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A plea for help from a helpless father. Any advice would be welcome.

17 replies

HelplessFather · 10/03/2019 19:01

Hey there everyone, this is my first and likely last post on Mumsnet. If this isn’t appropriate, or I have used the wrong section of the Forum, please move my post to the correct location.

Firstly, allow me to introduce myself. I’m a 29 year-old father with a 5-year old Son. My Son is my absolute everything. I have previously worked as a SEN Teacher in a school, I now work for a Global Craft Company selling children’s craft products, as well as adult craft products. I have previously suffered from Manic Depression in my teens, due to the weight of expectation upon me through my childhood. I feel myself slowly slipping back into this state of mind and for my own sanity, I needed somewhere to air my thoughts.

Why Mumsnet? Well, considering my mother is my best friend, my rock and my hero, I figured other mothers who may have had their children in similar situations, may be able to help. My family are keeping me together, but their clouded judgement and current state of anger has brought me here, for hopefully some middle-ground.
I find myself in a situation which is unbearable.

Please grab a brew because this may take some time to read through & digest.

When my Son was born, his mother and I were happily together. We got on and we were great. Unfortunately, skip forward a year & 6 months and I find myself in a situation where she has had an affair with a man. This was the third time she had cheated on me, and for me that was enough. During this time I was working in a School, specifically teaching children with autism, ADHD and other special needs. Her anger set in, and she essentially prevented me from seeing my Son.

I didn’t see him for 6 months, and after a rather short court case, after plenty of false accusations made against myself (to the point the school had to step in and write to the courts as part of my defence), the courts granted me access to my Son. Throughout the entire process, I pleaded that we try mediation (she didn’t want to), that we come to a mutual agreement for the sake of our Son. She wasn’t having it. Anyways, the court through her allegations out as nothing more than unequivocal lies to stall and prevent me seeing my Son.

Fast forward three months and she messages me. “Hey sorry for all the hassle through the courts, do you want to meet up and we can sit down and sort this out?” This is what I’d been asking for, for almost a year. For us to sit down and do what’s best for our Son. Being a Teacher who’d dealt with children on a 1-2-1 case who were coming from broken homes where social services etc. were involved, I never ever wanted us to reach that point. There was no need to. She wasn’t a danger to my Son, she was a decent enough person. She just couldn’t help but allow her eyes to wander. I said throughout the entire court case that I have no reservations about her ability as a parent, or her as a person, just that we weren’t right for each other.

So we finally reach a mutual agreement for the best interest of our Son. Fantastic. She finds a new partner, I stay single for a while and we all move on. I pick him up at the weekends from her house, we have a chat every now & again, everything is great for our Son. The one day, out of the blue she tells me she still loves me and wants to be with me. I don’t feel the same (she put me through utter hell with the courts) so I respectfully decline (this is whilst she is still with her partner).

Fast forward three years (this is where it starts to get important, I hope you’re still reading). I meet an amazing woman and I finally get myself into a relationship. My Son’s mother finds out and doesn’t take it too well. She sends me messages saying how she’s going to leave her kids with me/suggesting to take her own life because she can’t cope without me. This was literally out of the blue. I, of course worried about her mental health tell her it’ll all be ok/she’s a great mum and that she’s in a decent relationship with a decent guy. Anyways, she splits up with the guy and begs for me to come back. Again, I decline. She tells me how she can’t have me loving anyone else and moving on. A couple of the weekends I’m supposed to have my Son, he doesn’t come around. “He’s ill” or “he’s had a headache so you won’t be able to do much with him”. Me being rather laid back, just get on with it. Raising this with the court terrifies me as I don’t want to go back to court, I don’t want to put my Son, who’s now a bit more older through all of this which almost destroyed me. So I put up with random weekends of him not coming around. She then moves on with another guy.

Now, we’re finally here. Last week I received a phone call out of the blue from the local police department during my lunch break. “Hi there, I believe you’re XYZ’s Dad?” “Yes, that’s correct”. Well I’ve just spoken with his social worker and I’m informing you that we’re currently investigating him for possible sexual abuse” “From who?” “You.” I of course tell them that this is utterly ridiculous and want to know where the allegations have come from. “Now whilst your Son has not disclosed anything to us, his mother has, which we cannot go into detail of.” All of a sudden I burst into tears, I feel sick in my mouth, and my heartbeat reaches critical levels. My entire head goes off, and I can’t stop it. I obviously comply with the officers request (I was supposed to have him this weekend but as these allegations have been made he stated I’m not allowed him). I explain I’ll help in any way possible and that these allegations are completely falsified. I comply with everything, put the phone down, walk back into my workplace and burst into tears.

I’m broken, absolutely broken. I get sent home from work as I’m all over the place. This was Thursday. It’s not Sunday and I’m still having fits of tears, uncontrollable tears. I’m due back into work tomorrow, but I know they’ll all be asking how my weekend with my Son was. I’m literally crying right now at the prospect of that question. My Son doesn’t deserve this. My Son is being tested next week to see if they find anything. They won’t. But he’ll ask why he wasn’t at Daddy’s this weekend. He’ll wonder why, after we spoke only on the Tuesday and I promised to take him swimming and to crazy golf, why his Daddy wasn’t there.

I have a meeting with my solicitor on Wednesday, but I don’t want to make any rash decisions. From where I’m stood, I’ve always got on with his mother for his sake, however this has crossed the line. As far as I’m concerned his mother is mentally abusing him. She has mentally abused me and I’ve put up with it for the sake of his wellbeing. But now his wellbeing is in jeopardy because of his jealous, bitter mother. My head is understandably all over the place. To hear that they’re checking to see if I’d do something so despicable has devastated me. She has previously filmed him swearing and then on the video asked “who told you that word?” “Daddy”. She’s trying to get him diagnosed with anxiety and is blaming me for it (I have several messages from her claiming he’s suffering with anxiety whenever he comes back from my house). I think she’s been doing all of this, planning this all along to then make this allegation as the breaking point.

But this is me thinking in a state of mania, hence why I’m here. Any other perspective to all of this is more than welcome. Any advice you can offer would be truly grateful. I’m a completely broken parent who wants the best for the most important person in his life. I’m here pleading for help, any help you can offer. My family are angry/biased, so their advice I’m taking with a pinch of salt.

I’ll point out I may have missed some points out, so if you have any questions, please let me know. My head is all over the place at the moment so I’m finding it hard to concentrate. Doing this has focused me somewhat. Thank you for taking your time to read this, again, any advice would be more than welcome. I wouldn’t wish what I’m going through on anyone. I’m completely broken. I'll be checking back daily to see if anyone has any advice, apologies if it takes me a while to reply.

Best regards and have a wonderful week ahead.

OP posts:
VixenSixen · 10/03/2019 19:07

I did not want to read and run and I hope someone is along soon with some good advice for you.... I'm really sorry for all that you are going through and I hope you get some support x

runwithme · 10/03/2019 19:15

I've got no advice other than to speak to a solicitor. The police will do their investigation and you'll be ok but you need legal arrangements in place.
All the best.

Aridane · 10/03/2019 19:18

You are doing right to get a solicitor

Maybe also see youtGP to mitigate the risk of a bipolar relapse?

Sounds utterly awful

Zofloramummy · 10/03/2019 19:24

First of all I’m glad you are seeing a solicitor. Secondly you need to look after yourself, GP appointment ASAP.
Next look at phone lines for mental health support, they can’t do anything about the situation but they can listen.
If you think being on work will be helpful for you then go in, if you are in no fit state then ring in sick until you see the GP.
Is your girlfriend being supportive? Try and stay away from alcohol, drink lots and nibble food you can. You are most likely in a state of shock.
Co operate fully the police. Take evidence of any text messages, emails from your ex begging you to come to back to her.
I’m sorry to say it probably won’t be sorted quickly but you need to stay strong.

thefirst48 · 10/03/2019 19:26

Zolflora has some great advice. You know you've done nothing wrong and once your cleared of any wrong doing I would try and go for full custody of your son. This woman needs serious help!

Ineedachange · 10/03/2019 19:55

I'm am sorry I can't help either, and I have nothing to add. I just feel so desperately sorry for you, your family's reaction is entirely understandable. I really, really hope that you get the help you need.

Bumping this for you x

YourSarcasmIsDripping · 10/03/2019 20:18

You need to see your GP so you are supported and looked after while dealing with this.

You definitely need legal advice,for the current accusation and the future legal battle. Because you do need to take this back to court for your son's sake.

Cooperate fully with the police

HelplessFather · 10/03/2019 20:21

Thank you for all the kind messages of the support. I guess I posted here for a couple of reasons as mentioned before. I basically want to make sure I'm doing the right thing & I just wanted to get this all of my chest. I'm not one of these who post their life stories on social media (Facebook etc.) as that will only make matters worse.

I fortunately don't drink/I'd never dream of touching drugs or smoking and my girlfriend has been a rock. It's been hard for her though as with my mental health deteriorating I've gone into a complete shell. With biploar/manic depression, I react by shutting myself off. I know I shouldn't but I can't help it.

You're right about being in a complete and total state of shock, only 2 days prior we were talking on the phone both the mother and my Son about what I was going to do this weekend with him. Then boom, my world gets flipped.

I just don't understand why someone would put someone else through such a horrible thing, when they've done nothing wrong. I know and understand you're only hearing my side of the story, but I'm not a bad person. I'm just completely devastated by all of this.

Again, thank you for the advice, I've started writing notes to show the solicitor, hopefully everything will turn out ok. Not just for me, but for my innocent little boy who's mixed up in all of this unnesessary nonsense.

Thank you.

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YourSarcasmIsDripping · 10/03/2019 20:29

Also check with your solicitor if you can find out wether SS is involved due to this allegation or have been involved before this. If they've had concerns for a while regarding you or her is very important to know.

slipperywhensparticus · 10/03/2019 20:35

Will you be allowed to work because of the allegation?

JanetandJohn500 · 10/03/2019 20:42

Tell your HT. you probably won't be able to work while it's sorted out. Although it's hard, it's best to be upfront with work now - you don't need to lose your career over it.
Your HT will take advice from the LADO and act accordingly. They won't be judging you but will be acting in the best interests of you and the pupils.

AdaColeman · 10/03/2019 20:48

He sells knitting wool and paper, why would that be affected by the allegations?

JanetandJohn500 · 10/03/2019 20:48

Sorry, thought he said he worked in a special needs school Blush

HelplessFather · 10/03/2019 21:56

I told my TLeader the moment I got off the phone with the police, and in turn broke down in front of her. She was completely understanding and sent me home as I was in no fit state to work. She knows how utterly ridiculous these claims are and I'm due back in work tomorrow. She has even said my workplace will write a statement to support me in any way necessary - even if it's just a description about me. Hopefully now I've had 4 days to try and collect my thoughts, I'll be able to go back to work tomorrow. I'm just dreading being asked how my Son is, knowing now I won't see him for at least another 2 weeks (he is due his tests this Friday).

I will check how long SS have been involved and why, this is something new to me, but it wouldn't surprise me if she has been in touch with them for a while, to try and build some sort of relationship up with them to bring it to this. They have never been in contact with me prior to this and I'm waiting to hear from them. I'm not sure what I'm going to say. I know the mother has disclosed information, but until I know specifically what that is, I'm non-the-wiser.

I just guess I'll have to see how I get on. Thank you everyone again for the comments, it's helped more than an of you will ever know. Again, if anyone does have any advice it'd be more than welcome.

The way I see it:

  1. I need to wait to hear from SS to see what they say.
  2. Based on what SS say (hopefully they contact me before Wednesday) I will then relay this to my Solicitor.
  3. Meeting with the solicitor I will essentially tell them what I've told you.

My biggest problem is that I don't know how this ends. I don't know the end goal. Going for full custody would make sense, as I truly believe she will continue to manipulate him to try and hate me. Parent alienation is something I'm all too familiar with working in a school. It's my biggest worry at the moment that when I'm not seeing him, she's filling his head with allsorts.

For example my girlfriend doesn't come around anymore when he is here because the mother started making accusations about her and about me not spending quality time with him. We'd go to the zoo, or to local parks and play together. My partner has never once tried to control us or stop my Son from spending time with me, and he has my full attention when I'm with him - he is my absolute world. But because of the mother stating that he's feeling jealous and angry and upset that she's there (even though when he's here and she was here he would ask her to play with him and do arts & crafts with him). This sort of manipulation is totally horrible.

Sorry, I'm just getting it all out of the system as I know I need to/it's good for my mental health. Who'd have thought Mumsnet would be the place my brain finds calm.

Thanks again for all the feedback

OP posts:
nevernotstruggling · 10/03/2019 23:28

Hi there. I just want to add you can ask for all the details of ss involvement with your child. They don't have to show you the file but all the meetings you should be invited to.

Ss are not police - police can refuse to share allegations in an ongoing investigation though

Dieu · 10/03/2019 23:36

She is a fucking nutjob.

So sorry for your troubles, and hope it is all resolved soon. She has a history of bitterness towards you, which the police/courts will be able to see.

Stay strong Thanks

slipperywhensparticus · 11/03/2019 12:50

Ok this has happened in close family girl (strpchild) disclosed abuse ss got involved with the police case dropped due to lack of evidence (by police) at this point ss took over the case he was eventually allowed contact with his biological children unsupervised but all initial contact was supervised for a year or more he never saw the child who alleged the abuse again

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