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Let's talk red flags- what were/are yours?

41 replies

Perfectlyimperfectineveryway · 14/03/2019 00:14

I'm restapling in my mind the red flags I stupidly chose to ignore in my previous relationship

  • elaborate made up life (house owner, car owner, good job etc) which were unbelievable but ignored it.
  • jealous to massive extent
  • controlling
  • disliking all my friends
  • commenting on my weight (9stone )
  • making a comment when I wore nice stuff or wearing make up
  • wasn't allowed to look out the window
  • very pushy sexually
  • manipulation
  • moving himself in very quick
  • declaring love

Just want to make them clear in my head

OP posts:
Sally2791 · 14/03/2019 14:01

These are all so resonant with me as well,thank you OP for starting this one. I keep thinking of more now.
Bonkers relationship with his mother, she babied him.
He bought me presents very early on that I specifically said that I did not want.
Threatened to kill my pet if I wouldn't do as I was told

Moanymoaner123 · 14/03/2019 14:06

One of the earliest and most obvious ones that I ignored was right at the beginning of my last relationship. I got up early and made him scrambled eggs with smoked salmon for breakfast, he raged at me and tipped it straight in the bin because I hadn't mixed the eggs enough and there was some white still visible and 'how was he supposed to eat that muck'. His housemate ended up comforting me while I sobbed. I stayed 5 more years and you can imagine the proliferation of red flags I ignored in that time. Never again!

FineWordsForAPorcupine · 14/03/2019 14:07

I've said this before, but my first red flag - way before anything else - was when I started "editing" what I told my friends about his behaviour . I told myself that they would get the wrong idea about him and jump to conclusions, but in reality they would have got exactly the right idea about him.

ChristmasFluff · 14/03/2019 16:01

I think the last couple of comments say it all - you can have lists of all the red flags in the world, but they are no good if you are going to explain them away.

Just reading the original list - it's hardly anyone's idea of a perfect partner. Yet we tolerated that crap. We explained it away. They were damaged, depressed, 'perhaps on the spectrum'. We told ourselves, 'they are so lovely the rest of the time'. Anything to allow us to excuse the behaviour and ignore our gut and brain that would both be telling us this wasn't right.

Healing is about healing the parts of us that make us vulnerable to doing this - because otherwise, we can know all the signs and yet STILL not ditch the next toxic person when we should.

Sally2791 · 14/03/2019 16:51

Christmasfluff- therein lies the problem. I don't know how to do this,and I'm scared of getting together with another one

pudding21 · 14/03/2019 17:40

Way back in 1995 when I met my ex as a 17 year old, the term red flags didn't exsist and I didnt have a real clue about what a good relationship should look like. For years I just thought his behaviour was normal or was something I had done to deserve it.

The biggest red flag from night one was he walked me to a friends house (happened to be male) because my sister was there. He went on and on about that night for the whole relationship that he "left me to go to another blokes house". He meant it, it grated on him from day 1 I had male friends.

He would call me at Uni, and if I wasnt there write me letters about how its difficult for him to see me living my life etc (he was a bit older than me). He would sometimes just show up even thoguh we hadnt arranged for him too (was a 90 minute drive). I still have the letters, I thought he was just madly in love with me, I didnt really consider it jealous and manipulating. Reading them back now I see it in a different way.

He flared for no reason. Once he threw toast at me when I was at Uni because i didnt butter it in all four corners. Seriously I should have bailed then, if anyone did that to me now as a 40 year old, I would never speak to them again. He was like a toddler having a tantrum. A few years ago he shouted and screamed at me while trying to jumpo start our car. Cos it was all my fault of course.

Having a very dysfunctional realtionship with a cold and sour faced mother. Basically he is her in male form.

Not developing any friendships past university years.

Isolating himself as the years went on. Quizzing me if I went out. He would never have stopped me going out aone, but if I didnt tell him enough I was hiding something, if I told him what he thought was too much, I was rubbing in how good the night was, and he got pissed off because he wasnt involved in it.

I think the biggest thing was fearing being honest, because he would always find something to question or go on about. In the end I couldnt be arsed to go oout as much because of the next day.

Sulking and moody in the mornings particularly. Like he was the only one who had to work.Worsening alcohol dependency.

Questioning what I had done all day if I had been off, I could never feel like I could just sit around and do nothing all day, because if he'd been working (even thoguht I worked full time but did 13 hours shifts so had days off) he would get pissed off.

I look at it now and think why did I let it go on for 21 years, although we did have fun at times and I did love him. I dont regret our relationship as we have two gorgeous kids, but he is even more difficult now, and co parenting with him is a nightmare at times!

HerrenaHarridan · 14/03/2019 17:54

Only owning underwear bought by their mum—— an absolutely hard limit for me 😆

String of ‘psycho’ exes

Talking over me

Vie8126 · 15/03/2019 06:48

These all ring so many bells. I'm still stuck living with mine trying to get out...but mine would be

Calling my time as a single parent 'the slut year's'

Encouraging me that my fave sport and activity was dangerous and I should stop for my own safety.

We don't have money for nails or hairdresser appointments so I gave up on nails and barely get my hair done once a year as he always refuses.

Making me change my extremely well paid job to one with a HUGE pay cut 'You don't need to be the main earner anymore it's better you are just happy' but expecting me to still pay all the bills despite him having a well paid job.

Lying about money how much and where it's gone.

Abusive ex that had a drug problem and stopped him seeing his daughter. Divorce papers state how he was abusive physically and mentally to her.

Walking on eggshells and having to lie over stupid stuff.

Saying he is old fashioned and has old fashioned values to do f all in the house and it to all fall to me.

Giving up work for stupid reasons 'the drive is too long/I don't get on with the boss' etc

Having had this amazing life full of riches which he gave up for me Hmm

Talking things round in circles so I'm not sure what is going on, sulking and withdrawing from me until I apologise for something that was his fault.

When he goes off on one it's my fault and saying look what you made me do

The end of our rental agreement cannot come quick enough!!!

user1493413286 · 15/03/2019 06:54

Calling his ex’s names
Making comments about women being after money
Making comments about women faking sexual assault allegations
Having ex’s that just up and left (never his fault obviously)
Nothing that has gone wrong in his life is ever his fault
Calling himself a nice guy and saying no one will ever treat you better. Also telling stories about when he was a nice guy. A genuinely nice guy will never tell you he is one as he doesnt need to convince anyone and will recognise he’s not perfect

CandyCreeper · 15/03/2019 06:57

sad stories how hard done they were
everything is always someone elses fault

^^ this for sure.

Nothavingfunrightnow · 18/03/2019 14:32

No one has experienced certain hardships like they have.

He's the black sheep of the family and has bad relationships with most or all of his family.

Gets you to trust him too quickly (my red flag bearer sent me a photo of his payslip to prove who he was and gave me keys to his flat within about 3 weeks of having met him).

NowWhat19 · 18/03/2019 14:48

Making hurtful ‘jokes’ or raising his hand as if to slap me again as a joke

Saying men should cheat if their partner isn’t in good physical shape or attractive enough

Unhealthy family relationship.

Speaks over me constantly.

There’s so much more!

shallichangemyname · 18/03/2019 14:54

My two biggest are the love bombing and the "mad" or vindictive exes who are making things up about him
And a third - I've just been ticking over in the last year, now I've met you I'm really motivated to do x, y, z....
Dominant personality, taking everything over
Coming over to your place all the time, you rarely/never go to his

troubleswillbeoutofsight · 18/03/2019 15:04

Any showing of extreme and / or unstable emotions
I would, in future, run a bloody mile, don't need that sort of drama in my life

MikeUniformMike · 18/03/2019 16:48

Rages for no apparent reason

Dontsayyouloveme · 19/03/2019 17:39

From a recent encounter :

My picture as his wallpaper on his phone after one date!

Saying he couldn’t wait over two years to move in with me, after I alluded to the fact I was far from ready to live with anyone again for at least..., ooo. 2 years! He followed that gem with ‘Instead of finding somewhere to rent, I may as well stay at my parents then and just move in with you’

Texting after date number two (and last date) suggesting we go on holiday in August with our children as we’d have been together 7 months then!

Bye bye 👋🏼

Pre therapy, I’d have been flattered by all the above! Scary!

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