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Is my husband's behaviour ok to you?

13 replies

firsttimejoj · 23/03/2019 20:15

My Brazilian husband and I have been together for 12 years, married for 10 years. I struggle with trust issues and I don't know if it's because I'm being irrational and controlling or if it's for a real reason.

6 months after getting married, I discovered that he'd been talking to women online one evening when I was out at a work event.

Obviously I was devastated and since then I've worked hard to rebuild my trust in him after he explained himself. Sometimes I get nagging questions of doubt over his friendships with women (he's Brazilian, women find him attractive and he's very friendly in person and by text).

In my weaker irrational moments over the years, I have questioned the intention there is in some friendships (maybe I've let slip once every few years).

Anyhow, there is one new friendship he has with an older Brazilian married woman who he met via a friend on a solo trip that he took to Brazil last month. He actively avoided telling me about her at first and now I've discovered that he's been deleting some messages that they exchange.

When I confronted him, he claimed his innocence and said that Brazilian people send very demonstrative messages to each other and that I should get over it. He said thst he deletes them to avoid me getting upset. Whilst I respect his forthright response and am bolstered by that, I am challenged by the fact that they seem to exchange lots of messages, poetic quotes, music, pictures of themselves.

I tried to explain to him that it looked like she had a crush on him which he was encouraging but he's still having none of it.

He says that I'm being controlling and now I'm wondering if he's right. I'm just keen to hear from some sane women as it's going round and round in my head.

OP posts:
Dieu · 23/03/2019 20:30

It's not right, and if the messages were so innocent, he wouldn't be deleting them.
I'm not comfortable with him turning this on you, and making out that you're paranoid and unreasonable. You're not.
You'll drive yourself round the twist with this man, and no good will come of it.
Sorry OP Thanks

TurquoiseLagoon · 23/03/2019 20:32

Whether or not his behaviour would be OK with anyone else, it's not OK with you. Where's your line? That's the important question.

His behaviour wouldn't be OK with me anyway BTW

MikeUniformMike · 23/03/2019 20:34

I don't think you sound controlling or irrational. It may be quite innocent but if it seems suspicious then he shouldn't be communicating with this woman.

Nc1548 · 23/03/2019 20:34

If he can't do it next to his wife/with his wife's knowledge he shouldn't be doing it, whatever IT is.

Halo84 · 23/03/2019 20:36

If you’ve been jealous in the past, I can understand deleting messages.

My husband is Russian. He doesn’t communicate online, but he routinely speaks to women from Russia that he meets warmly. In my culture it’s flirtatious, in his, it’s not (I lived in his culture for a time).

I know as a fact he has never cheated on me.

In the end, it’s about your trust in him.

MsDogLady · 23/03/2019 22:42

You are not overreacting. He hid this woman and is now deleting messages. They are exchanging many messages, photos, music, poetry. It sounds like they have developed inappropriate emotional intimacy. He is enjoying this ego boost.

Your husband does not care that you are uncomfortable about his relationship with this OW. He is manipulating you and shifting the blame by calling you controlling. He is trying to make you shut up and back off.

I would leave my husband for treating me with such contempt.

Al2O3 · 23/03/2019 23:02

Brazilian people do wear their hearts on their sleeves. It is rare to find a Brazilian man who does not cry when times are rough. They book love hotels the way British people might book a spa day or a round of golf. It is a cultural thing and I know a few Brazilian men and women who are comfortable slipping into other people when they can.

Josuk · 23/03/2019 23:14

If we are into generalisations - my experience with Brasilian people (and Latin people, in broader terms) - isn’t that they are running around England looking for love hotels.
But they do communicate different from the typical Brits.
Things are warmer, and more emotional, end just full of life. And compliments are handed around easily - and that isn’t specific to M/F... I get hearts and kisses from straight females, for ex. Just the way they talk.

You’ve been with him for 10 years. But seems that all these times you’ve been feeling insecure. Because he is an attractive man?
Well - he chose I marry you.
Didn’t he?

No one can stop anyone from cheating by controlling their messages.
However - one can spoil a relationship with doubts and complaints.

babysharkah · 23/03/2019 23:37

He's using 'being Brazilian' to get away with bullshit. I wouldn't trust any of it.

leonasa · 23/03/2019 23:43

I get hearts and kisses from straight British females and I'm British, that's not a Brazilian thing Hmm

I've also spent years living in Latin America, and most Latin American women would also have an issue with male partners exchanging poetry and pictures regularly with women and then deleting the texts.

It depends on how frequent this is and if there is a flirty/ romantic tone?

SimonJT · 23/03/2019 23:50

I’m not allowed to do certain things as my partner is controlling, I still do them, but I hide them to avoid getting in to trouble. All perfectly okay things to do as well.

I’m a hypocrit as this doesn’t happen with us (which is why we are splitting up as I finally saw sense), but surely you need a compromise that you are both happy with, a relationship shouldn’t be about one person getting their own way.

Zerrin13 · 24/03/2019 00:26

When you are married surely your husband's friendships with other women should not be causing you any distress. If they are you need to question why he is participating in this shitty behaviour. He shouldn't want or need any relationships with these women. It sounds as if he loves the attention and actively encourages it.

stofi · 24/03/2019 00:34

Slipping into other people, I'm agog.

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