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anamechangeaday · 06/04/2019 00:07

Not really.

But my partner stalks me on here so I'm trying to circumvent them finding me

I am 52 .
We have been together 7 years.

Not married. I thought that was ok .

They have always treated me with disdain/contempt.
Many examples of unreasonable behaviour which I try to forget and get past.
These include extreme cruelty /spite at times but with no comprehension that their actions are cruel or abusive and the tables are always turned to make it my fault .
No details as identifying except to say extreme cruelty. As I had a late miscarriage they accused me of blackmail because they wanted to go to work and I wanted them with me. No comprehension of my pain or what I went through. My fault because I pressured them to support me and it didn't fit their timetable. They wanted to be there for some stuff but not others. They labelled My demands on this as emotional blackmail.

After a row they asked their ex partner to accompany them on holiday. I was to move out while they went. Obviously didn't happen . Made up. Went on the hol. (Paid for by me but on their credit card)

Following another row they altered their will. The house we "share" is in partners name not mine. I pay each month but they use that money for holidays so in effect they see it as i do not contribute to the mortgage. I do also pay half bills on top of that . It's a third of my (professional) wage. After an argument I threatened to move out and said this privately to a friend via text. Partner screen shot my conversations with said friend and decided it was proof enough that they were justified in altering their will to cut me out and leave our house - that I pay for and buy things for and decorate and furnish - to their ex partner.

In the event of my partner dying I would have discovered they had left our house to an ex and I'd have been made homeless at that point.
But this is ok! They did leave me an insurance policy (which would not have bought me so much as a bedsit)
I've left my insurance to partner and a % to my children.

I own a house with ex husband but I've signed it over to ex and kids. (Adults all)
If I died tomorrow partners life wouldn't alter other than me not being there.
If they died tomorrow I'd be homeless. So all I asked was they made provision for me to remain in our home given we aren't married and aren't ever likely to be. They said they had . They lied.

I cannot get beyond this act of absolute cruelty and spite .
They have told me they did it for revenge because they didn't like
Me talking about them with my friend (and they screenshot the conversation from my fb messenger). My friend doesn't speak highly of partner it's true - but that's down to how partner treats me though they will not take any responsibility for that. It is all my fault and if I call them on their abusive behaviour they get angry and deflect.

They use my friendship against me to the point I've had to end it and tell
Friend not to contact me anymore because partner always finds out and it makes my life a misery.

I now have no friends left but partner says that is my own fault.

All I wanted was them to fight for this relationship and be sorry.

They said the words to start with but then when I said I was struggling to get past this latest they got angry and now its all my fault again. No love shown or caring or genuine remorse-! Just a well you deserved it attitude.

I'm beginning to realise that there is no partnership here and no love lost . Trust is gone . Both sides . They say they cannot ever open up to me for fear I share (another reason I'm stalked online and proof they cannot trust me ) and I can't comprehend such an act of cruelty and spite enough to ever trust them again.

Believe it or not this was someone I was desperate to marry and be with because at one point I was absolutely in love with them. I never thought about whose money was whose. I wanted to share my life and everything else.

Now I'm lost . I've no sense of right or wrong anymore because everything is always my fault and it's my actions that cause the consequences. If they find this thread there will be new consequences. I betray them by talking. But if I don't examine this I'm going to make myself ill. I am in desperate need of perspective. Is it me?? Am I in the wrong? That I confided in a friend meant the end of that friendship. Partner couldn't handle me maintaining contact. It seems I'm supposed to keep quiet about all of this or it betrays their trust. I feel utterly trapped and muted. I can't tell anyone anything.

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ohfourfoxache · 07/04/2019 16:00

On this website there is a section on what to take with you when leaving an abusive relationship

www.womenshealth.gov/relationships-and-safety/domestic-violence/leaving-abusive-relationship

This website will tell you what you’re entitled to

www.entitledto.co.uk

You have got to leave this bastard. But for the love of all that’s holy be careful. He’s dangerous.

anamechangeaday · 09/04/2019 13:45

Jesus . Now I'm in trouble for using the bloody phone. I ring 2 people. One is a relative and one a friend and I used £40 of calls because he changed the contract. Caused 3rd world war so now I'm not able to use phone .

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anamechangeaday · 09/04/2019 19:52

I'm really really upset.

Dpmbeen kicking off all day over the phone bill of 37£

So I messaged ex dh and asked if he could lend me £20. He is so kind and a gentle soul. He immediately messaged me back saying was 20 enough. He gets at leat a
Third less in wages than me. I'm now
Tempted to ask him if me
And the hound could lodge there while I get sorted. Also tempted to take him on hol or dd instead of partner who is being a controlling arse. I can't keep going like this. I've paid his half of a £4200 holiday and he went batshit over a £37 phone bill.

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Firgoodnesssake · 09/04/2019 23:18

Op you know what you need to do. Cut your losses and Just leave
Who cares about a holiday and if you’re losing some money, you need to leave
It would appear that anywhere would be better than there with him
It’s up to you

Tighnabruaich · 10/04/2019 12:22

I rarely comment on posts like these, as so much wiser MNetters have great advice, but I couldn't read it and not say something to you.

I don't think you are seeing things quite clearly, as he has done such a number on you. This is abnormal, this is not a loving, equal relationship. He seems to actually hate you.

Will you lose the money for the holiday if you cancel, or just the deposit? £4,200 is a huge amount for a holiday for two, why would you want to take this horrible, horrible person with you? Cancel it, do not let him benefit from your generosity for one day more.

Do you think your ex would let you stay for a while? If you both (you and ex) could live together amicably enough while you save, it does sound like a good solution. Because I think you just have to get the hell out of there. He has betrayed you, insulted you, taken your hard-earned money - really, why stay if you can get out? He's never going to change. I'd rather start all over again in a bedsit and regain my self-esteem.

anamechangeaday · 10/04/2019 19:02

I know what I need to do - I'm so sorry I am being so weak.

He changed tack completely and apologised and then tried to be really
Engaging and touchy feely. I think He senses I'm st the end of my tether with him so now it's harder to stick to my guns.

I phoned my dsis last night and told her I'd have trouble phoning her in future. She is 61 . Doesn't suffer fools but was in an abusive marriage so she gets it.

She says she rues the day "you met this bastard " .

I think I will get there . I'm just ashamed to say I don't think I'm quite ready to make that leap.

I was abused as a child. I really felt I'd got totally past it and now I'm
Right back in victim mode and I'm finding it incredibly hard to leave.

When I left home it was my other dsis who just extracted me and I lived with her. I was 16. She did it for me. And I was fine but only because I had my
Best friend and advocate- ex dh. He really helped me. We made a good life together and had two amazing children.

Now its like I'm 10 again. And I feel
Powerless to act. I'm so sorry. I'm not managing to act. Dp isn't her always so I get snippets of normal. I know I'm being frustrating. It's
Pathetic. And my job demands authority and assertiveness. I can do it then. I go home and become mrs obsequious.

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springydaff · 10/04/2019 19:41

Have you got on the Freedom Programme yet? It will help break the victim/powerless hell you're in.

No-one here is going to want to hear you complaining over and over about him. You need to take some action and the Freedom Programme is a simple and easy step that doesn't force you one way or the other.

Go along to the group. Reading about it on your own isn't enough, you need to be there with other people.

You've got this op. You can do this.

anamechangeaday · 10/04/2019 19:54

Ok
Thank you. I will sign off this username now. I won't keep complaining. Sorry. 💐 thanks again for the info 🙏

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MysteryMom · 11/04/2019 08:47

Op, please ask your ex-DH for help. Get out of this abusive relationship. He is evil! You can use your own phone as much as you blood well like! If he changed the contact, go out and get anew phone that you pay for! F’ him and his controlling ways. You are a bloody adult and can chat on your phone all you want. You are not a teenager who needs their phone and internet use monitored for inappropriate use or for people taking advantage!

He is financially abusive, emotionally abusive, base he ever physically abused you? Threatened to assault you? Hit walls or the like when he’s mad?

Please, get out for your own sanity. I know your DSis will help. I am sure your ex-dh will help in the short term.

Your “partner” is toxic. Remove it from your life and you will feel so much better and free to be yourself again. It will be amazing once all the shit is over with.

Musti · 11/04/2019 10:27

Why did you sign your house over to your exh? Is there any equity in it? And if so is there any way you could get some of that for a big deposit? Get help from your friends and family and leave this abusive man. See how much you would lose if you cancelled the holiday and cancel it if you can as it's a hell of a lot of money. Above all, leave this abusive man.

anamechangeaday · 19/04/2019 19:38

I'm reading the Lundy Bancroft book and I see so many familiar things.

Should I keep this to myself? Or let him read it?

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ohfourfoxache · 19/04/2019 22:10

Please, for God’s sake, don’t tell him A THING. Keep your powder dry and work at leaving him.

You will be at risk if he gets wind of your plans. Please, stay safe. You can do this x

springydaff · 20/04/2019 14:02

Oh Lord no, keep very quiet. Very dangerous to let an abuser know 1. What he's really like and 2. Your plans. He has no intention of acknowledging the former, and will be very angry at having it pointed out and 2. You are putting yourself in danger to let him know you plan to go.

Dont forget to cover your tracks online xx

AbbieLexie · 20/04/2019 14:11

Flowers 💐 🌷 🌼 Speak to exdh and talk with dd. Please leave. I feel distressed reading how you must leave. Please take the advice wise MN people are giving you.

AbbieLexie · 20/04/2019 14:12

live but please leave.

anamechangeaday · 21/04/2019 12:56

He is never violent or physically abusive.

It words as weapons. Ridiculing, belittling, shouting, swearing.

His face tells me he's enraged and it happens in a split second so I can't ever work out what I've done and it's often something really stupid or minor.

The latest thing was " shoving my phone under his nose every fucking day". ( I was thinking he might take interest in a info page on where the holiday is but no.... it enraged him. He has no interest in anything I want to share or show him. )

It is not always like this and I wondered if he could ever see the error of his ways .

Anyway I will keep my mouth shut as advised.

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anamechangeaday · 22/04/2019 02:15

I am desperately in need of some new clothes and realised tonight I can't afford anything because of this holiday. Every penny of mine is going to paying it. He is used to having holidays because his ex paid for them but contributed nothing to household expenses.
He however seems to be managing to pay for new jeans and gym gear. I'm pissed off. Im wearing clothes with holes in. Im not booking another holiday. Im leaving myself short to pay a luxury break I can't afford.

I've looked at cancelling but I'll lose 70% now. I'm just not doing it again. He is too selfish to realise I'm going short to pay for his holiday. And he won't give a shit anyway.

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anamechangeaday · 22/04/2019 18:54

I've told him I'm not paying for any more holidays.

His pension is worth 5 times mine and he's set to inherit an estate of over a million. (Sooner rather than later by the look of things sadly)

He won't share and made it clear I'm on my own financially at retirement.

So I've said I'll be saving for my future and retirement. I can't afford holidays for two. I said I would be a pauper compared to him.

He said nothing and walked off.

He's spent all afternoon upstairs tinkering away on the computer as he thinks he also has a ppi claim due.

I've just been told to go away and leave him to it as he needs to concentrate.

My life could be worse. But it's not nice. It's like being in the headmasters office on a daily basis.

I will begin to save . Financial freedom will bring freedom I think. And he has been forewarned that the free trips are ending. At least there's been no argument.

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anamechangeaday · 23/04/2019 00:55

What I don't really get is what he thinks he will spend his vast wealth on.

He didn't want a disabled child so now he is childless.

He has no siblings.

He clearly doesn't want me all that much.
He likes dogs. But if/when I go I'll take my dog with me.

He will be alone. I've said this before but he says that doesn't bother him.

I have no value. ☹️

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anamechangeaday · 24/04/2019 00:10

This is for my benefit but I'm going to post this because one day I'll re read and confirm what I know.

Today he has been moody and off. Snappy one word answers. Didn't want to spend any time with at all choosing a different room to sit in.

I have asked what's wrong but got told to stop asking.

I have no idea. Maybe it because it's Tuesday? Maybe I wore the wrong colour knickers?

I didn't try to engage after the first couple of rebuffs. Stayed in a separate room had a few g&t and watched shite on tv.

I wish I could get a mortgage ☹️. I have enough money but because I had to get the Iva no mortgage company would touch me.

I've fucked this up
So
Badly!

By the time I'm eligible for a mortgage I'll be 50. That's pretty limiting isn't it . I need financial advice but no point till iva paid up. I can save for now .

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anamechangeaday · 24/04/2019 00:12

54* not 50. Can't imagine being eligible then due to age . ?

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pog100 · 24/04/2019 01:23

I think you probably would be eligible but honestly I think you are too fixated on the mortgage. It's clear to anyone on this thread that you MUST escape this awful despicable man and this and only this is your priority. I get that your upbringing has made you emotionally vulnerable but you can also see this logically. Not that money is anywhere near your top priority but if you can afford to pay for these holidays on to of his mortgage and house costs you can't be on too bad a salary. You will be fine financially. Maybe not what you had planned but you really need to escape now!
Please, please do it. Lean on your friends, sisters, ex. Even ones you have lost contact with. They will WANT to help you.
Good luck!

Nat6999 · 24/04/2019 01:57

Register with your local council housing service & any nearby towns if run by a different council, it could help you if you decide to leave, most of it is done online, you just have to take your ID in to the office. Most housing associations are dealt with through the council housing service. It might not be your first choice of housing but it can put a roof over your head if you need one & there isn't usually a credit check.

prawnsword · 24/04/2019 02:16

Who cares about the mortgage? All you need is a pet friendly rental, or a friend’s place to stay at until you can get on your feet. This situation is miserable & being in your mid-50s you deserve to spend the rest of your life in peace & harmony! You sound way too invested in getting a mortgage, when you really just need to escape, ASAP

Coyoacan · 24/04/2019 03:09

A friend of mine left an abusive relationship at your age, with nothing to her name, but she got her sanity back and she knows that as long as she isn't with that man, she is very fortunate. Her ex never hit her either, but he gave her all kinds of mental health problems.

Good luck, OP. Do not let him know anything about your plans.

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