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Fiance not excited about engagement

52 replies

ohmysense · 09/04/2019 18:45

First time poster, apologies for a long rant...

I got engaged recently, which is something I’ve been looking forward to for a long time. The problem is that my fiancé does not seem to be excited about it.

We are in our early 30s and have been together for 3 years. I was open with him early on that I would like to get married and start thinking about children relatively soon. He seemed to be on board with it, and he still says he's sure he wants children etc. About six months ago I initiated the conversation that since we’ve been living together for some time I felt there wasn’t much more for us to find out about each other. So we should decide whether we are making this commitment or parting our ways. I got a bit emotional at the time but he said it was good that I was sharing my feelings with him. Over Christmas even his parents commented that we are moving really slowly in our relationship (in our culture people get married younger than average for the UK, the vast majority of our friends are already married with kids). Anyway, after several conversations like that, he got a ring and proposed.

But now every time I would mention anything related to wedding planning or if we see a wedding-related show on TV, he gets a bit sad and is not keen on these conversations. I did bring it up, and he’s quite open that he is very nervous about getting married and how this is probably the first decision in his life that will be irreversible, especially the having children part. Which I get. But I still cannot shake the feeling that I am forcing him to go through this, and deep inside he doesn’t want to, he’s just trying to convince himself that it will all be ok. When I tried to challenge him, he said that if he didn’t want to he wouldn’t have proposed. And that he doesn’t think that waiting longer before the engagement would have made him feel any more sure about it. Still I feel like he’s looking at our life and thinking “Shoot, is this how my life is going to be forever from now on?” and that doesn’t make him happy. Despite the fact that I thought we had a happy relationship and I have been certainly trying my best to be a good partner.

It also doesn’t help that when he is excited about something, like a holiday etc., he usually is very excited. He’s not one of those people who is always ambivalent about things.

We did tell our parents about the engagement but almost none of our friends. The ring is being resized, so I haven’t got to wear it properly yet. I just always thought I’d be so happy after it finally happens, and now I’m back to being upset and uncertain about the future, and it really sucks. I am even considering giving him the ring back because I feel like him forcing himself to go ahead with this may be a huge mistake for both of us.

OP posts:
BlueMid1ght10 · 10/04/2019 01:13

If you feel that he doesn't want marriage, children, a future. Then you need to be strong, brave and end it and find someone else.
His inaction says more than words

Erksum · 10/04/2019 01:26

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RiversDisguise · 10/04/2019 05:37

Do you love him? Tbh it sounds a bit like you want a wedding more than him.

sparklytwinklyfairylights · 10/04/2019 06:29

I think it would probably be best if you gave him the ring back.

You can't marry someone who doesn't really want to marry you, you'll end up hurt

Bagpuss5 · 10/04/2019 06:42

WEll ha has 30+ child producing years ahead of him and you haven't.
I would def think of finishing with him and finding someone else.

reallyanotherone · 10/04/2019 07:07

DP is making you jilt yourself at the altar

Is it even possible to jilt yourself?

Cyberworrier · 10/04/2019 07:17

Were you happy together before getting engaged? Not as in ok, but happy?
Some people want to marry but hate the idea of big weddings (not sure if that’s the usual in your culture?). Is it possible that’s partly what’s putting him off? Would you be happy with a small wedding?
I also had a red flag when you said you are trying to be a good partner- just as you shouldn’t have really consciously try IME if the relationship is right. Not sure we know enough about how you were before this. Not telling your friends seems strange/sad though OP.

Aussiebean · 10/04/2019 07:17

A relationship that’s not bad enough to break up does not equal a marriage.

He is probably happy where you are now, it’s nice enough that he doesn’t want to breakup but no desire for it to go further.

stitchwitch84 · 10/04/2019 07:51

A friend of mine was in a similar situation, OP. She was on the brink of leaving when her partner proposed with, "Well, shall we do it then?"

He then showed almost no interest in wedding preparations, to the point of really upsetting her several times.

They got married and I really wish they hadn't. She's an utterly fabulous person, and he's…not. My feeling is he realised she was beginning to slip away from him, and decided to tie her to him with the thing he knew she really wanted, marriage with a big wedding and a sparkly diamond ring. His lack of interest in the wedding and in being a decent partner has raised so many red flags for me and I really hope and pray that their marriage will succeed, because she deserves happiness. But I'm not hopeful.

Talk to your partner, be really honest with him and yourself. If it's a partnership worth sealing with marriage, open and honest conversations won't hurt it. But don't tie yourself to a man who has proposed simply because it's his duty. It's an insult to your worth as a human being!

Newmumma83 · 10/04/2019 08:11

Men are odd balls 🎾 They can be in love with someone but committing scares some of them half to death

I was in a loving relationship for 10 years ... we were engaged for 4 of them , when we finally paid debts off due to age I suggested moving to our respective parent for a short time to save for house and wedding.

It was agreed then a few weeks later after odd behaviour it was announced he loved me but didn’t know if he was in love with me and marriage was a big commitment.

Odd considering we had Been engaged 4 years ( which I took as commitment forever )

It was a tough time and I was hurt ☹️ while he figured himself out w continued with the plan, my parents found out everyone fell out.. it was horrible, I didn’t know if he was going to disappear or keep in touch

We had a holiday booked ( before we decided to save) nearly didn’t go on it .. glad I did as we reconnected ... a few months apart and a holiday perhaps made him figure out his feelings.

It took a few months 18 to be exact but we saved and lived apart ( due to room at parents ) and got the house and married ... and I have our 20 week old son sleeping in my arms right now ... it worked out and I nearly ran it’s lucky he didn’t take much longer ... so glad he does love me because I love him but I deserved him to be in love with me so if that didn’t change I was ready to run.

Have a frank conversation... ( when at your calmest ) about what vibes he is giving ...( it’s how I pulled it out of my oh ) if he is in that not committed place tell him to go figure it out... but that you won’t be hanging around forever ... that you love him but you love yourself enough to know you deserve love in return.
That you don’t like how this not knowing is turning you into as a person and that the goals were always clear it’s a case of him being on the same page

Perhaps if you parents pick up your sad don’t tell them they will try to protect you and it makes it messy (er)

Be prepared it may go that he doesn’t sort his life out .... have your friends in your corner keeping an eye on you.

Love will find you but you have to let it if he can’t love you like you deserve let him go and find someone who will

P.s I am 35 years old I fell pregnant on my first attempt ( one time ) I have friend that had her 2nd at 40 years old ... there is hope x x

Fairenuff · 10/04/2019 08:54

A ring does not prove commitment.

Actions do.

If he wanted to marry you he would.

He doesn't want to.

He sounds like he is weak enough to go ahead with it though so it's up to you whether you settle for a weak man who is disinterested in you and will likely be passive througout your relationship.

Butteredghost · 10/04/2019 09:56

I don't know, I think I disagree with everyone. You didn't pressure him, you just had a normal conversation after a normal length of time. And at some point you have to take yes for an answer.

Yes it would be great if he was dancing through the streets with happiness and writing romantic songs to sing at the wedding and begging her to move the date forward as he just can't wait! But that's not real life for 99% of us. YANBU to be a little deflated though.

ukgift2016 · 10/04/2019 10:10

Are you actively planning the wedding? If not then yes it's a 'shut up now, ring'

You don't need to get married to have a baby...

NiteFlights · 10/04/2019 18:47

Have a good think about what you actually want. You are keen to have children and there is a window of opportunity for that. It does sound rather as though you want to get married so you can have a family rather than being keen to marry him in particular.

You have been very sensible by talking honestly with him and I agree that if you were simply desperate for a wedding you would be ignoring your concerns.

Although I was keen to get married (and am happily married!) I was not keen on the idea of the wedding DH wanted. It caused me a lot of anxiety and the planning/preparation was not very enjoyable for me. I also felt/feel very guilty about that and unable to talk about it. If it had been more the cultural norm for me to let him do it all I might have done so. Do you think this could be the case for him and that once things settle down he’ll go ‘back to normal’? I also found it hard being married at first, because I kept thinking ‘this is it, I’m trapped, this is for life’ - despite loving my DH very much and wanting to be married to him! Admittedly I am a weirdo, but I think it was also a symptom of taking it all very seriously.

I don’t think it’s a bad idea to suggest calling it off and see how he reacts, but you need to know how you will handle it if he does say he wants to split.

Good luck OP, I wish you well.

Whitney168 · 10/04/2019 18:55

You don't need to get married to have a baby...

No, but this is certainly showing the OP whether this is the man she should be making the even bigger commitment to tie herself to with a baby, isn't it?

If he's not committed enough to marry you, why on earth wouldn't you find someone who is to reproduce with?

MrsMaisel · 10/04/2019 19:08

He's a coward. Because he doesn't want to marry you but he's too immature to end it like a man. Take the initiative and hand back the ring. Tell him you don't want to waste time with him and find out a year after the wedding or (God forbid) after you've had kids, that he's not thrilled to be your loving adoring husband.

Please - take it from someone whose husband was sweating at the alter... it's not worth riding through it.

dronesdroppingzopiclone · 10/04/2019 19:18

This wouldn't be good enough for me. I'd rather be single than beg a man to marry me. I'd find another place to live, even with family, tell him it's over and he can go and pick up his ring, plain and simple. 'You don't want to get married. That's fine. I deserve someone who does and is enthusiastic about it, so I need to move on.' No going back and forth. He's stringing you along and next it will be 'not ready' for kids until it's too late for you. Nope.

AlwaysCheddar · 10/04/2019 19:22

Sounds like he’s not that into you ....

NotStayingIn · 10/04/2019 21:57

I don’t think you’ve done anything wrong OP and I definitely don’t think you’ve pressured him into anything. It’s good you are questioning this now, before it’s gone further. I am leaning towards thinking this relationship isn’t quite ready for marriage. I would pause things I think until I was more sure you really are on the same page.

crimsonlake · 10/04/2019 22:07

I agree, most people get engaged to be married, others get engaged just to shut you up.

CharlyAngelic · 10/04/2019 22:13

Looks like engagement is to shut you up .
Move on .
Sounds like his family would like him to be married too .
Could there be another reason he does not appear happy about the engagement or the thought of marriage?

JohnMcCainsDeathStare · 11/04/2019 08:13

It won't be the first time that an engagement has been mentioned and then the relationship ends - happened to me and several of my friends. For me I always found my ex hard to read since he took the Serious Person thing very seriously indeed (since then I found he had no sense of humour) He proposed and I accepted but he never seemed particularly happy and his depression seemed to flare up within weeks of moving in together. It was when I deliberately didn't plan anything for Xmas and noted that he didn't was a big clue that the relationship was over.

Thing is if you marry it will only be a marriage of convenience. He won't be happy about it and neither will you.

TheOP232323 · 11/04/2019 08:19

OP some people just aren’t fussed about marriage. I’ve been with my DP for 6 years and neither of us want to get married. You can’t make someone marry you it will all end in tears.
He probably does love you but marriage isn’t something everyone wants to maybe find someone who wants the same things as you?

NameChangeNugget · 11/04/2019 08:22

Think you've pressured him. He isn't into at all is he so do the right thing and leave

This entirely. You want different things. He’s just metaphorically patting you on the head to shut you up.

You can & will do better than him

Chamomileteaplease · 11/04/2019 12:11

I think the wedding and the marriage are two different things.

I don't blame him for not being excited about the wedding and all the relationship-breaking preparation that goes into it.

But, he also doesn't sound sure about being married to you. So yes, I would also suggest a huge talk and preparing yourself for walking away.

You still have time to have your babies with someone else Smile.

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