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Guilt after leaving abusive relationship - does it go away?

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wikowiko · 12/03/2019 20:14

I've lurked on mumsnet for years, kidding myself that my husband was nothing like the abusive partners I read about, that when he shouted and insulted and lashed out it was my fault and if I could just fix xyz then it wouldn't happen again.... and so on and so forth... Anyway the violence got much worse since the birth of our baby four months ago and two weeks ago he grabbed my throat and strangled me while I had the baby at my breast. I realised that I couldn't bring up a child in that environment, called a friend and left. Reported to the police and going to court this week for urgent measures regarding custody (I'm not in the UK so the procedure might sound a bit foreign). I have somewhere to stay with the baby for a couple of months until I find somewhere permanent, money and a good lawyer, so my situation is really not as drastic as many you read about on here.

I have told lots of people, trying to get it out in the open, and everyone has been great. In my head I know I'm doing the right thing, the only thing I can do for my child, but yet I feel so guilty. Does this go away eventually? I've had a couple of run-ins with husband where he's been in tears and he left me a sobbing voicemail (shouldn't have listened but thought it might be someone else) and the sound is haunting me, even though I know I've cried just as much over the years and he would claim my tears were an attempt at emotional blackmail. I see couples with babies out and about and I feel sad that we aren't a happy family. Even though I know in my head we were never going to be, I still feel guilty for being the one to put an end to that possibility. I still imagine having conversations with him, telling him about my day (I wanted to tell him about riding in a police car, which is absurd since the reason I was in the police car was because I was reporting him) or I see a news item I think he should know about. Chatting to my friends I still say 'we did this' or 'we went to xxx'.

The other guilt I feel is at bringing a baby into the world with this man as her father. He had only been violent a few times before baby was born but there were lots of arguments which he always managed to make my fault, and I think I was selfish, kidding myself that a child would make things better. I love my daughter so much, and her smiles are the only reason I don't spend every day in floods of tears, but he is always going to be her father and I hope i can do enough to protect her.

People who've been in my situation before - did you feel like this and did it change? I feel like I should be angry at him for attacking me and for the years of abuse but I'm not. I'm seeing a psychiatrist this week as well, which I hope will help.

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frustratedwineaholic · 12/03/2019 22:38

Nothing very useful to say OP but I’m in a vaguely similar situation. Also trying to feel angry rather than guilty.

I think it’s because they have conditioned us to always placate them.

I hope you get some good advice soon, I wouldn’t have left my abusive ex without MN!

Flowers
Canthearthroughmyglasses · 12/03/2019 22:45

The guilt goes away once you get to the anger stage. You are grieving and yes I was like you, feeling guilty and incredibly sad for my son who did nothing wrong. I am glad I left though as my ex then was really abusive, cheated and was generally very contring. I raised my son on my own along with my older daughter and they are great individuals today, 20 plus years on. You will be fine too. You did the right thing. Don’t doubt that now.

wikowiko · 13/03/2019 14:13

Thanks. Discussing contact with the lawyers now. Did your violent exes maintain a relationship with their kids after you split up? Did it work out? Did things become civil?

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redastherose · 13/03/2019 14:25

I never suffered violence but spent way too many years married to and in a relationship with an emotionally/financially abusive man. It doesn't start out like that and it really is like the boiled frog. It happens a bit at a time and each time because they tell you its your fault you try harder not to do whatever it was that triggers them. I have children and I know now that staying with him because I thought it was in their best interests was the wrong thing to do. You got out and your little girl will be better off away from a violent man.

Please remember this isn't your fault, you didn't do this. He is the one who ruined your relationship and took that family life away from your DC. Do not blame yourself!

asleepinperfectbluebuildings · 13/03/2019 15:19

It definitely goes away. It's strange how we feel guilt upon leaving somebody who has treated us so badly, but the guilt is forced upon us by them as a tactic to make us stay.

2 days ago it was one year since I left an abusive relationship. I don't have any children so I didn't face the same struggles child-wise as you have, but I am so sorry for what you went through, and the strength you showed to protect your daughter is brilliant. It may not feel that way at the minute, but I assure you, in time you will stop feeling the guilt and you will be thankful you left when you did. You've done your daughter and yourself a great service, you are free to begin the rest of your life now and bring your daughter up surrounded with love and kindness, not fearing her bully of a father.

For days I cried and I was so so close to going back, because I felt horrendous about leaving. I couldn't understand it, because when I packed my suitcase and walked away from that house I thought "I am free." And the guilt and anxiety I was feeling was so at odds with that. As redastherose said, it definitely is the boiled frog. Bit by bit they break you down, pushing boundaries, until you are so low and have no fight left. Your daughter will grow up knowing she has a mother that is strong and independent and loves her very much and I wish you both the absolute best for your futures. Flowers

asleepinperfectbluebuildings · 13/03/2019 15:21

Also same as @frustratedwineaholic posting on Mumsnet for the first time about my abusive ex and reading all the support and all the replies encouraging me and telling me I wasn't going mental was just what I needed to find the strength and courage to leave and stick it out

wikowiko · 13/03/2019 19:11

Thanks everyone. I know I can't go back, despite his begging and pleading and promises. I've told lots of people in real life so they'll tie me down if necessary. Smile
But I can't write him out of my life completely because unfortunately he has the right to see his daughter and I have to facilitate that. I need to find coping strategies for that.
Saw a psychiatrist today, she was great. Feeling really drained which I suppose is normal.

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wikowiko · 23/04/2019 19:25

I don't know if it's bad form to bump my own thread but just to say I am DEFINITELY over the guilt - it was like someone flipped a switch and I suddenly started seeing all his tears and begging and pleading for the bullshit it is.

I'm actually feeling better than I have in years, and everyone who knows me says it shows. It's very telling that I'm finding it easy being on my own with the baby, since I no longer have anyone demanding the impossible from me housework-wise at the same time, or insulting me and calling me lazy. I can't remember the last time I cried, whereas while I was with him I'd be in tears at least weekly after some argument or another. Nobody has punched me, grabbed me round the throat or stuck their face in mine aggressively. Nobody has threatened to kill me or send me to work with a black eye, either. I'm almost feeling guilty about feeling so good as I'm signed off work sick at the moment and I feel like a bit of a malingerer!

He's still doing the begging, pleading routine. I have to see him once a week when he has the baby, but I always have someone with me. Going back to court soon for a permanent agreement and my lawyer is pushing for supervised contact as he hasn't kept up his end of the bargain - he hasn't started any therapy and he makes handovers difficult with all his 'why won't you sit down and talk to me?' crap, even with the baby crying in his arms. That's what made me realise that he doesn't actually care about her, that she would not lose out if she never saw him again.

I read the thread on the effects on children of growing up with DV and it made me feel so positive about my decision and how I'm protecting her. I can still remember the fright she used to get when he screamed at me, and how he made me put her down when she was upset so he could have a go at me or make me do something for him.

I am so glad I did this and I really hope someone in an abusive relationship reads this and gets out - it really is worth it. I feel like a weight has been lifted off me and am enjoying life, even despite the stress of going to court and fear about my child's future with him as a father. It's only been a couple of months and I feel like a different person!

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RamblinRosie · 24/04/2019 00:11

You’ve done the right thing!

Preggosaurus9 · 24/04/2019 00:22

Brilliant news! You got this.

prawnsword · 24/04/2019 00:36

Am so sorry this happened to you. You are incredibly brave & are an amazing role model for your little one. It’s only been 2 weeks since this event occurred & you sound so self aware & strong even though it was only 14 days ago. Please give yourself a break & permission to feel like shit.

He strangled you, so statistically he is much more likely to one day murder you in a fit of rage. I think before we find ourselves victims of Domestic Violence it’s so easy from the outside assuming our feelings of love, caring, wanting to reconcile will disappear instantly, with the first sign of physical violence. In my experience still feel love for my abuser & guilt for abandoning him & giving up on him. Get very angry at my heart for still feeling this way, but to me these residual feelings just show our hearts were in the right place, even if theirs weren’t & will never be. I loved honestly & openly. While they destroyed that love, it takes time for the heart to heal & catch up with what your mind knows to be the right way forward. After everything you’ve been through, how could you feel all better after only a fortnight? While juggling a baby, having to sort out custody, a new home?

It’s great you have support & people to lean on. You sound so switched on & in 6-12 months I bet you will be in a totally different place to now 💗

wikowiko · 24/04/2019 07:36

It's been two months. Don't worry, after 2 weeks I was quite rightly a wreck! In fact my first message on this thread was three weeks after leaving and I was feeling sad and guilty...

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lilmisssausage12 · 24/04/2019 07:55

Unfortunately when we are in those relationships. We love them & make excuses for them and hope it will never happen again.
Happy for you that it's over & you can try to move on with your life.
Bringing a child in to the world is a gift, carry on loving her and try not to worry about if it was right or wrong. You have your beautiful child and a life free of abuse now.

Mentally I have found it a struggle to get over being mentally and physically abused and it takes time. I saw my ex three times this weekend with his new girlfriend & baby and I absolutely felt nothing but sorry for her that he's doing the same to her. It's taken 7 years but I got there in the end.

Carry on loving your child & being happy she is here.

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