absolutely atrocious. Unforgivable. He was being a total bastard. I really hope he's your ex, or that he's working his arse off in therapy to become a better person.

processingthepastfortheraoy · 15/04/2019 22:14

He swanned off with another woman the night after my dad died and I divorced him. Took 6 bloody years to finally be free of him as he frustrated the divorce process despite him living with ow and their 2 kids.
I look back now and want to smack myself. I wonder if he's the same with ow as he was with me.

I might be free if him but I still back and forth on the controlling thing. He's tell everyone he wasn't allowed to see his friends, wasn't allowed to do this that or the other. Made me wonder if I was exaggerating my pain because I felt unable to cope with breastfeeding every hour of the night because our daughter missed her dad and it was the only way of comforting her. I started to believe it was me and still struggle to believe otherwise on down days.

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Bemusedagain · 15/04/2019 22:30

It wasn’t you, it was him. Maybe you should go see a therapist and get some help on moving past this. Why are people still engaging with him about this 6 years later? Anyone who is telling you things that he’s saying about you is not your friend and you should tell them to stop.

processingthepastfortheraoy · 15/04/2019 22:42

I think I'm ok about it all. Mainly. I've repressed most of it I think. It just sometimes pops up in my head if something reminds me. It was something my brother said yesterday. I don't normally give things much thought but once in a while I do and work through it and learn from things so I appreciate some perspective from others so thank you all.

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Middersweekly · 16/04/2019 09:35

You were in no way controlling @OP, you just wanted some support (and quite rightly so) with your newborn baby. He however was acting like a selfish child who only thought about his own needs. I would have kicked him out long ago if I’m honest. Perhaps he did change/mature a bit and step up to the plate which is why you stayed?

Middersweekly · 16/04/2019 09:40

Scrap the bottom line, I’ve just read that you divorced the c**t. Seek some counseling to get past these feelings you have about the previous relationship. Move on with your life and be happy. You deserve it!

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