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What do you make of my predicament/relationship?

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Ceciliadownonmyknees · 22/03/2019 21:29

Please be kind. Not in the strongest of places, but I'm interested in getting a generalised view of where both I and my relationship are now at:

Met DP around 10 years ago. We became friends through friends. He always struck me as a very generous and helpful man, always a good friend to everyone it seemed and very well liked. Everyone seemed to want to protect him, nobody ever had a had word to say about him, but he was always a bit scruffy and didn't seem to look after himself too well.

We started dating after a couple of years of being in the same friendship group and he seemed nice, although a little awkward around me. He had never had a girlfriend before.

We took it slowly at first, however I found myself pregnant after 6 months of dating after being wrongly advised on taking my new birth control. It was a huge decision but we decided to keep the baby. He told me I needed to move in with him as soon as possible (I think he was embarrassed that we were living seperately whilst expecting a child together.) I was renting with a friend at the time, so I agreed to move in and give things a go.

During the pregnancy, I became ill and was put on bed rest. DP seemed to continue his life as normal- going out with friends etc and I grew very lonely in a new area nowhere near to my closest friends anymore. I grew apart from my friends too as I was stuck in the house all the time. He also seemed to expect me to clean and tidy up after him as he did none of it himself. He seemed very dis-interested at times and also very selfish and I thought I was going mad as everyone loves him!

His friends seemed to then grow to dislike me, as if I'd taken him away or something. He told me it was all in my head. (It wasnt)

Baby was born and I was struck down with terrible PND. I felt v resentful of DP whose life hadn't seemed to have changed as much. I didn't feel he was on my team. His mother became very demanding of me. DP seemed to have no understanding or empathy. The plans we had made to marry when the baby arrived got conveniently forgotten after giving DS his surname. I tried speaking to DP about how I was feeling etc but I felt rejected and unheard. I stayed as I was determined to make it work.

3 years later, I had made new friends, started my own business and was doing very well. DP and I were still together and getting along much better (although not perfectly) when I was told that my fertility was very much at risk due to large fibroids and endometriosis. I was told that it would only decline more and more as time went on so DP and I decided to have a second child together (I know what you're all thinking, but I couldn't risk never having any more children ever). We talked about it at length and about how DP could better support us emotionally this time. He was fully on board it seemed.

Our second child has brought some rough challenges for us. He is now 1 year old. But DP has completely checked out emotionally and I really dislike him. He is selfish and it seems he sees opportunity in my misfortune, such as being stuck at home breastfeeding in those early days and he would see it as limitless childcare for both DCs whilst he pleased himself. Even on my birthday. He left me at home with them alone when DC2 was just a few weeks old and I'd asked him to stay at home with us. But he seemed to sweep my feelings aside as if they were a nuisance to his plans.

He was much more hands on with DC1, but has switched off with DC2. I resent him and feel constantly irritated by his strange, repetitive ways and rut-like, de-motivated existance.

But everyone loves him and has no idea what he is like at home.

I work for myself but my income is a little unpredictable, I also want to have the flexibility to spend time with DCs whilst they are young, but I rely on his income to enable this.

He's a loving father, but a little switched off I guess. He adores his boys however.

I feel like he sees me as the house maid, live in childcare and not much else. I don't feel valued and I my feelings are not considered important.

There has been no more talk of marriage and to be fair, I don't think it would be right anyway, theres not much love here afterall.

But I know I'm vulerable from a financial point of view and I know I'm not happy with him.

Please don't judge me for the situation I am now in... I just want to know what you might do in my shoes? And any words of encouragement or support would be good too.

OP posts:
Accountant222 · 22/03/2019 21:46

I don't have an answer but I see your point. Perhaps you being the first girlfriend, then settling down together, he doesn't have much experience of relationships

Ceciliadownonmyknees · 22/03/2019 21:54

He doesn't at all.
We tried relationship counselling and the counsellor seemed to hint at DP having aspergers, although the hints were lost on DP.
She then suggested that I needed to take on the role of organiser/communicator in our relationship and accept that DP wasn't capable of meeting me half way. DP also told the counsellor that he didn't see why he needed to share so much of his income with the family and she empathised with him, whilst telling me I was wrong for feeling so offended by this. I refused to go again and won't see another counsellor together, I now go alone.

OP posts:
FaithInfinity · 22/03/2019 22:03

Well there’s an ironic statement if ever I saw one! the counsellor seemed to hint at DP having aspergers, although the hints were lost on DP Smile Sorry, I’m an Aspie. As a general rule, we don’t get hints!

However time and time again I see posts on the relationships board where the question of whether the OH (usually male) might have ASD/Asperger’s when the indication is that they’re just selfish twats! Honestly, yours sounds like the latter. You’ve asked him to change his behaviour, he hasn’t. He doesn’t want to share his income with you...that’s concerning! I think if I was in your position I’d honestly be getting my shit together, paperwork, talk to Women’s Aid, CAB. Work out what you’d be entitled to on your own.
I assume you still live in his house? So he could in theory kick you out at any time? I don’t often say LTB but I really don’t think he’ll change and you’re in a very vulnerable position.

Ceciliadownonmyknees · 22/03/2019 22:19

We actually own the house equally now so not as vulnerable as I started out. But thankyou for the advice @faithinfinity

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FaithInfinity · 22/03/2019 23:27

That’s good news. You definitely need legal advice now then.

Weejo39 · 23/03/2019 06:38

Before reading the other threads I would have said he sounds autistic.... a lot of things would then add up.

Verynice · 23/03/2019 06:46

Can I just ask that people don't advise Women's Aid for marital problems. It is a scarce resource for women in abusive relationships. Not for typical couple breakdowns.

OP, you can leave you know.

FaithInfinity · 23/03/2019 09:11

My apologies. OP it’s definitely worth talking to the CAB and maybe a lawyer though.

Bluntness100 · 23/03/2019 09:19

I work for myself but my income is a little unpredictable, I also want to have the flexibility to spend time with DCs whilst they are young, but I rely on his income to enable this.

In every single one of these many many threads, where women are in unhappy relationships, this line appears. Every single time.

Op, you can't have it every way, you are there for the money, no more no less, if this wasn't an AsPect you would leave.

So you need to make a decision, what is more important to you. The money or not being in an unhappy relationship with someone you actively dislike?

DonPablo · 23/03/2019 09:21

Why stay? If you were a lone parent you wouldn't have his weight around your neck, clearing up after him, and living with someone emotionally unavailable. Yes, it would be hard as a lone parent but I think you'd be surprised how much lighter your life could be because it sounds like he's dragging you down.

It's never an easy decision to make, especially when you tell yourself that he's not a bad man because he doesn't abuse you, but it's OK to not want to stay in a relationship that doesn't bring you joy and happiness.

PicsInRed · 23/03/2019 09:24

Yeah, my first thought was "christ this could be my story", second thought "aspergers". It's fairly classic.

He won't change. You can be the best unpaid personal assistant in the world and this won't get better. I would look into individual counselling with someone who specialised in spouses of autistic individuals. Counselling with an abusive partner is never recommended as they will use the counsellor and your own disclosures against you.

You need to think about how you want the rest of YOUR life to look. And think about the process of leaving/safety planning, because there's a chance he won't take well to his possession leaving.

user1493413286 · 23/03/2019 09:31

In your situation I would leave to be honest; in the nicest possible way it sounds like you and him would probably have found that you weren’t suited and split up but having children had kept you together. There’s nothing wrong with that but if you really aren’t suited then I’d want to be on my own and have the possibility of meeting someone who really made me happy in the future.
However you’re the only one who knows whether there is any chance of things changing and if you want to try. I’d see a solicitor about the house before you do anything though. Make sure you know exactly what he earns so you get the right child support and see if you’re entitled to child tax credits etc

stressedoutpa · 23/03/2019 09:39

I think I would get myself back into paid work with an employer then leave. There isn't much to keep you other than your current lack of earning power.

warriorprincessandwidowed · 23/03/2019 11:14

I don't understand you say he does not like child 2 but he is a good father.

You need to sort your shit out and stop saying he is good when clearly he us not. Once you stop trying to make him seem like a good father it will be easier for you to think clearly and fuck the twat off

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