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whattodonow12 · 29/03/2019 11:38

Basically I'd like to hear what people feel about this situation and am I or my partner being unreasonable in what's going on - apologies if this turns out quite long.

My partner and his mum have always had a strained relationship - stems from what he tells me was quite an unhappy childhood in parts and most of his adulthood as she was a heavy drinker and a narcissist (been sober years now). I've only known her since she hasn't drunk so I can only imagine, but could see how their relationship wasn't 'normal'.

Anyway I encouraged him to build bridges early on in our relationship and fast forward a few years, the relationship was still strained (lived away so didn't have many interactions with her) but we moved in with her to save money to buy a house of her own. In hindsight it wasn't a good move. It was a very stressful time for everyone but basically I saw another side to her which was manipulative and bullying (think ringing us whenever we left the house, partner worked from the house and she'd often barge in on him while he was on a call to demand various jobs were done). We moved out into a place of our own as soon as we could.

She and her husband (my partner's dad) were living separately and gaining grounds for divorce but it all stalled when he sadly discovered he had incurable cancer. He had a good job all his life and wanted to make sure his children and my partner's mum were all set up and to avoid paying a shedload of inheritance tax he left the bulk of his estate on paper to partner's mum but wrote a letter of intent alongside his will which outlined his wishes for more of the estate to be shared between the children to be invested wisely (think property). Partner's mum took him back into the family home and they made their peace, and where he passed away a lot sooner than we all expected.

Fast forward over a year since his death, partner's mum claims to have never discussed letter of intent with anyone, even going as far to say she was completely unaware of it (either a lie or genuine forgetfulness as she has poor memory) long story short she's claiming that his dad wanted her to have the remaining estate. Partner is understandably not impressed but in heated exchanges that have followed he's said he wants to go no contact, including not letting her see grandchildren. He can't believe she's stealing the dad's legacy which he wanted to share with his children to make sure they were set up. It's basically the final nail in the coffin of what was already a strained and difficult relationship.

This no contact is conflicting for me - he asked for my support in what is a very stressful and difficult decision to make which I did as I knew it was going to cause a big fallout. ( been nearly 3 months now) he reminds me that she is quite poisonous and doesn't want anything to do with her, she's stolen off the children ultimately etc. I've tried to encourage some family therapy, reminded him that the children are only young once, this will have further implications down the line at family do's that we wont go to if she is there etc. He is flatly refusing it as she has refused family mediation and is basically standing firm on the inheritance and he is standing firm on no contact as she is a difficult woman to be around (narcissistic) (and he has had a lifetime of knowing her and doesnt want her in his life anymore which extends to the grandchildren. She contacted me And said I've been part of the cruel decision and she's gutted but can see that the children are happy and looked after so that's the main thing,

Has anyone been in similar position and WWYD? am I doing the right thing in supporting him in this decision? 3 y/o mentions her occasionally (she was spending a day a week with her before the fallout) but partner wants no more mention of her name in the house. It's all so difficult and am seriously considering moving us all away so at least I've got some family support around us. Thanks for reading this far!

(apologies for typos, typing 1 handed while bf-ing baby and 3 y/o wanting my attention Smile )

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Aussiebean · 29/03/2019 11:50

Yes you are doing the right thing supporting your husband in his decision to keep this nasty toxic person away from his children.

Look at the stately homes thread and read some of the links in the first few posts.

Then read some of the experiences others with narc mothers have dealt with. Look up the flying monkey, which you at in danger of becoming.

She won’t change, she will turn on your children.

Support your husband.

whattodonow12 · 29/03/2019 12:13

thanks for your reply - Just looked up the flying monkey definition and yes I think you're right. I will have a look at the stately homes thread now x

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Aussiebean · 29/03/2019 19:11

It’s hard for someone who hasn’t lived it to understand. My dh was always supportive, but has only just got it now after 10 years.

It’s isnalso hard for someone to recognise their parents as toxic. If you are lucky you spot it early. Your dh has done that. Well done him. Hopefully his adult life will be a happy one.

CanuckBC · 29/03/2019 19:28

Your husband lived her shitty parenting and doesn’t want her behaviour affecting your children. The inheritance was the straw that broke his back. It was a backhand act to do that wasn’t necessary and evil. She stole from all of you for her own benefit and went against her dead husbands wishes.

She is evil and shouldn’t be around your children. You have seen this behaviour yourself. You won’t be able to protect your children from it. Just try and mop up the mess after. Not worth it.

AttilatheMeerkat · 29/03/2019 19:59

Support your husband, unlike you he has known her a lot longer than you have. You have not come across the likes of her before and fell for her manipulative behaviours initially.

You have been manipulated by his mother as she could not get to her son so she went to you instead. She sees you as easily manipulated and the flying monkey sent in by her to do her bidding for her. You have probably come from an emotionally healthy family but your husband has not been so lucky here.

Family therapy will never work with someone as disordered of thinking as his mother, it’s really no point. If she is too difficult/toxic/batshit for you to deal with it’s the same deal for your children too. He is right to protect his children from his mother and you need to follow his lead here. Narcissists as well really do make for being deplorably bad grandparents and she additionally is a drunkard.

Children need healthy role models for grandparents and his mother does not at all fit the bill. You are protecting your kids from bad things here by keeping you all well away from her.

whattodonow12 · 29/03/2019 20:51

wow well it seems pretty conclusive. I wasn't expecting such a resounding response.
I just couldn't comprehend having a mother like that (and therefore found it hard to believe my partner that she could be that bad) as I've had a very happy and stable upbringing with parents who support and put their children first. it's going to be a difficult road initially but ultimately I think it's one we need to go down. thank you for all of your replies, I've really needed the support!

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IHateUncleJamie · 29/03/2019 23:01

As a daughter of a mother like your DH’s, please believe him and please support him wholeheartedly. The decision to go No Contact is never taken lightly and it takes a lot of strength and courage to take the necessary step to protect yourself and your children, so well done to your DH. One of the most difficult things of all is having other people doubting and even disbelieving the adult child.

Toxic parents become toxic Grandparents; maybe not immediately but it always happens. Removing this woman from your life while your dcs are still v young is the best thing. Flowers

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