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My heart is in shreds

33 replies

SepiaTonedLove · 22/03/2019 08:47

This novel is my first post on Mumsnet but I have been lurking for a while. I'm so sorry for the absolute ramble. If it’s too long, the basic jist is: he cheated, and lied, and continues to lie. I’m raging but I still love him.

We’ve been together for nearly 20 years. Life has been a little tough on us but everything was always Ok so long as we were together.

I had complete faith in him throughout our relationship until my women's intuition discovered itself over Christmas. I was away visiting family and (I know now) she came to OUR home to "study"... overnight... with a movie and wine.

At the time, I was convinced I was being paranoid and knew I was depressed (5 years+ ttc would do that) so I looked for a therapist.

Red flags popped up here and there through January and February and finally, two weeks ago, there was one so blatant I couldn't hack it any more and I am wholeheartedly ashamed to say: I snooped. And, since it's something I don't take lightly, I decided to do it well the first time so as not to have to do it again.

So, I spent a day copy-pasting visits to her address, daytime hotel visits, directions to restaurants, YouTube instructions for how to decant a good red (this when I was visiting my parents), and a cinema date.

From what I can tell, they started out by training together before Christmas. She's an ex-pro athlete, he's a dedicated sportsman, and the job they are preparing for requires peak physical fitness. He would normally tell me everything he does, so the fact he didn't mention it at the time means he already knew, or it had already started.

I compared my findings to our WhatsApp chat history and that, for me, was the source of all the pain I'm feeling now. Lies, lies, lies.

(Oh, and once things kicked off, he installed a Vault App - if you don't know what that is, it's a phone app that looks and behaves like a calculator until you put in the right combination of numbers. It's used to hide naughty videos, photographs and other things you don't want your unwilling cuckquean to see.)

I had seen enough. He was doing exams, so I waited until they were over before confronting him.

That was Tuesday, just passed. He told me it was "just the once", that it was a mistake, that she pursued him relentlessly and he resisted valiantly, that I've no idea what it's like on the course - so intense, that 4 of his classmates have already broken up with their long-term loves, that it's my fault, that he wants babies and I'm infertile, that he wants me to get fit again, to have a better job and to buy a new sofa.

The following day, he came home after class instead of going to "study". I was still working and he tried to sit me down for another chat, 5 minutes before I had to start an online meeting. He was actually starting off well, with what seemed to be a heartfelt apology, but I had to tell him to stop, because I didn't want to enter the meeting with boiling emotions.

We haven't spoken since. I can't look at him without feeling a wave of rage, sadness, regret or revulsion. I've tried, but I can't get into bed beside him at night.

I've lost 4 kilograms since Sunday because I can't eat for the nausea.

The thought of being stuck at home with him this weekend turns my stomach, so I'm leaving this evening to visit my mum who is on holiday. She so kindly told me to jump on the next plane join her for the weekend with her while I try to sort my head out.

So, that's where I am now. I'll leave for the airport before he comes home. I'll send him a message to say I won't be back for a while and then I'll turn my phone off. Is that bad? I feel like I’m doing something wrong. I don’t want to say how long I’ll be gone in case he decides to dial her up and tell her he's lonely. Paranoia is a monster, and he gave it to me.

I also feel like it’s wrong to write all this out for strangers to read, but I have to get it out of my head without disrupting our circle. I've realised some serious mistakes I made in recent years. My reaction to our fertility struggle has been to blame myself, to wallow and - worst of all - to shrink into myself and cut out my wonderful friends and family. I lost my joy, my confidence, my waistline. I gave up all my hobbies and projects. So, I do understand how it happened that he came to fall for a pretty, studious, fit other woman.

He told me it's me he wants. His sureness that we'll stay together because he says so is pissing me off nearly as much as the lies. He's probably right, though, at least until the IVF fails. I love him more than my life and I've wished for so long to give him a child. He will be a wonderful father. He is incredibly sweet and smiley, gentle, simple, hardworking, tactile, and loving.

And a liar.

Rage, sadness, regret and love. F*ing love.

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NotTheFordType · 22/03/2019 09:35

He will be a wonderful father. He is incredibly sweet and smiley, gentle, simple, hardworking, tactile, and loving

I really fucking doubt it OP.

that he wants babies and I'm infertile, that he wants me to get fit again, to have a better job and to buy a new sofa

I'm really sorry but that last part made me LOL. My last ex had similar beliefs. "Champagne lifestyle lemonade money" I believe is the phrase.

LailaByron · 22/03/2019 09:43

I’m so sorry this has happened to you. I don’t think it’s unfair of you to hop on a plane and go....you need time to sort all of this out in your mind, without his input.
Personally myself, once the trust has been broken that would be it for me. I couldn’t and wouldn’t want a life spent wondering where he was, who he’s texting, what he really wants....but that’s me. You take the time to work it out how you want to and on your terms. Best of luck x

Sunshineandflipflops · 22/03/2019 09:48

Sorry you are in pain. It’s the worst feeling and it seems right now like you will feel like this forever. I can’t say you won’t if you stay together because I left my husband when I discovered his infidelity and just over a year later I am doing much better but those early days were dark.
I can’t imagine what infertility struggles must do to you on top but what I will say is from experience if he’s done it once when things are ‘tough’ and at a time when you needed his support then he will do it again. In my case, not for another 10 years but he did it again.
My personal opinion is that you are better off out of this relationship before you potentially bring children into it but I realise it’s not that easy when you are in the middle of it.
Children don’t make things easier, they make things more stressful and if that’s his way of dealing with stress then it says a lot x

Sunshineandflipflops · 22/03/2019 09:50

Also, it’s easy to apologise after you’ve had your fun...it’s not so easy (apparently) to be faithful and respectful to your partner.

Huskylover1 · 22/03/2019 09:59

He's fucked someone else, and you feel like you're doing something wrong by going away for a few days? Really?

Personally, I think flying away for a few days, is a great plan, however, I absolutely would NOT tell him where you are. Let him fucking wonder. Leave the phone on, and ignore all communication. Let the little shit fester.

pelirocco123 · 22/03/2019 10:05

Firstly , you have done nothing wrong in snooping ...I dont understand why so many on here think its something you should do
You sound very brave and strong , enjoy your time away and plan your next move

the new sofa bit made me laugh and think WTF

EKGEMS · 22/03/2019 10:07

Fuck that-throw his ass out and change the locks-he can sleep in a doghouse where he belongs! He wants babies and you're infertile? Had that been me I'd ask him "cremation or burial?"

Bun123 · 22/03/2019 10:18

You sound wonderful. He is lucky to have you.
You are a kind, sensitive, brave and honest woman.💐
I don’t know what to advise you other than to look after yourself xxxx

SepiaTonedLove · 22/03/2019 10:32

NotTheFordType Please, LOL away! I couldn't believe some of the shit that was coming out of his mouth. What made me LOL was after all that, and more, he said we're not gonna break up.

LailaByron I'd always thought the same as you: Once the trust is broken, that's it. However, now I'm here, I find I need space to settle my emotions before I make any firm decisions. Right now my ideas about what to do change every 5 minutes.

Sunshineandflipflops I also agree that now is not the time to bring a child into our relationship. In fact, I'm going to call my doc to schedule an STD check and birth control, just in case I fall back into bed with him. Given my luck, this would be the moment I successfully get knocked up!!!

HuskeyLover Thank you for writing that. You made me feel better about my decision to go away. However, I do think I'll turn off the phone because I want to disconnect completely for the few days.

pelirocco I felt so, so bad doing it, that when I discovered I could see all his application history (thank you Google) and when I decided to go for it, my stomach migrated up my throat and my entire body started trembling so much I had to lie down. That was BEFORE I saw any of the shit he got up to.

EKGEMS I would, but the house is his, and his family live too close!!

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Musti · 22/03/2019 10:33

I'm so sorry OP. I wouldn't message him about where you're going. Let him stew and wonder when you'll walk back in through the door just like he's left you wondering where he's been and what he's been doing. If things were bad with you he should have left you and not cheated on you. Don't blame yourself.

SepiaTonedLove · 22/03/2019 10:36

Wow, Bun, I was all full of anger and justification sending the last replies, and then I read your message and now I'm blubbing!!

Confused
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MumsyJ · 22/03/2019 10:42

@EKGEMS " cremation or burial" made me laugh out loud.

Poor OP, just look after yourself, spend time with your mum, mini holiday will do you a lot of good. Don't tell him your whereabouts nor an accurate return date.

If he's using infertility as a justification to cheating on you, he clearly can't be the "good father" you assumed, you deserve so much better than the idiot.

Sending you virtual hugs, but mum's hugs are always the best. X

Sunshineandflipflops · 22/03/2019 10:43

Don’t “fall back in to bed with him”! If you decide you want to give him another chance hen that’s up to you but don’t do anything with him until you have had chance to think things through properly and it is an informed decision you have made. You will just feel worse if you do.
Also, I’m sorry but I am fairly sure that while you are away he will at least be in contact with the OW, if not seeing her.

Orange6904 · 22/03/2019 15:06

So he's cheated and it's all your fault? Typical.

So sorry op, it's such a horrible shock, look after yourself while you are away.

adulthumanwolf · 22/03/2019 15:23

that it's my fault, that he wants babies and I'm infertile, that he wants me to get fit again, to have a better job and to buy a new sofa.

A NEW SOFA.

PM me your address, i'll come kick his nuts in for him while you're away. What a piece of shit he is. Seriously OP, put his belongings in bin bags and leave them on the front door step.

NewFoneWhoDis · 22/03/2019 15:33

Oh sweetheart. Flowers

Infertility in a committed couple is a shared infertility. Ours was. Of course DP was bereaved every time we lost another pregnancy, but it was NEVER my fault. To blame your infertilty for his cheating is the marker of a shite dad. Using this as an excuse or justification is NOT what good dads (potential or actual) do.

Fly to your mum, turn off your phone and DONT tell him where you are. That cocky arsehole who thinks he can explain away his cheating by blaming you deserves a few days of coming down to earth and seeing what life might be like without you. Your mum sounds amazing, so go and rest and cry and get pissed or whatever you need for the next few days.

poglets · 22/03/2019 17:28

I know you are in pain now but I can't begin to tell you what the pain will be like if you have children with someone who you know does not want you, fancy you, can't be loyal. What is worse is being trapped in that marriage because you stay for your children/have become so weak you can't make the break.

It is better to walk away now than never escape. Don't be me.

Hopoindown31 · 22/03/2019 17:30

Stoped reading when I saw his initial response to you. This areshole is not worth another minute of your time.

IncrediblySadToo · 22/03/2019 17:43

that it's my fault, that he wants babies and I'm infertile, that he wants me to get fit again, to have a better job and to buy a new sofa

Well, that just completely fucked any chance he had of your forgiving him surely?!

I DO understand how hard it is to separate when you’ve been together since the beginning of time and still love them. Unfortunately I also know how impossible it is to be happy after they’ve cheated, especially when they’re not taking full responsibility.

I could blather for hours to try to make you see that separating is the only sane thing to do, but I imagine you’re overwhelmed right now.

My single bit of advice would be to leave him and get your life back on track as soon as possible. Don’t ‘try to work it out’ & font spend years getting over him. Grieve the loss of the plans you had with him, but mindfully and briefly, then get on with your life. Hopefully you’ll meet someone lovely and have a family with them.

SepiaTonedLove · 22/03/2019 18:16

I'm at the airport now. Just finished a big glass of wine and ate a ham roll which is the closest thing to a meal I've had all week. It feels like I have a small boulder in my stomach.

As luck would have it, the sister of one of our mutual friends recognised me in the queue for security. I was shocked when she called me out and didn't really know what to say. I waited for her after the security check and asked her not to mention seeing me to her sister or my partner. Now I'm feeling guilty for asking such an awful thing of her and am fighting the urge to message her and explain why.

Thank you, thank you, all, for taking the time to write. I had no idea just how important this would be for me when I wrote that essay. Some of your messages are mighty painful to read but it's what I need to see.

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HeyCarrieAnneWhatsYourGame · 22/03/2019 18:22

You don’t have to have him back because he says so. There are a lot of options for you to become a parent without him and frankly I think you’d be better off as a single parent. Fuck him. Good luck.

HollowTalk · 22/03/2019 18:25

I would send her a message in case she's worried, and just say that you've had an argument and you need some time alone and please would she not tell anyone she's seen you.

Good for you for getting away. He's a bastard. Life might seem bad right now but it will get better. You have us all rooting for you.

SepiaTonedLove · 22/03/2019 18:55

Ok, I sent her a message to apologise and pretty much copy-pasted what you said, HollowTalk. Thank you.

I'm not afraid of being alone, really. I know I'll have more freedom to do what I want. I know I can support myself. But I know, if I decide to leave him, that I'll have to get through the heartbreak and loneliness. That will take a long time.

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HollowTalk · 22/03/2019 18:57

But there is nothing lonelier than living with someone who can betray you. Things will change for you, they really will. Flowers

Closetbeanmuncher · 22/03/2019 19:15

I would like to join @adulthumanwolf and participate in kicking his nuts it

Your fertility, weight, a sofa???

The absolute shite that comes from some people's mouths when they've been caught cheating never ceases to astound me.

Not even the decency to accept responsibility and grovel....please sack this piece of shit off and decant a bottle of red down his throat, through a funnel, on your way out.