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I cannot be the daughter that she wants

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Partidgeinpeartree · 19/02/2019 13:18

I´m currently in my 40s with great kids. Overall I am happy with my life. My parents live abroad in the (EU) country I grew up in. Every week my mum is making me feel like a ´bad´ daughter as I do not engage in the contact that she wants with me. She used to call her own mother every day and exchange small talk. My mum keeps contacting me by sms asking me for updates regularly. I´m sure that she would love for me to call and respond more often but I just can´t.
Somehow I cannot forget how it was growing up. My parents both have their traumas and my childhood seems like an endless procession of rows, drunkenness and making us kids/me as the only girl -feel guilty about one thing or the other. As long as I can remember, she would put everyone else ahead of us: her friends always seemed more important. Still now, when I have her on the phone, within seconds she is detailing the lives of others. For instance, i can tell her about one of my kids having a cold and while she sympathises, seconds later she is then off again on a story about how this or that friend has a grandchild that is seriously ill etc. etc. I´ll give some examples of the past and would love to hear whether I should just get over it or whether I should indeed hold a grudge (I do not enjoy holding a grudge, my kids love their grandma and I do want her to be happy).

  • My mum always used to make me feel so guilty. If we had not bought her something for mothers day/her birthday (and we wouldn´t as we had no money as kids) but instead made her a drawing or plucked some flowers she would have this reaction from which it was clear that she was very very disappointed. I now have my own kids and honestly I am much more happy with a nice drawing than I could be with something shop-bought. I think my mum was often angry with my dad for not ensuring that we got a proper gift, but as my dad did not care less, she took it out on us.
  • My mum never trusted me: if I received mail, she would open it. Books and agenda´s were checked. There was always this expectation that whatever I did it would involve boys or drugs. When I was 17, I was kicked out of the house because I went to visit my (future) university city with some friends and moved some of my stuff by myself instead of letting them do it. Looking back I feel that she was mostly angry at me becoming independent.
  • There was always the comparison: between me and my brother (one year older), between us and the kids of friends - and we would always be less good, less polite, less clever etc. I do blame them for ruining the relationship with my brother who must have heard a thousand times why he couldn´t study like me (I only heard this afterwards).
  • There were a lot of secrets in the house. There was secret drinking (my father did it openly, my mother would go to the storage room and come back smelling of alcohol), secret eating (she was always on a diet but kept buying snacks ´for us´), and more serious secrets regarding her past that were never shared. At one point, one of her friends got angry at us and snapped "you know what day it is, have mercy on your mum" - but we never knew as we hadn´t been told anything. I have never found the guts to ask what really was going on.
(sorry for the essay, thank you for bearing with me) Anyway, with my own kids I try to be equal, I try to listen to them. I try to spend most of my free time with them (I work FT), I don´t drink etc. Unfortunately I still discover a lot of things that I took over from her (the yelling, the passive aggressive behaviour- but then directed at my husband, the secret eating etc.). I´m aware of this and I am trying to change. I just cannot seem to forgive her and be as the daughter of her friends who do call their mums all the time. (I´m not speaking of my father here, because he has alzheimers and really lost the capacity to have conversations a long time ago). What can I do?
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MiceSqueakCatsMeow · 19/02/2019 13:25

The Stately Homes thread is really supportive. I found the book 'Toxic Parents ' by Dr Susan Forwood really helpful.
I went completely no contact with my abusive parents. You need to google 'low contact with abusive parents' to get information about how to do it and grey rock can also be helpful. When she starts with her crap just imagine a grey rock. I had to go no contact so I haven't tried these methods.

Onemansoapopera · 19/02/2019 13:25

I'm a strong believer that for 'normal' people ie not sociopaths or psychopaths, every action is a reflection/expression of either love or fear. Your mum sounds very much in the second camp (not that she doesn't love you, more very insecure/damaged). I don't know what the answer is. We seem to place a lot on the importance of understanding and emphathising with poor mental health, except for mothers, who get labelled narcissistic or abusive. I know you weren't doing that. I think you need to say to your mum that you love her and love hearing from her , but you're just not able to give as much time to it as she might.like and she'll have to accept that.

GreenTulips · 19/02/2019 13:33

I think she sees your actions as a bad reflection on her. She obviously competes with her friends and as you don’t go above and beyond her friends children you are a constant disappointment as she can’t engage and show off like her friends do. IYSWIM!

You are the adult and you need to switch gears - so the ‘that’s nice mum’ only answer questions she asks or defect them if you don’t want too.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 19/02/2019 13:50

Its not your fault your mother is like this and you did not make her that way. Her so called "friend" who spoke to you like that too never had to live with your parents; such flying monkeys should be ignored because they are only acting in their own self interest. Your mother was not a good parent to you when you were growing up and she has fundamentally not changed since that time.

Do read and post on the "well we took you to Stately Homes" thread on these pages and read "Toxic Parents" by Susan Forward as a starting point.

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