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He's left

10 replies

scot07 · 06/02/2019 17:52

Hi, I'm just looking for advice on this one and also to write it all down somewhere and stop it going round and round in my head.

Last July my husband moved out. For me it came out of the blue. I knew he'd been struggling with his mental health for a while, but I had too and so just tried to be as supportive as I could. We talked rather than argued and he went back to his mums, I was relieved as he'd mentioned some thoughts that could be suicidal and I wanted him to have somewhere to go that he felt safe. The most important thing for me was that the kids had their Dad. We'd been together for 12 years, married for 8 and have two kids age 3 and 6.

It was the summer holidays and I, quite understandably I think, got upset, angry and cried a lot although I tried to avoid doing this with the kids around. But we also managed a few days out together with the kids. I thought at the time that this was positive and a sign that we could work through this.

Fast forward 6 months to 2019 and he's not moved back. He sees the kids 5 days a week, and talks to them in a video call the other two. They stay at his mums with him one night a week, and he makes dinner for them after school at the house 2 nights a week. We've fallen into a routine of being not together. He sometimes stays the night sleeping on the couch if one of the kids is ill or last year when I had concussion (I fainted, probably due to stress) and he stayed over the Christmas holidays. I've gone from wanting him there to finding it a bit annoying.

I just don't know what to do next. Sometimes he says I make him angry. Apparently I have made him feel trapped by saying that we need his income in order to afford the house. He's also made passing comments about I'm lucky he's still contributing to the house (we have a joint mortgage and both work full time). Apparently I'm also "always ill" as though I might be at it, although I have been genuinely ill for much of the past few years (childbirth, post-natal depression, abnormal smear test requiring day surgery and lots of follow ups, infected gallbladder removed). I've come to the point where I don't think our marriage is salvagable; I'm tired of being understanding (especially when he is off out every weekend while I'm wondering if I can afford next week's food shop), I feel like I can't trust him to pay his way in the long term and I really need to start moving forward with my life. Everything is on pause.

So far I've only talked about me, but it's really affecting our kids too. It breaks my heart to talk to them about it and try to answer their questions in a neutral way. Our son is angry at his Dad and not sure how to process it. Our daughter is having seperation anxiety and nightmares.

So, if you have been through this before, what can you suggest? Do I go to a solicitor and if so what sorts of things have you done/got put in place in this position? How can I help my kids? How do I financially protect myself, keeping in mind that I need his income and we have some debt between us. Thank you.

OP posts:
bigchris · 06/02/2019 18:06

To be honest to me it sounds like it's time to make things official

He can't stay over in your house, arrangements need to be formalised

Zerrin13 · 06/02/2019 18:14

He obviously felt trapped by family life so he decided to leave. He now says he feels trapped that he still has to contribute to the mortgage on your joint family home. He also goes out every weekend socialising. He doesn't sound suicidal to me.
He sounds as if he is enjoying not being in a marriage anymore and being a part time visiting dad. He now would like to extend that freedom to not being financially responsible for housing his wife and children.. OP he is a selfish dickhead who thinks it's ok to abandon his wife and leave his little children while he goes home to live with his Mum again. If you have decided to go something similar you would be called the scumbsg of the earth. He's been gone for 6 months and isn't making any attempt to return. I suggest you set the wheels in motion and see a solicitor. You need to involve the CSA as it isn't his decision what he does and doesn't pay. Start thinking along the lines of moving on and divorcing him. He deserve any of you.

Zerrin13 · 06/02/2019 18:16

I meant he doesn't deserve any of you and you don't deserve this.

Lozzerbmc · 06/02/2019 18:57

I agree you are in limbo so i would start to make plans to separate properly and get legal advice re your financial position

Lozzerbmc · 06/02/2019 18:58

You deserve some understanding from him!

category12 · 06/02/2019 19:04

Currently he's got it pretty cushy, really. I'd stop him staying over any more and start divorce proceedings. Get legal advice about the house etc.

WinterSunglasses · 06/02/2019 19:08

Talk to a solicitor about how a new place for each of you to live ought to be financed. You'll need more since you have the kids, and he will need to take them elsewhere to cook them dinner, not do contact at yours. As pp said he's had it easy till now.

TwinkleMerrick · 06/02/2019 19:23

I think people on here are quick to judge. If you feel the relationship is over then when the time is right make it official. That way you can put a parental plan in place which you both agree on. It's fantastic he helps out with the kids so much, mine sees my DD once a week for an hour Angry pretty pointless really but it's a start. He only left me in December and DD is only 8 months old, so I'm hoping as things settle he will se her more often. But getting a parental plan in place has really helped me. We agreed on a routine and how much he will pay me on a weekly basis. If you go to the citizens advice page they have lots of links to websites who can advise you in this. Also gingerbread have lots of good resources. Have you checked what benefits your entitled too now your a single parent family? You could get tax relief or universal credit? Also calculate how much he should be paying you, use the child maintenance service page for guidance. It's not about him paying for the house, he should be contributing financially a proportion of his wage to the upbringing of his children. If his name is on the mortgage that is a separate matter because once the house is sold he could get some of that money back. I recommend you try and schedule some time for yourself. He seems happy to have the kids in a regular basis then plan some cheap nice things for yourself, I do home spa nights.....face mask £1, can of gin and tonic £2, foot soak £1, chocs £1, Netflix....it's bliss! Good luck xx

category12 · 06/02/2019 19:49

I just think that amount of contact and him hanging around so much sounds smothering. Got to shit or get off the pot.

Honeyroar · 06/02/2019 19:51

You sound like you’ve been a saint tip toeing around him. He’s had plenty of time to decide what he wants. Times up. You can’t move on if you’re in limbo like that. Take the reins. Get a solicitor, work out a solid way forward and some definition for the children.

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