Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Sociapath and breaking people

52 replies

Looxxlooxx · 06/04/2019 22:44

I don’t even know where to start . But I’m dealing with a narcissist/sociapath/psychopath I don’t even know what but he’s wrecked havoc on my life and I feel a shell of myself . It’s been two years of cheating lying manipulation , gas lighting . He’s lost 2 jobs . One I supported him with and gave him money . Which he used to cheat on my on a stag do with a girl he cheated on me wirh six months previous at Christmas . He was on the stag do and she was in Benidorm with her friends and I later found 12 months later he had been wirh her . He has been linked to multiple girls in my town . He had a work wife behind my back . He slept with the girl from Benidorm best friend when we were on a break when he promised me he was not interested in others while my heart was broken. He goes silent for weeks and when I give up crying and accept he would come back round mine. In the most traumatic situations he would be unphased by my pleas. He completely ignores my calls and when he does get in touch he blames me that ‘I’m making stuff in my head ‘ ‘it’s me who needs to change’ the discard previously he did this when his sister told me it was disgusting and he had actually been trying to get wirh another girl while I was ringing him that weekend . When I confronted him broken inside he blocked me on all social media and phone and never spoke to me again for weeks . I was left shattered but I managed to stay away from him for 7 weeks . I was stronger then. I didn’t look for him or snoop after my discard . I stopped anyone from talking about him and even though I was hurting I managed to main a social life and meet others knowing he had been lying and had abused me and gone off and never had the decency to tell me what he did. He then contacted me 7 weeks later by email (which wasn’t a regretting one) he just talked about himself and the ending was ‘and I should just tell you I want to be with you’ . I thought the email was rather selfish and maintained no contact for a week or so. I saw he had unblocked me on social media forums . I let the email get to me and I sent one back angrily saying he was selfish and he choose to lie cheat and go off with another girl . He just said ‘I just needed to tell you how I felt and I’m glad I did ‘ . It became a email argument war for about two weeks. He still had the other girl who he claimed he didn’t like , on social media . He said he never regretted going off as it ‘made him see the bigger picture ‘ and ‘infact he was glad of it ‘ . I can’t process his through process . He blamed me for him going off and said I ‘messed with his head and if I hadn’t he wouldn’t have gone off with all these girls ‘. He some how manages to turn everything around on me. He admitted it ‘was wrong how he just blocked me and what he did wirh the girl ‘ but the relationship was on its knees and ‘we both didn’t want to be together apparently ! He some how managed to get back in my life and say he wanted to spend it with me and go on adventures and it was a clean slate. He said he wanted everything in the open and all truths . So I agreed to tell him who I had met , text dated , which was none of his business because he had left me cheated on me abandoned me but he said he wanted ‘every detail ‘ and ‘not to leave one single detail out’ . When I asked him about things I also felt I needed to know he lied. He said he was not interested in any girl and had only dated text , slept with one. He said I had done far worse . I had his laptop the other day doing assignment work helping a friend and I logged on his Facebook. I could see more girls he tried to get into. It seemed it was 2-4 girls at one time on a two events . That’s two events I know of. I could see him laughing with his cousin in messages of how he had ‘rang this girl a million times on Facebook ‘ (the one his sister told me about which resulted in the blocking of me ‘ . And I quote from him ‘won’t be the first won’t be the last ‘ . I felt sick I was crying and asking him what was wrong in his head . He got up angrily and said ‘right I’m leaving I’m sick of this ‘ ‘your so selfish ‘ I begged him to prove there wasn’t any more girls . I said ‘you’ve lied to me ‘ he said ‘there’s nothing in it ‘he never acted on it , different mind sets . I said ‘it’s 2-3 girls at every event . How could you do this and laugh ? . He point blank refused to resolve and walked home abandonnng me thinking he had been with another girl. The next day I was built with anger . After two years of destroying me emotionally, any occasion we had, my finances , my love for him and me divulging our ‘clean slate’ I said some mean things to him. I told him I wanted him to die . I hated him he constantly needed narcissistic supply . I was awful in my words and in the last final weeks of this to be honest hit him three weeks previous in another emotional abuse event. I absolutely do not condone violence and I hate myself for it I cried after it thinking what’s wrong wirh me . I now said I hate him and wanted him to die . But after 1-2 days of him unresolving and Ignoring me he blocked me on everything . If anyone has ever been through emotional trauma they will know how I feel and how crazy someone makes you feel . He argued and blamed me in them 1-2 days saying ‘it was banter with his friends ‘ and he never went with anyone and ‘I lied to use his laptop (which I never ) he then has focused all of everything on the fact I told him to just die . I’m sick disgusting and everything . It got to the weekend and low he was ringing someone on his phone stored under a different number 14 times . I know he’s had numbers stored in his phone because he rings Girls desperately after being put drunk. He did it to me. And 3-4 other girls that I am aware and caught . So I know he’s been ringing another girl he’s had stored under his sisters name . He got caught out and refused to tell me and said he didn’t . This was a week after the split . He just sat in my car with no expresssikn just like all the other times and saying ‘you told me to go die’ . I was crying my eyes out trying to resolve and he just calmly wrapped up a charger wire he found in the car of his and got out the car and walked off . I went home . I knew he had been seeing someone and I felt crazy. He’d come back with all these empty promises and then abandoned me again. On the day of me finding the stuff on his laptop he had resigned from his job as he was about to get sacked for gross misconduct . There was several cases made against him one saying he was not seen on cctv at all for 5 hours on a night shift suggesting he was asleep . He put people in danger wirh elective and didn’t use safety procedures and didn’t complete tasks. This is the third job I know he’s been sacked or walked from due to himself. So when he was at my house and I had been on his laptop and found all these lies he said I was selfish after what had happened that day. I’m trying to process all these emotions . I had supported him in the past. It wasn’t to do with any of that . He wasn’t using me . Lying to me . I still wanted the relationship and I did spend the 8-9 days trying to contact him on phone and going round his house but when he walked out my car I tried the next day and in such an emotional mess on the phone he just had no empathy or remorse and was blaming me like all the other times . I said ‘how could you do this ? And he just said ‘bye’ , and hung up. I didn’t contact again. I changed my number and have blocked him on anything I have on social media . It’s been three weeks. We were meant to be going to Peru , it’s his birthday next week . He’s been out every week chasing girls and I know he has. And I feel like Iv been dragged through this torment all again . I know what I have done . So please be gentle wirh me . It’s hard enough as it is. I don’t leave the house . Iv been in the house and trying to maintain working life and functioning. My emotions are a mess. My memory is a mess. I cry at anything. My abuser is out getting new supply and my dreams of Peru have been destroyed . He already had a flight booked for September and we were meant to be going in May so o feel discarded and he’s continuing . I’m too scared to do anything of the stuff I wanted to do with him but I don’t want to let him wreck my life but it’s taking them steps. Does it get better. ?? He’s also kept that he is ‘in a relationship ‘ on Facebook through these past three weeks ‘when I was looking . But we have not spoke in three weeks. Will I be able to achieve doing things without him . I feel ugly . I don’t want to leave the house . People say it gets better in time . I’m 33 and I didn’t want to be doing this . He is 28 and he’s been chasin. After 19 year olds. Does he hate me or using stuff against me ? I cry about what Iv said to him in anger but he’s never given one second tonthink about me. Why did I love this person . I don’t believe in love anymore and I’m certain he’s tossed me aside like I’m worthless for the last time.
I v tried to read so much on sociapaths . He lies , cheats manipulates , no empathy remorse .

I even found a message to one friend sent years ago saying ‘these girls literally don’t even know who I am, I’m such a good actor’

When Iv confronted him about anything he says ‘I was young , or I was stupid’ or drugs made me do it or Iv learnt from my mistakes .

I’m scared I’m the cause of this . And he’s going to sail off into the sunset with some younger model and I’m left (again) racking my brain trying to get by each day, crying and il never feel the same again.
The fact we had Peru and he’l just still go .
I know Iv gone on but will everything be ok in time ?

Will he be like this for the rest of his life. It says sociapaths get worse . I know i need to work on myself . I keep looking at social media at all these pretty girls around my town and he’s out just cracking into anything and I’m at home a mess and cannot function and feel old . He’s broken me this time .

OP posts:
Sohardtochooseausername · 06/04/2019 23:00

Do you have to be with him? I can’t think of any reason why you should be. Honestly, having dumped and then waited 9 months for a lying cheating selfish did I say cheating b to leave the house, it is worth the head space.

Potatonose · 06/04/2019 23:04

He sounds awful, he's not worth all this thought. I think you need to leave him for good and get some counselling, do you have family support?

Wolfiefan · 06/04/2019 23:09

You do need to change.
Walk the fuck away and get some self respect.

Ididalwayswonder · 06/04/2019 23:20

OP, oh my. I don't think there is any real choice except to get rid. He's playing games and causing you to go batshit crazy. He's halfway there..

The only way you can move on, is to have no further contact.

He doesn't love you. Gee, he doesn't even pretend to like you.

This was me, a good few years ago. I can relate Sad

OldAndWornOut · 06/04/2019 23:31

Your whole thread is about him.
What he said, what he did..
Is he worth any of the headspace he is taking up?

Actions speak louder than words. Look at what he has done to you, and see this as your chance to put the whole toxic mess behind you.
To do that, you have to totally cut him off; no checking up (you don't need to, you know what he'll be doing based on his previous form) no responding to him, and just grit your teeth until it slowly feels better.

Looxxlooxx · 06/04/2019 23:36

Someone has just messaged me to tell me that he’s ‘out’ meaning he’s out on the town . While I’m at home for the third week researching what mental abuse Iv gone through and asking people on mumsnet whether there’s hope for me😔 . He’s got no job he’s been out spending his money every weekend and going with other woman and discarded me . And I’m at home smoking and now I have anxiety and cannot sleep . Iv prayed to god. Iv broken down, Iv asked for answers . Do people like that get their comeuppance . How can he be such a robot . I cannot get my head around it . Three weeks of nothing . He made a massive song and dance about learning and not wanting to go another minute without me and now he’s out every weekend and Iv heard nothing . I meant nothing to him . I can’t sleep. I just don’t want to feel anything anymore. Iv had 12 months of this . My head can’t take this anymore . He’s destroyed me

OP posts:
Whatisgoingonwithmylife · 06/04/2019 23:39

This has happened to me. I’ve walked away and gone no contact. It’s the only option. Good luck OP Flowers

Looxxlooxx · 06/04/2019 23:40

I did this before and I was slowly feeling better . But now I feel worthless , at home .i look like death and my mind has gone . I feel dead and everything at once . It’s awful. It’s the never ending closure. He knew how upset i was from the lying and I reacted in a angry way but he’s done what he always has done . He’s kept the ‘in a relationship’ up on Facebook. My friends think it’s some scheme to torment me or possibly already had another girlfriend . But he’s been gone 3 weeks . This isn’t love . You don’t treat people like this you love. I feel like it’s just me and he hates me .

OP posts:
Whatisgoingonwithmylife · 06/04/2019 23:42

Op, you don’t love him. It’s a trauma bond. Walk away. Find some who can feel empathy, compassion and love for you - you deserve that Flowers

CarolDanvers · 06/04/2019 23:42

He has not destroyed you. You have destroyed you. He’s treated you like absolute dog shit and you still keep going back! I couldn’t read your immense OP, gave up half way through. Look I stayed with a disgusting man far longer than I should have but I had kids and financial commitments with him and it was very difficult to leave. I get it I do but how long will YOU Let this go on for? You’ll cringe looking back at this debacle one day.

Sohardtochooseausername · 06/04/2019 23:43

He hasn’t destroyed you. Don’t let him. Then you’d be dead and there’s no coming back front that. Maybe he broke you. But you can build yourself back together. Think about what you want and make that your focus. You might not be able to get that today or next year, but it’s what you can find direction from, a sense of purpose.

Bittern11 · 06/04/2019 23:43

You’re 33? I thought you were about 19 from your post.

Stop giving him head space. Who cares what he thinks? He doesn’t love you, or even like you.

Get away from him, block him, and concentrate on you. What do you want? Do that.

OldAndWornOut · 06/04/2019 23:44

Just so.
"You don't treat people like this you love".
So, keep in mind all the ways he has treated you badly. (A long, long list, probably) and make yourself move on.

CarolDanvers · 06/04/2019 23:44

And bloody well go to Peru by yourself and if that’s too painful then somewhere else. Go and live your life and stop letting this pig dictate everything for you.

Looxxlooxx · 06/04/2019 23:48

Yeah I probably will . I already get upset when I think of all the time I have wasted consuming myself of him when I could be happy and spending the precious time I have around my parents and family and friends but Iv consumed myself . Yes I’m to blame. But I did love him. I don’t love myself . Do they treat all woman like this . I feel like he’s treat me awful but I know he wasn’t good to his other gf (only when I saw on his phone what he had done to them) and yes I still stayed because he said he was ‘young and stupid ‘and he knows he had been awful. Well he’s being awful now so he doesn’t learn . He has no job and he’s out every week . We were saving for Peru , irs his birthday next week. Things like that are sentimental and important and he knows it . What is he even doing what is wrong with him to treat me this bad. I have gone no contact now 11 days . I am trying . He doesn’t care regardless and that hurts also . It’s not how love should be . I tried to resolve it . He’s not a good person I know he isn’t . But he charms people to think he is

OP posts:
MitziK · 06/04/2019 23:51

I skimmed what you've written.

Block him and move on. He's scum.

Whatisgoingonwithmylife · 06/04/2019 23:51

OP, educate yourself on cluster Bs, patterns of abuse and toxic relationships. Block his number! Spend time with people that you love and treat you properly. And forget him! He’s broken, you can’t understand him because he doesn’t even understand himself. Move on and live your life.

Looxxlooxx · 06/04/2019 23:52

I will start a new day tomorrow and try my best to make better decisions . Thank you for the advice . I know Iv been a total doormat and I know he doesn’t love me . It’s very hard to get your head around things when your constantly in fight or flight mode . I wish I never answered his email back in September . I still loved him and I was hurt . But it’s happened now and I can only just take one day at a time like my mum said

OP posts:
Whatisgoingonwithmylife · 06/04/2019 23:54

You’ll be ok OP. It’ll feel easier every single day and six months from now, you’ll be kicking yourself that you didn’t walk away sooner.

Deadsouls · 07/04/2019 00:07

I'm afraid the only way with these types is complete no contact.

It's okay that you did it before and went back. It might take a few go's.

Block him on everything so he can't contact you in any way, because he will come back to try and hook you back in. So be prepared. Ask people not go give you updates.

It's the only way to get out of the cycle and to stop the madness. It's driving you crazy.

It will be painful, and might take a while to recover from the trauma and shock. Because it is shocking how brutal and cruel these types are capable of being.

Remember it isn't about you! It isn't personal. But you need to put the boundary in, because he'll keep coming back and taking from you, for as long as you let him.

I'm afraid there's no easy way around it. It's no contact. You're hooked into an addictive relationship that is consuming you.

The good news is, it does hurt like he'll, but no contact won't kill you.
It will give you the chance to recover.

Slowly, slowly he will leave your system. How long that takes is personal.

But it IS possible to recover from relationship with these people and move on to be happy. But only if you go no contact and stick to it.

One day, he will just be a bad memory and you'll have learnt never to be involved with someone like that again.

eve34 · 07/04/2019 07:48

Hope You are feeling stronger this morning.

You know you deserve better. Being on your own is better than being treated like this. I have been there. 14 years together house and 2 kids.

It is so very hard to change your habits. But you have to go cold turkey. Block everywhere. There is no reason for you to be in touch.

Start writing a diary. Pour your emotions out there. Talk to friend. Get counselling. Start doing things for you. Volunteers. Start couch to 5k. Join the gym. Make yourself physically and emotionally a stronger person. Only you can change this.

Middersweekly · 07/04/2019 08:38

Blimey @OP! He is a scumbag! Why on earth do you keep running back to him? He won’t change! You need to get some self respect and move on from this cycle of abuse (yes that’s what it is). He’s got no respect for you, you’re just a convenient port in a storm. You deserve better! Never mind the holiday, you shouldn’t be going anywhere with this guy!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 07/04/2019 08:52

OK. So you have bathed in him, wallowed in his hurtfulness, fully expored the reality of being spurned, unloved, pissed on from a great height.

Now... are you ready to set all of that aside, accept that you were vulnerable to him and acted like a moonstruck calf?

Basically he is a twat and you are a pushover!

You can stop, you can simply choose to ignore his existence and get on with your best revenge - a life lived well!

Off your bum, get up, get out and do something productive. You don't need to re-hash it all for us!

Go - scoot! Smile

Whatisgoingonwithmylife · 07/04/2019 08:56

I came on here to support the OP having recently gone through his myself and these responses are massively helping me too! I too was a ‘moonstruck calf’ Grin

WitsEnding · 07/04/2019 09:31

However difficult it is you need to move on for your own sake. Don't stalk him on social media, don't let your friends tell you what he's doing - they are making it worse for you, he's in your past now not your future.

I'm not surprised he's out looking for another woman, rather than looking for another job. He needs a source of income and support to leech on.

Swipe left for the next trending thread