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Dating/ man advice

43 replies

Charlie09 · 12/03/2019 21:55

Hi I wanted everyone’s advice on something.
We all know how hard it is trying to date whilst being a single mum. I’ve been on a few dates where I just felt no chemistry. Finally went on a date with someone I had met online. We had talked on/ off and finally exchanged numbers and talked on WhatsApp. He was flirty but not consistent.. is not always responding straight away or a day or so. Finally we talked some more and he wanted to meet up. We agreed that Saturday and it came to Thursday and I asked if we were still meeting up, no response until Saturday where he messaged ignoring my previous message. I said if he didn’t want to meet up he could just say. He then asked to call me, we talked for 20 minutes and then he was more flirty saying he liked my voice and we messaged lots and the next day spoke for almost two hours. We flirted over text and he said he wanted to meet. We both messaged and he would say morning gorgeous and good night etc. He then said I gave him butterflies which is strange as we hadn’t even met etc. We met on the Tuesday and the chemistry was crazy. He said he liked me and he was cute and joked about and said nice things but not ott. I asked his usual type and he said brunette (I’m blonde) but said that’s obviously never worked out before. We kissed and he said he didn’t want to talk to anyone else now and I was going nowhere and hasn’t felt that way in a while etc. He said he couldn’t wait to meet again so we agreed that Thursday.
He carried on messaging and being flirty. On wed I asked about the cinema the next day and he joked ‘of we could skip the cinema’ and I said it would be nice to go and he said ok. Then Thursday he messaged like normal in the morning. At lunch I got a long message saying he was tired and an hour later cancelling (but not saying another date to change too).
I said I got the impression he’d cancel and he said not to ‘say it like that’ I said I wasn’t being mean and just knew he would. He then rang me that evening and messaged me throughout the night. Then gradually his messages were more spaced out so I asked him after a week of anything was wrong as things seemed to change as he’s not so chatty, he said nothings changed and still likes me. But still wasn’t asking to see me?
I had tried to make plans but he was busy.
He then said I could leave it with him if I wanted and he’s just rubbish at responding like before we met. I said if he wanted to meet again I’d like that but up to him. He didn’t message back but the next day agreed to meet that Saturday, anyways.. long story shirt he cancelled as he was poorly! Stopped with the flirting. Cut down any attempts at flirting etc. Then after the Saturday cancellation I messaged him the following Tuesday and said I obviously get he doesn’t want to meet again but would be nice to stay friends. He said ‘being friends would be njce’. I’ve sent the one or two friendly text with a one word reply until last message was unanswered. (I only text twice over space of two weeks since we said we would be friends),

Thing is.. why did he say all that stuff when we met? I felt the chemistry and the way he looked at me and felt like we had a good connection and we could talk on the phone etc and he never seemed like he was Percy in texts (as in after one thing?) I had tried to get out of him why he changed his behaviour but would never say? We live an hour apart so maybe it’s too much effort? Maybe he has 5 women on the go? It’s just annoying as I feel I have no answers and I really liked him and feel it’s hard finding that connection with someone. He got defensive and said he wasn’t a player when I had only asked if there was anything going on (as in his life, just to see if his mind was preoccupied).
Any ideas of what I might have said or done or why he pulled back so quickly after it felt so intense and exciting?

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lifegoes · 13/03/2019 20:45

Is he married?

Sounds like a typical player, telling you everything you want to hear so he can have sex.

I would honestly move on

Charlie09 · 13/03/2019 21:17

No he was single.

I have moved on and deleted his number. Was just a Shame really. Wish this dating stuff was easier!!

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Azzizam · 13/03/2019 21:30

I've been through this and invariably they pop up again later. At least you didn't dtd and then get ghosted. That is a head fuck of head fucks.

Foolishly I went back for more only to be ghosted a second time. A very painful experience which truly damaged my self esteem.
It's a really bitter pill to take to find out you have been played and I think we analyse it to see if we can minimise the unpalatable truth. It's especially difficult when the chemistry is full on. 😑

Azzizam · 13/03/2019 21:38

PS. I echo you join the dating thread.

Sunshineandflipflops · 13/03/2019 21:51

This kind of behaviour is the reason I have given up on OLD. Men (and I’m sure some women too) seem to find it so easy to come on strong then just disappear or lose interest but don’t have the decency to tell you so you’re left hanging on and/or wondering.
My self esteem was starting to take a real battering from it all and the time I was spending swiping/messaging was just not worth it at all. I am feeling better already and would rather be single than being let down or disappointed constantly!

Charlie09 · 13/03/2019 21:52

Trying to find someone normal appears to be impossible!! 😫

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wishywashy6 · 14/03/2019 07:17

Agree with joining the dating thread on here - it really helped me when I was using OLD

NameChangeNugget · 14/03/2019 07:53

Trying to find someone normal appears to be impossible

I think you need to look how you frame things too. It’s not trying to find someone normal, it’s trying to find someone who wants the same things as you. What the guy wanted (and it was only one date) is his normal per se.
We’re all different

Onemansoapopera · 14/03/2019 16:26

Agree with @namechangenugget Really important not to start pulling people down just because they didn't fancy us all, or feel enough of a spark, or meeting of minds or whatever. Rejection happens. We have to be able to accept it without trying to take blame/find fault. Emotional intelligence and all that.

Charlie09 · 15/03/2019 19:15

You seem defensive without seeing both sides?! I’ve been on dates and not fancied someone but I’ve been emotionally intelligent enough to tell them! My issue was being told things which I don’t believe were true or if they were then I wanted an understanding of his actions. No one was pulling anyone down! If he wanted just sex.. then yes, that’s that and he should have told me and I wouldn’t have been left confused! . but people giving me their advice that that’s clearly what was happening is not pulling him down! I think emotional intelligence is being honest about what you’re feeling and want so that the other person can decide for themselves if that’s for them or not. I do not agree with someone saying everything you want to hear and then going cold for no reason. Be straight up about how you feel and then this whole dating thing would be a lot easier for everyone!! Men get annoyed with women doing the same thing!
I thought it would be obvious to tell if someone’s not being honest but the advice I asked for was because I genuinely felt we had a good connection and I liked him and believed him and thought he was honest and it’s not always easy to see when you’re in the situation so getting an outside perspective always helps to help understand things when you can’t ☺️

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Strugglingwithlife99 · 15/03/2019 20:29

I had to reply! Tonight I'm sat here after being in a similar situation and date has cancelled. About a month ago I got chatting to someone online and we decided to meet. Over a month and it's not happened!
We had a date planned and I emailed him that morning to confirm, he didn't answer. Emailed later to say he'd been in a fight and arrested! Ok benefit of the doubt.
Next date he goes down with a virus. I do know it was true as he sent photos and being at home chatted on and off all day. So said when better we'd go out. He was ill for 2weeks.

So tonight we'd planned a date and two days ago he disappeared. Emailed yesterday saying he'd been in hospital after passing out on site. This time I don't know if i believe him. We've messaged today but he's a bit distant.

He won't give me a phone number. We both knew it was probably just sex but he then messaged me day and night.

I'm guessing he's either had a better offer or he is being genuine. I'm always attracted to the good looking bad boy lol but have backed off and decided enough is enough. We meet or no more chat.

I'm seriously wondering if he has a wife or girlfriend that works nights as sometimes he messages others disappears!

Oh the joys of dating 😂 i think i should write a book. But OP for your own sanity move on!

BumbleBeee69 · 15/03/2019 21:33

you're doing the right thing OP.. Flowers

Onemansoapopera · 16/03/2019 09:53

But emotional intelligence is surely realising that someone coming in with massive promises and platitudes straight away isn't thinking straight? So emotional intelligence is recognising that and not buying into it too heavily too.

rededucator · 16/03/2019 10:24

Struggling he has a OH. No one is so busy they take a month to seal a date. If they were they wouldn't be on a dating site. Arrested on a flight one day, 2 week virus the next, hospitalized and unable to message you? It sounds like a very bad script of a made for TV movie.

Charlie09 · 16/03/2019 13:22

Struggling... oh no 😕 this is what I mean.. getting an outside lersepective it’s a lot easier to see. He’s definietly in a relationship and definietly lying. I’d do what I’ve done and cut him off. To not give you his number too? You’ve not met him so I would give up and move on. He’s showing no respect at all. Go back online and keep going (like I am!).

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Charlie09 · 16/03/2019 13:25

Onemansoapopera .. exactly .. so I was asking for advice as to why he did that. You’ve just said that he wasn’t thinking straight.. so what was he thinking and why?!
I did realise immediately which is why I pulled him up on it to find out why and why I’ve now not messaged and deleted his number. This only went in for a few weeks 😆

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ooItsAoBeautifulDayNow · 16/03/2019 13:54

@Strugglingwithlife99 Sorry, you've spent a month trying to confirm a date with a man whose FIRST reason for disappearing was that he got arrested for fighting?! And you continued to keep trying to rearrange? Jesus wept. Raise the bar! A patently dangerous dickhead is pushes the limit of a "bad boy", even if you're looking for a FWB situation. I don't know you but I'm sure as hell you can do better than him!

Latto · 16/03/2019 19:43

All part of the OLD fun. I gave up on it as others have stated . They'd give lord lucan a run for his money in the disapears without trace farce, i,m too old to play games. Trying real life at the moment.

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