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After the affair - trying to fix it or should i give up

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HowMuchMoreCanITake · 07/03/2019 12:57

From November last year till beginning of January my husband had an affair which I discovered on Christmas eve after looking through his phone. Initially he kept stringing me along telling me he didn’t know what to do until he eventually ended it with me just before New years. Essentially he left me for her, before he realised a few days later that he had made a mistake and spoke about trying again.

Since about the 15th January we have tried to get things back on track. He has been living at his dads and helping out with the kids a couple of nights a week and taking them over the weekend.

Since this though I keep finding out things – like he told me he hadn’t seen her or slept with her again since I found out on Christmas eve and I found out through looking through his phone again that this wasn’t the case. They were still speaking and sleeping together right up until he told me he wanted to try again.

We were really getting on since the beginning of this month and I really thought we would be able to work things out. Wehad been on the couples counselling waitlist since the start of December and finally had a couple of sessions and he asid he felt positive – he had told the woman he didn’t ever want to do this to me again.

Then I found out this weekend that he had been messaging some other girl on messanger that he wanted to shag her. HE kept asking for it over and over again. Begging basically. The same night he came round to my house and we had sex. I was so angry when I read it. He said it was only a laugh, wouldn’t have happened and he was drunk. To me not a good enough excuse!

The problem now is that finally he seems to have realised he actually wants to be with me and to fix our marriage – not sure how he decided that on the same night he decided he wanted to bed someone else too…but he does clearly want to try and fix something as kept asking me what he could do to fix things.

I’ve spoken to my councillor about this and she has advised that I read up on controlling and manipulative behaviour as she thinks that’s whats going on. In our first session together he was very defensive and came across as quite controlling – wants to suit himself all the time and to hell with anyone else.

After speaking to her and reading about this I am starting to realise this actually might be the case. I’ve thought about so many times where he acts like a spoilt child when he doesn’t get his way. He downplays nasty things he says by just telling me he was only joking or that I’m too sensitive. He always acts as if everyone is out to get him, he gets very defensive about anything, constantly rolls his eyes at me and basically makes me feel very stupid when I do ask for things.

With the latest girl he messaged I asked last night if he would share his iphone location with me which he said he would, but threw the biggest strop about it and shouted at me. Basically making me feel very stupid about it and saying aw you will never let me turn it off again.

He doesn’t seem to get this is just for an interim period whilst he can start to prove he is where is says he is, and not in bed at some random girls house. He has had so much free rein and I never thought to not trust him to not be where he said he would be before. I don’t want to have to check up on him forever, it would only be until I could believe and trust him again. But I also feel this defensiveness is ridiculous as to be honest, I wouldn’t care less if he knew where I was. Surely its important in a marriage to know where your partner is?

Previously he would tell me he hadn’t finished work so he could go to the pub after work whilst I had to deal with picking kids up and giving them tea and waiting for him to get home. He said it means I won’t be able to go for a pint anymore! Thinking about it he has had such little respect for me, going to the pub without telling me, having a secret life with people he doesn’t speak about.

I don’t really know what to do anymore. Is this controlling and manipulative behaviour? What do I do? I don’t know what I want either which doesn’t help. I love him, and up until about 3 weeks ago I would have done anything to keep us together. I am feeling now that I am seeing him in a new light and not sure I really like who he is anymore.

In all this its made me feel like the only reason he wanted to try with me is because the OW didn’t want him anymore and its taken a few months for him to realise he wanted to be with me, or that I was his only other option.

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Aquamarine1029 · 07/03/2019 13:16

Run for the hills. Your marriage is doomed, so you can either move on with your life now, or waste more precious time and have to go through this all over again anyway. He's a cheater, a liar, and he's manipulative. Let the OW have him. They deserve each other.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 07/03/2019 13:23

There is nothing to rescue and or save here. Better to be on your own than to be so badly accompanied. Your children will also thank you for doing so, this current model of a relationship they are being shown is not fit for purpose.

Would second your counsellor's advice to indeed read up on controlling and manipulative behaviour. "Why does he do that?" by Lundy Bancroft is a good read (do not let him see this book).

Be someone's priority also rather than an option.

Bluntness100 · 07/03/2019 13:23

Surely its important in a marriage to know where your partner is

This is twisting it. If you have to track your husband's movements it's over. He's cheated, he will again given the chance. Why are you clinging. On?

Musti · 07/03/2019 13:29

He's a cheat. Not just this other woman but someone else. Don't think twice about leaving him and never take him back.

HowMuchMoreCanITake · 07/03/2019 13:36

I am clinging. I wish i wasn't. But i love him, even after all of this. He was aways a good dad to the kids. IF we separate i'm going to have to move to the other side of the country to be closer to my family and i'll feel terrible for the boys to take them away from their dad.

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HowMuchMoreCanITake · 07/03/2019 13:39

Atilla - I've thought this so many times, i should have been the priority.

I need to work on me and realise I do deserve better than this. I came from an sexually and emotionally abusive relationship before this. I feel i've lowered the bar on what to expect from a marriage given its better than the relationship i had before.

I'm just sad knowing we did have such a happy marriage, we had a great relationship for so long, and i'm just so angry and sad that his actions over the last year have ruined it.

I just want my old life back to be honest.

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RomanyQueen1 · 07/03/2019 13:44

it sounds like ow finished it and so you were second choice.
Don't do this to yourself, time to move on and leave the cheat, he isn't going to change.
You will get your own life back when you kick him to touch, for good.

HowMuchMoreCanITake · 07/03/2019 13:48

Romany; thats what I'm scared of. He said they both made the decision to stop speaking, but I think it was more her. He hasn't seemed all that invested until the last few weeks. But then he went and messaged his friend that so I don't know anymore. Every time I thought we were getting somewhere something else comes out to prove to me I can't trust him again.

I just guess I don't really want to be something that made me happy to be over. I don't want to ruin my family. But I guess thats him that has done that, rather than me.

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HowMuchMoreCanITake · 07/03/2019 13:49

God I just sound desperate don't i? Willing to take back someone, that after I read what he has done, really isn't a very nice person. What is wrong with me?

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bagpiss · 07/03/2019 13:56

I bet he was at it long before November, that's only the time from which you started finding out.

Op he's a disgusting excuse for a husband and partner. You deserve much much better and so do your children. Thanks

TrySinging · 07/03/2019 13:58

You deserve so much better than this OP. He will destroy your self esteem and mental health. You're in the midst of it all just now and it's terrifying and so bloody unfair, I know, I've been there too. The longer this goes on though, the worse he will behave because you are essentially giving him permission to walk all over you. If you are able to let go and move on, I promise you, you will look back on this time and realise how glad you are that you took control of your life and got rid of him. A happier life awaits you. Thanks

HowMuchMoreCanITake · 07/03/2019 14:01

Well i'm wondering that now. I know the affair with that woman only started in November, but i have wondered in the past when he has had times when he stopped being interested in sex, he was distant. But honestly, he was never like how he was in November. He was horrendous to me in November, like he had changed into a new person.

I'm not sure. I feel like I'm still giving him excuses for doing the things he did. How do I move to the point where I can let go of him? Right now, I just want my old marriage back.

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HowMuchMoreCanITake · 07/03/2019 14:03

TrySinging - I'm so sorry you have been through this too. I don't understand why people do this to those they supposedly love. It is so promising to hear others have been through this and come out the other side stronger.

I just never thought this would happen to me. I wanted to be with him forever. :(

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HollowTalk · 07/03/2019 14:07

OK you wanted to be with him together but he's a different man, now. Whether you knew him properly or not doesn't matter - you do now. He's cheating, he's disrespectful, he gaslights you. I think you would be much better off away from him. If you stay with him, expect more of the same. Your self-respect would be on the floor by then.

FookMeFookYou · 07/03/2019 14:11

Read all what you've written back to yourself and imagine it's someone else. Now what do you think the answer is. Seriously what an utter douchebag. Don't give this idiot anymore of your time.

MzHz · 07/03/2019 14:16

You’re in love with the idea of him.

It’s not reality, it’s all imagined. The real him is a cheating lying predatory scum bag.

You’re worth way more than this!

HowMuchMoreCanITake · 07/03/2019 15:59

@hallowtalk I guess I kind of thought with the change in heart - more so over the last few days that maybe there was something worth saving as he was maybe starting to realise what he had done.

@fookmefookyou - I know. I've thought this way before and always would tell someone else in my position to go! But then I always said a cheat would be straight out the door previously too.

@MzHz - I think I do still love him. I think fondly on a lot of moments we had together. I honestly do. But also think you could be right as I am worth so much more. I deserve to have someone love me and put me first. Not put me and our children behind trips to the pub and gambling!

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Ragnarhairybreetches · 07/03/2019 16:57

He's not trying, he's doing the bare minimum to keep in with you. You ARE better than this, don't let your boys grow up learning that this is how you treat a partner. He is a liar and a cheat, get out and raise lovely men.

2019willbegreat · 07/03/2019 17:08

@Howmuchmore....I'm sorry this is happening to you. But I guarantee if you stay with this creep, you will have to take much much much more shit. It will destroy your self esteem and basically your life too.

My situation is not as "bad" as yours but there are similarities. Separating the first time was the hardest thing ive ever done (we also tried again but the damage was done). We are now over for good after 23 years together and me the wrong side of 50. It's very sad but at the same time, life goes on. I've learned it's better to be in no relationship than a shit relationship. I wish I'd left 15 years ago.

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