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52 replies

sofiacc · 06/03/2019 15:41

I am 20 weeks pregnant ( first time mum) and i live in Spain with my Spanish boyfriend.( I am from England) We have only been together for one year. I wont go into detail of our relationship over the year as i want advice over the most recent events.

At this time i was about 16 weeks pregnant. We had a stupid argument and i was angry , i threw a small glass of orange juice on the sofa and i threw my phone on the floor. He went absolutely mad and slapped me several times across my head and strangled me using his arm. Now my boyfriend is a big man, i am tiny. In the moment he had his arm around my neck i couldn't breath at all, nor did i have the ability to speak, or indicate to him that i couldn't breath. It was the scariest seconds of my life. He told me that the reason he did those things was because i made him angry by throwing the orange juice on the sofa, i made him angry.... of course i should not have done, that but i was so embarrassed because i had gone to kiss him to resolve the fight and he pushed me away, which made me fall backwards off the sofa. I couldn't believe what he did, i got up and immediately booked a flight back home to England. He started crying begging for my forgiveness and i forgave him....

Now since the beginning he has always had pictures on his phone or naked woman, videos, porn clips ect... these all being sent by a group chat he is in on whats app.. i hate it, especially as he tells me my boobs are disgusting and all the woman in the pics have perfect boobs. The reason mine are 'disgusting' to him is because they are so big they hang! I am 34DD so when i take off my bra, they are slightly saggy... they aren't perched perfectly... oh well... So anyway to see all those videos and pictures really hurts me.. he tells me in Spain its totally normal to have this stuff on your phone and all the men have it.. i am not used to that.. but what ever... he has respected it over time and i hadn't seen one on there in a while.. not that i sit and go through his phone, it would be if he is showing me another picture of something like that.

Anyway, the other day i did look at his phone ( something he does religiously to mine) i have to tell him my passwords, ect..i cant take it too the bathroom, it has to be on display at all times.. so they other day i picked up and looked at his phone and saw 2 pictures in his deleted folder of a woman in a thong.. i asked him where is this from ? He said, its from one of my group chats.. i said, ok, if that's so then let me see it in the group chat. He couldnt and still hasnt shown me..

So i was crying feeling so upset and he went off to work, the next day i asked him for proof where that pic had come from and he showed me, it had come off a website... it was apparently for stripper for an upcoming bacherlor party, i know about it , i am invited to the bacherlottle.. now the pic to me looked really dodgy so i asked him if i could see her profile... he REFUSED to show me, still hasn't... eventually he let me know the website, i went onto my computer which translated it to English, a website for prostitutes. Not a stripper but a prostitute. I asked him again and again and again to show me her profile so i could read her information he wont let me and still hasn't. He hasn't showed me the group chat , he wont show me her profile?? WTF is he hiding. .. He swears its for the bachelor party and even said in Spain it happens that a prostitute is arranged for the groom on his last night of 'freedom'

He keeps saying i am making a big deal out of nothing and im being so ridiculous. Hense why i am here... just need some perspective here..is this just pregnancy hormones making me feel so worked up over nothing. I am truly heart broken over this... Please dont say to me '' IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT WE THINK'' i am here because i need advice, i just need another human being to share with my their thoughts. I am not a victim, i too am not perfect.. i just need some opinions.

OP posts:
Littleraindrop15 · 06/03/2019 17:22

You say you are not a victim you could not be further from the truth. Get yourself back to the UK

ScarletBitch · 06/03/2019 17:29

Wow get your priority's right OP. The phone is not the issue, your violent dick of a partner. Leave him, get away and concentrate on your baby. He could of killed you.

Sparkybloke · 06/03/2019 17:43

I'm with everyone else. He sounds awful. Book a flight back asap and block all contact if possible.

18875hulu · 06/03/2019 17:44

As all PP have said, PLEASE LEAVE.
Your life is in danger, this isn't divided opinion, all PP have said you are not safe in one way or another.
Unfortunately, this situation IS going to get worse, and next time, he may very well kill you.
Book your flight ASAP, leave and go from there. Just get out.

minmooch · 06/03/2019 17:47

Leave him immediately. He strangled you? So you could neither breath nor speak? Next time he could kill you. Do not become a statistic.

Please get on a plane to the uk.

Do not put his name on the birth certificate.

Mixedupmummy · 06/03/2019 18:20

dv always escalates after children are born. get yourself out of there.

PositiveVibez · 06/03/2019 18:28

I'll give you some advice. Get back to England ASAP.

He is an evil cunt and will destroy you.

Don't tell him you're going either. Just do a flit.

NeatFreakMama · 06/03/2019 19:06

It's going to be harder to leave the longer you leave it and definitely when the baby is born. I agree with other posters you're not safe, consider going home. I stayed with an abusive Italian boyfriend who sounds a little like this guy and I know it's hard to leave but it'll be the bravest and best thing you do for your baby from the sounds of your post and his behaviour.

izekiah · 06/03/2019 19:26

This is where I honestly belibe Mumsnet has such a double standard sometimes.

all these pp calling him violent yet in your OP you talk bout throwing a glass and throwing your phone. That in itself is violent.

Clearly this relationship is a violent one for both of you.

it does baffle me how people decide to have a child with someone so early on in a relationship. Ur 20 weeks pregnant with a guy you’ve know for 1 year ! That’s why people date for a while so that they can get to know someone and find out that they are disgusting and emotionally abusive as ur boyfriend and easily leave.

Now you essentially attached to him for at least 18 years. Maybe he won’t want contact but or perhaps he will want to be involved. Domestic violence won’t stop him if he wants too as from what I’ve read it’s a two way situation.

Good luck Op and as previous posters have said leaving to a place with more support from family and friends is a good idea !

Bluestitch · 06/03/2019 20:50

all these pp calling him violent yet in your OP you talk bout throwing a glass and throwing your phone. That in itself is violent

Give over. OP threw something on the sofa and floor. Not great behaviour but not even remotely comparable to him hitting her repeatedly and strangling her. By the way did you realise that a man putting his hands round a woman's neck is one of the biggest predictors for murder? How dare you minimise such serious abuse by suggesting it's a two way street.

fc301 · 06/03/2019 21:40

FFS @izekiah what are you playing at?
How did you miss the bit where he choked her??...

Fedupofthisrubbish · 06/03/2019 21:50

Book your flights and leave before the baby comes. My sister decided to wait a while, she had the baby in the country of the abusive father's and now she is stuck. She needs his permission to take them away.

Just leave. Now. He is AWFUL.

Lemmeavebru · 06/03/2019 21:51

@izekiah
Seriously???
He hit her repeatedly over the head and tried to strangle her. You CANNOT equate that to throwing orange juice on the sofa and throwing a mobile phone on the floor.

OP please leave now. For yours and the baby's sake.

MumsyJ · 06/03/2019 22:11

@izekiah would you strangle someone if they threw an object on the floor or sofa without aiming it at you? WTF!

OP get packing. Only known each other for a year and this is happening? Leave before he kills you. He's abusive and controlling and you've described how disrespectful he is to you. What other signs do you need?

Please come back home!

MsDogLady · 06/03/2019 23:07

CHOKES AND HITS YOU

*Controls Your Life
*Cheats With Prostitutes
*Calls Your Body Disgusting
*Lies, Gaslights, Stonewalls, Minimizes

YOU AND YOUR BABY ARE IN GRAVE DANGER. He is a violent abuser. When he choked you, your baby could have been oxygen deprived. You both could have been killed. You both could be hurt/killed at any time when he resumes beating/choking you.

PROTECT YOUR BABY AND YOURSELF. GET AWAY NOW.

izekiah · 06/03/2019 23:12

I’m not saying he is not violent and OP doesn’t need to leave of course she does !!!

What I’m saying is that often people minimise things ; op might have easily thrown the drink at him it’s likely worse than op is stating.

It sounds like both people are violent towards each other !!! It’s a toxic situation that no baby should be brought into !!

Bluestitch · 06/03/2019 23:23

izekiah So a woman describes very shocking violence and abuse, and your response is to assume the OP must be lying about her own behaviour. What exactly is your motivation here? If you trawl MN looking men to defend maybe a porn addled user of prostitutes who verbally abuses and has now seriously assaulted the OP isn't the best candidate.

Canthearthroughmyglasses · 07/03/2019 03:26

My worry is that the OP has posted this on here, her partner looks through her phone, is she safe now? He will have seen the advice given.
Seeing the OP has failed to come back suggests to me he may have searched her phone and found this post. My abuser did and it didn’t go down well.

Hide your tracks OP when posting on here.
And OP, take the great advice on here and leave him. This is only going to get so much worse.

leonasa · 07/03/2019 03:43

Izekiah what??

And has everyone missed the part where she explained she did that because HE PUSHED HER OFF THE SOFA? And OP actually thinks her throwing her OJ and phone in response was bad, that is how bad the abuse has got.

I am seriously disturbed by your comments Izekiah, you actually are justifying horrific abuse here.

OP, please run, this man is horribly physically and emotionally abusive and even if he doesn't actually kill you, he will break you.

OnlineAlienator · 07/03/2019 03:48

The advice is: this dude is a clear cut, out-and-out, dangerous shit. You can do better i'm sure.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 07/03/2019 09:40

@sofiacc please come back.

Are you OK?

Are you safe?

We are worried about you.

Musti · 07/03/2019 09:50

Bloody hell. I'm Spanish and no, anything you describe isn't normal. He is sbusuce, dangerous, controlling and a cheat. Don't have the baby in Spain as you may end up being stuck there.

CoolJule43 · 07/03/2019 11:17

So he has slapped you more than once, strangled you so that you cannot breathe, demands your passwords, checks your phone and won't allow it out of his sight and you are on here asking for our opinions. He also has some sort of connection with prostitutes (probably uses their services).

This man is physically and mentally abusing you and you should remove yourself from the situation, report him to the police and come back to the UK to raise your child away from him. If he follows you to the UK the report him to the police here.

Have nothing more to do with him. Do not register your child as his. Do not let him near your DC when born.

He is dangerous and I hope you will be sensible and leave him permanently.

AgentJohnson · 07/03/2019 11:22

Why do you think so little of yourself?

CilantroChili · 07/03/2019 17:41

Leave. While you can.

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